Nebido discussions

[DanMan250]

I think this test result says nothing about how Nebido works for us.
There is a reason for us having a second shot after 6 weeks.
And as we have said before in this thread, it takes months for it to get to the level where we feel good from it.

And if someone is going to rule it out based on a test result 4 weeks after the first shot, well then they have a bigger problem than low test levels.

I also found that prior to my booster shot that I was not feeling great, and used Testogel on those days when I was feeling low.
Also just before my third shot I was certain I had low levels, nothing close to how low I was when I started but still.

It gets more and more consistent and now after my 5th. shot I can tell you that I felt no different before and after the shot. I am just cruising on a level plain right now.

I am on a 9 week interval.

Good for you bro. I would be very interested to see your blood work now that you are stable. If you have it done it would be nice if you could post the results here.

[BigIce]

Good for you bro. I would be very interested to see your blood work now that you are stable. If you have it done it would be nice if you could post the results here.

I will have my first BW done at week 9 or so and I shall post what ever results I can get. Usually the doctor does not give me a copy of them.

[DanMan250]

You have every right to request a printed copy of your results for your own records since they are your blood test results!
I would like to see what your sensitive estradiol levels are as well as total test and free test.

[BigIce]

I would like to say that I may have one side affect now. My face, hands and upper arm have a slight red color, it looks like I spent some time in the sun but haven´t.

Think my RBC might be high. Maybe I´ll call for a check tomorrow.

It´s just that I don´t have any of the symptoms I know are caused by high RBC

My blood pressure is usually spot on but better check that too.

Any of you that have been on Nebido for more then a year need to give blood?

[jimmy79]

I have had 10 shots of Nebido spaced 9 weeks apart. (Loading phase was 6 weeks) The first 6 months I always woke up with the "pins and needles" feeling in my hands and fore-arms. The doctor said this is because of the boosted growth hormone my body was now producing.

The injection pain gets less and less after each shot and the last 3 shots I only had pain for a few minutes where my first ever shot lasted 3 days! The nurses always take around 1 minute to inject. I'm allowed to self inject but the nurses are sooo cute I'd rather let them do their job!

I'm using Ovidrel (synthetic LH & FSH combined) ED.
I'm also using 0.12mg Anastrozole ED.
Baby 162mg aspirin ED.

2000IU Vitamin D3 ED.
10,000IU Vitamin A ED.
Multi-mineral ED.
50mg 7-keto-DHEA ED.
1000mg Fish-Oil cap ED.

The only real side-effects I have experienced is enhanced intelligence, but its something I can learn to live with ;-)

/J

[DanMan250]

I have had 10 shots of Nebido spaced 9 weeks apart. (Loading phase was 6 weeks) The first 6 months I always woke up with the "pins and needles" feeling in my hands and fore-arms. The doctor said this is because of the boosted growth hormone my body was now producing.

The injection pain gets less and less after each shot and the last 3 shots I only had pain for a few minutes where my first ever shot lasted 3 days! The nurses always take around 1 minute to inject. I'm allowed to self inject but the nurses are sooo cute I'd rather let them do their job!

I'm using Ovidrel (synthetic LH & FSH combined) ED.
I'm also using 0.12mg Anastrozole ED.
Baby 162mg aspirin ED.

2000IU Vitamin D3 ED.
10,000IU Vitamin A ED.
Multi-mineral ED.
50mg 7-keto-DHEA ED.
1000mg Fish-Oil cap ED.

The only real side-effects I have experienced is enhanced intelligence, but its something I can learn to live with ;-)

/J

That's good to know. I don't think taking 10,000iu of vitamin A is too smart though!

[Bonaparte]

I'm pinning 2ml (500mg) monthly. My first month I did 2ml in each glute to load. I'm only 2 months in, but everything seems fine so far since coming off a TNE blast

[Renholder]

Hey Jimmy,

Thanks for sharing. Very interesting to hear about the "pins and needles" in your forearms, since I have the exact same thing! My sister had some neurological problems in her left hand with the same symptoms, so I assumed it could be something in the family, but it`s good to know that it`s probably a normal side-effect.

How did you arrive at your current protocol?

