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    What does crashing feel like?

    Is it possible to crash while on TRT?

    Been on TRT for almost 6 months Test E 250mg week/tuesdays
    Also I been doing Anastrozole .25mg EOD (Been slowing lowing it from 1mg 2xweek)

    I was feeling great up to last week when i started taking Hcg 500iu 3xweek MWF

    I'm not sure if it's just my body adjusting to the Hcg and the restart of my HPTA from being shut down?
    I remember feeling like this when i first started TRT untill I got my test dosage up.

    Now i'm feeling really tired all day almost like I took benadryl.

    - other factors could be... All last week I had to wake up at 4am and I still havn't gotten back to a normal sleep pattern.
    - Outside stress.. have a child custody case comming up and just got summins for jury duty right when i was planning to go on
    a worktrip.

    Any advise would be great...


    Maybe I just need to stick it out another week and see if i get better.

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    Also I'm down about 5lbs since starting the Hcg

    Does this stuff make you lose weight?

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    I've never heard of a man crashing while on a proper TRT protocol...in fact it's the opposite.

    Many men state they have a great sense of well being, even boarding on euphoric, when they first start up on HCG ...I know it happened to me.

    Most likely your outside stress is playing hard on you right now assuming that your panels are in a good place...especially E2 and cortisol...and the later is the big one here given your chile custody hearing.

    Last BW was when?

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    Crashing only occurs when blood serrum levels drop. If you are on a legit TRT protocol, and keeping up with injections, you are not crashing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TraceMYD View Post
    Is it possible to crash while on TRT?

    Been on TRT for almost 6 months Test E 250mg week/tuesdays
    Also I been doing Anastrozole .25mg EOD (Been slowing lowing it from 1mg 2xweek)

    I was feeling great up to last week when i started taking Hcg 500iu 3xweek MWF

    I'm not sure if it's just my body adjusting to the Hcg and the restart of my HPTA from being shut down?
    I remember feeling like this when i first started TRT untill I got my test dosage up.

    Now i'm feeling really tired all day almost like I took benadryl.

    - other factors could be... All last week I had to wake up at 4am and I still havn't gotten back to a normal sleep pattern.
    - Outside stress.. have a child custody case comming up and just got summins for jury duty right when i was planning to go on
    a worktrip.

    Any advise would be great...


    Maybe I just need to stick it out another week and see if i get better.
    Not sure where you're getting your information, but your HPTA isn't doing any restart. If you want to verify that just go run a LH/FSH lab.

    I presume you're still running your Test E?

    If I had to speculate anything, I'd say you're running too much, especially now that HCG is in the mix. That HCG amount is high, combined with an already high dosage of Test E. I had to drop my Test Cyp by 40% to equal the same test serum levels when I started HCG, and my protocol of HCG consists of 250iu x 3/wk. I also split up my 120mg of cyp with 2x week, which reduces the spikes and appears to keep E2 more stable.

    What you need is lab work. Get a complete set, review it with your physician, and please post it up for comments from the guys. Stress could be factoring in as you indicated. Again, full panels from the CBC's, lipids, metabolic, hormones (Cortisol, test-free/total, TSH, RT3, T4, E2, DHEA, SHBG, etc) Vitamin D, B12, and if you want to see how suppressed your HPTA is run the LH/FSH. Unless you have a pituitary condition, it's going to be nada.
    Last edited by Vettester; 07-31-2012 at 07:35 PM.

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    Vette - He just started his HCG protocol last week so elevated serum levels are probably less likely than it is the custody case...just saying my friend

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    Thanks for the comments..

    My last blood work was in April, I didn't get a chance to actually make in to his office but he reviewed it with me over the phone.

    The only thing that was high was my estradiol (before TRT it was 20pg/ml) which jumped up to 60pg/ml
    He put me on an ai and got that under control.

    My next scheduled blood work will probably be in Sept. My doc wants to see how I react to the Hcg before adjusting anything.

    I'll also get copies of all my old bloodwork for review here too!

    Yeah, Custody case is stressfull.. I recently got rewarded 50/50 custody of my child(WIN)... now they are trying to determine the deduction in child support.. but because I own my own business..it's like getting your whole life audited. Crazy stuff.

    I have to go to court tomorrow for a pre trial.. wish me luck!


    Thanks again.. I'm so happy i found this place.. It's great how helpful everyone is.. and actually be able to communicate with people who are on TRT for health reasons and not to just to be legally be on steroids .

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    Vette - He just started his HCG protocol last week so elevated serum levels are probably less likely than it is the custody case...just saying my friend
    Yeah, looking a little closer I see where it was just recently started.

    Even with that though, I got to think that's an awful lot of compound for a continuous protocol.

    Hopefully we'll get some labs to comment further.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vettester View Post
    Yeah, looking a little closer I see where it was just recently started.

    Even with that though, I got to think that's an awful lot of compound for a continuous protocol.

    Hopefully we'll get some labs to comment further.
    I expect he will do some adjusting after my next BW... I trust him.. he's gotten me this far.

    He has me call his cell and text him whenever I need..but just thought I would get
    some more opinions before it came to that in case it's just a false alarm.. ya know?

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    Its well worth noting that some people simply feel worse on HCG . Certainly not unheard of at all.

    Nonetheless, you've got some serious life stressors going on right now that could make anyone feel crappy. TRT is helpful, but it doesn't make you immune to life!

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