Why Ovidrel instead of HCG ? Any particular reason? I have considered getting Ovidrel myself, since it can be stored at room temperature if I`m not mistaken. HCG is very impractical when traveling. What are your dosage, btw?

Most people on Nebido does not seem to use an AI, so it`s interesting that you use one. I`m wondering if I need it myself, although my latest test showed normal E2, provided I can actually trust the test (not sensitive).

Thanks in advance for sharing.

Renholder

I have had 10 shots of Nebido spaced 9 weeks apart. (Loading phase was 6 weeks) The first 6 months I always woke up with the "pins and needles" feeling in my hands and fore-arms. The doctor said this is because of the boosted growth hormone my body was now producing.

The injection pain gets less and less after each shot and the last 3 shots I only had pain for a few minutes where my first ever shot lasted 3 days! The nurses always take around 1 minute to inject. I'm allowed to self inject but the nurses are sooo cute I'd rather let them do their job!

I'm using Ovidrel (synthetic LH & FSH combined) ED.
I'm also using 0.12mg Anastrozole ED.
Baby 162mg aspirin ED.

2000IU Vitamin D3 ED.
10,000IU Vitamin A ED.
Multi-mineral ED.
50mg 7-keto-DHEA ED.
1000mg Fish-Oil cap ED.

The only real side-effects I have experienced is enhanced intelligence, but its something I can learn to live with ;-)

[BigIce]

Why Ovidrel instead of HCG ? Any particular reason? I have considered getting Ovidrel myself, since it can be stored at room temperature if I`m not mistaken. HCG is very impractical when traveling. What are your dosage, btw?


Renholder

http://www.fertilitylifelines.com/re...ledsyringe.jsp

"Ovidrel® PreFilled Syringe should be stored refrigerated (2 – 7°C / 36 – 46°F) "

[Pac Man]

I've been contemplating running nebido for years now. I think I may go ahead and take the plunge, maybe run the loading phase in conjunction with a cycle.
It's fairly easy to make, no way I would ever pay 400$ per inj for anything. I'm kind of surprised I haven't seen it much in the UGL market, probably due to lack of demand.
I've seen some guys run 4/8/10 and 12 week intervals. Even 1 shot a month would be better than shooting twice a week.

[jimmy79]

The Ovidrel I use come as powder in a vial. Once I've mixed it with water I store it in the fridge but the pamphlet says you can store it at room temperature.
The pamphlet says 4000iu of Ovidrel is equivalent to 10,000iu of HCG .

[Renholder]

The Ovidrel I use come as powder in a vial. Once I've mixed it with water I store it in the fridge but the pamphlet says you can store it at room temperature.
The pamphlet says 4000iu of Ovidrel is equivalent to 10,000iu of HCG.

Thanks. That`s different from what BicIce linked to though.

When did you add an AI? Does it make a big difference for you? I read some of your older posts and had the impression you did not use an AI?

Do you notice a big difference from using HCG ?

[jimmy79]

When I added the HCG I started getting acne. I tried everything but the only thing that really worked was using an AI.

I could probably lengthen the period between nebido shots to like 12 weeks instead of 9 and lower my HCG dose by 1/2 and get away not using an AI. But why bother? :-)

Yes, there is a big difference when using HCG. Level of well being goes up. Big brass balls. More ejaculate!

After I got my acne cleared and were running good for a while I added 10mg of Nandrolone ED subq. (Sorry, forgot to mention that in my first reply)

The nandrolone helped a lot in boosting my immune system and also my level of well being went up.

/J

[BigIce]

When I added the HCG I started getting acne. I tried everything but the only thing that really worked was using an AI.

I could probably lengthen the period between nebido shots to like 12 weeks instead of 9 and lower my HCG dose by 1/2 and get away not using an AI. But why bother? :-)

Yes, there is a big difference when using HCG. Level of well being goes up. Big brass balls. More ejaculate!

After I got my acne cleared and were running good for a while I added 10mg of Nandrolone ED subq. (Sorry, forgot to mention that in my first reply)

The nandrolone helped a lot in boosting my immune system and also my level of well being went up.

/J

What form of Nandrolone are you using? Just the good old Deca or?

And what needle size are you using for subq?

[Gringo1]

Hi -- New Guy here-- 49 yo

I have been on Nebido for 4 cycles-- including booster. (I was prescribed after tests showed low t)

I feel it seems to peter out around 4 weeks. (have not checked my levels). I can get it over the counter ($85) so I have been doing a new course every 4 weeks. I will go be having tests and seeing a Endro soon.

I was thinking I might be having an estrogen problem. What anti-estrogen med should I try? what dosage? how long?

Thanks In Advance

[BigIce]

Hi -- New Guy here-- 49 yo

I have been on Nebido for 4 cycles-- including booster. (I was prescribed after tests showed low t)

I feel it seems to peter out around 4 weeks. (have not checked my levels). I can get it over the counter ($85) so I have been doing a new course every 4 weeks. I will go be having tests and seeing a Endro soon.

I was thinking I might be having an estrogen problem. What anti-estrogen med should I try? what dosage? how long?

Thanks In Advance

Are you using 1000 mg. every 4 weeks ?

Thats crazy.

It takes time for it to build up and start covering the 8-12 weeks.

It would not surprise my if you did have some estro sides at that dosage.

Get your self a doctor and have some bw done

[dec11]

my doc has the bloody stuff injected within 10secs, and it fookin hurts to sit down for a day!!!

she originally let me take it away and inject myself but received a letter from the endo stating it must be done under control in the practice, so now shes gone all red tape on me. apart from that, im getting on well with it

[pugster]

i take nebido at 8 week intervals and am doing well with it (no a.i or hcg ) , they dont let me inject myself either and i get it done at the practice (the first injection gave me some pip but after that no problems (and they inject fast , tho she does run the vial under hot water for a few mins to thin it out first) , i found pip went altogether if i walked back after the shot (a few miles) , i guess it helps 'work it round'.

[dec11]

i take nebido at 8 week intervals and am doing well with it (no a.i or hcg) , they dont let me inject myself either and i get it done at the practice (the first injection gave me some pip but after that no problems (and they inject fast , tho she does run the vial under hot water for a few mins to thin it out first) , i found pip went altogether if i walked back after the shot (a few miles) , i guess it helps 'work it round'.

jez, how'd you manage to get 8wk intervals?!

[pugster]

jez, how'd you manage to get 8wk intervals?!

simply told my endo i felt as rough as a dogs arse after about 8 weeks (which i did) and he told me to change from 12 to 8 week intervals , nebido seems to work alot better for some than others , 7 weeks after my 4th shot my test lvls were at 11 n/mol , i feel better than before i started TRT and my 'protocol' is still being worked on (due to nebidos long life+ NHS timescales , getting adjustments takes forever as GP's dont want to get involved with messing with a consultants workups) , tho i guess you are in the UK aswell - and if using the NHS already know this -its a long and slow process here but its free.

[Renholder]

To all the "new" guys in this thread. Where are you injecting?

I always injected in the quads, but am considering the glutes next time which is what the producer states as the proper injection site.

[pugster]

my injections have always been in the glutes , i just rotate from one to the other

[Renholder]

my injections have always been in the glutes , i just rotate from one to the other

Do you self-inject?

Self-injecting in the glute just seem so hard, especially considering the large amount (which again is the argument for why one should use the glute) one is injecting.

[pugster]

Do you self-inject?

Self-injecting in the glute just seem so hard, especially considering the large amount (which again is the argument for why one should use the glute) one is injecting.

sorry i should have mentioned , no i dont self inject (ive never injected anything, inc AAS) , the nurse at my local practice does them i just tell her which 'cheek' we are doing this time , your local GP's surgery should be able to do this for you no problem if you are on script for the nebido , tbh tho i do get the idea of what you mean by being awkward - i 'd probably end up making a mess of it. if the GP is not an option maybe get your partner to do it for you?

[BigIce]

I have been getting glute injc at the local hospital for the past year or so. But since some nurses do a poor job of it, like injecting way to fast I just had my GF do it last time. And she did a better job of them most nurses did.

[Renholder]

Thanks, guys.

Do you think there would be an issue with the actual administration of the Nebido if injecting in the quads?

I will self-inject today and the quads just are so convenient. I also have a little more fat on my glutes, not much, but enough that I fear I may not getting deep enough.