Cypionate question

[mike954]

Ok so got picked up cyp 10ml 200mg dr said 1cc every other week!!! What is this shit I think I'm gonna do 1/4 cc 2x a week till my next blood test then when I get refills go to 1/2 cc 2x a week

[mike954]

Anyone ????

[Times Roman]

You are right. Your doctor is wrong. About the frequency. But the total dose of 1ml over a two week period should remain unchanged, regardless how you break it up. I would not double your trt dose. with trt, truly, less is more. stay at the 100mg/week level if that is what your doc prescribed. Your blood tests should determine your dose. if your blood tests suggest that you are still not in the upper 1/3 of the range, then some slight increases may be called for.

Don't make the mistake of thinking that the closer you get to a cycle dose the better off you will be. In fact, the opposite is true.

[mike954]

Awsome thanks so much I'll keep it at 1/4 twice a week oh and down the road can I cycle on top of it ?

[redhawk01]

some guys on trt will blast and cruise. you want to get your protocol dialed in first though.

[mike954]

some guys on trt will blast and cruise. you want to get your protocol dialed in first though.

Huh ?

[JohnnyVegas]

Agree with everything above. Break you dose down to 2x a week and get everything stable before thinking about cycling.

[mike954]

Agree with everything above. Break you dose down to 2x a week and get everything stable before thinking about cycling.

10-4

[kelkel]

You are right. Your doctor is wrong. About the frequency. But the total dose of 1ml over a two week period should remain unchanged, regardless how you break it up. I would not double your trt dose. with trt, truly, less is more. stay at the 100mg/week level if that is what your doc prescribed. Your blood tests should determine your dose. if your blood tests suggest that you are still not in the upper 1/3 of the range, then some slight increases may be called for.

Don't make the mistake of thinking that the closer you get to a cycle dose the better off you will be. In fact, the opposite is true.

Exactly this ^^^^

[Pale1]

You are right. Your doctor is wrong. About the frequency. But the total dose of 1ml over a two week period should remain unchanged, regardless how you break it up. I would not double your trt dose. with trt, truly, less is more. stay at the 100mg/week level if that is what your doc prescribed. Your blood tests should determine your dose. if your blood tests suggest that you are still not in the upper 1/3 of the range, then some slight increases may be called for.

Don't make the mistake of thinking that the closer you get to a cycle dose the better off you will be. In fact, the opposite is true.

Less is more. I've read this several times on here. I am not doubting you one bit, but just curious to hear that explained in just a tad more detail. Does running a heavier dose than required cause a dependance for that dose or something?

BTW, I was prescribed a 400 mg injection every other week myself, but taking the advice of a few here, I've been making 100 mg injections 1x/ week, along with 250 iu's hcg twice a week, & I feel like a teenager. Will get blood checked soon, but I'm expecting high/normal levels based off of how I feel.

[kelkel]

Just the more you can optimize your health and well being while using less medication is just the sensible thing to do. There is always more of a chance for side effects when more of an exogenous substance is used. Any substance. Problems with blood pressure, hemoglobin, hematocrit, red blood cells, etc. Dose dependance with higher amounts, not really but obviously some people are always going to be of the "more is better" mindset and may have trouble scaling it back.

That's a smart move on your part Pale. Let us know how your levels come back with your next BW please. On top of that you're stocking up on extra T!

[Pale1]

Just the more you can optimize your health and well being while using less medication is just the sensible thing to do. There is always more of a chance for side effects when more of an exogenous substance is used. Any substance. Problems with blood pressure, hemoglobin, hematocrit, red blood cells, etc. Dose dependance with higher amounts, not really but obviously some people are always going to be of the "more is better" mindset and may have trouble scaling it back.

That's a smart move on your part Pale. Let us know how your levels come back with your next BW please. On top of that you're stocking up on extra T!

Thanks Kelkel. It was you & Bass that advised me on this. & yes, the extra cyp is piling up quick

[Times Roman]

Just the more you can optimize your health and well being while using less medication is just the sensible thing to do. There is always more of a chance for side effects when more of an exogenous substance is used. Any substance. Problems with blood pressure, hemoglobin, hematocrit, red blood cells, etc. Dose dependance with higher amounts, not really but obviously some people are always going to be of the "more is better" mindset and may have trouble scaling it back.

That's a smart move on your part Pale. Let us know how your levels come back with your next BW please. On top of that you're stocking up on extra T!

agree. when on trt, your dose should be measured/compared to your post dose test blood levels, and be in the upper 1/3 of the range. This is more than just normal. It is called optimal. However, the more test you take, the greater the risk of sides, such as high blood pressure, RBC too high, and elevated E levels. Therefore, you want to minimize this risk to the greatest extent possible. You do this by keeping your dose as low as possible, yet remain in the upper 1/3 of the range. Unlike cycling, TRT is for life, so even having a moderately elevated BP can have serious consequences over a ten, twenty or even a thirty year time span. One must think in the very long term when on trt. Every year, you should have new blood panels taken, and certain adjustments made. For example, I was on 100mg test c / week. However, since my blood levels put my t level higher than the upper end of the range, I have backed down my dose to only 80mg/week. Next year, i will check it again and make another adjustment, if it is warranted.

Good luck!

[mike954]

agree. when on trt, your dose should be measured/compared to your post dose test blood levels, and be in the upper 1/3 of the range. This is more than just normal. It is called optimal. However, the more test you take, the greater the risk of sides, such as high blood pressure, RBC too high, and elevated E levels. Therefore, you want to minimize this risk to the greatest extent possible. You do this by keeping your dose as low as possible, yet remain in the upper 1/3 of the range. Unlike cycling, TRT is for life, so even having a moderately elevated BP can have serious consequences over a ten, twenty or even a thirty year time span. One must think in the very long term when on trt. Every year, you should have new blood panels taken, and certain adjustments made. For example, I was on 100mg test c / week. However, since my blood levels put my t level higher than the upper end of the range, I have backed down my dose to only 80mg/week. Next year, i will check it again and make another adjustment, if it is warranted.

Good luck!

Thank you sir , good info is it ok once I get leveled out and bw redone can I use the extra and for a short cycle dose high ?

[Hackamaniac]

agree. when on trt, your dose should be measured/compared to your post dose test blood levels, and be in the upper 1/3 of the range. This is more than just normal. It is called optimal. However, the more test you take, the greater the risk of sides, such as high blood pressure, RBC too high, and elevated E levels. Therefore, you want to minimize this risk to the greatest extent possible. You do this by keeping your dose as low as possible, yet remain in the upper 1/3 of the range. Unlike cycling, TRT is for life, so even having a moderately elevated BP can have serious consequences over a ten, twenty or even a thirty year time span. One must think in the very long term when on trt. Every year, you should have new blood panels taken, and certain adjustments made. For example, I was on 100mg test c / week. However, since my blood levels put my t level higher than the upper end of the range, I have backed down my dose to only 80mg/week. Next year, i will check it again and make another adjustment, if it is warranted.

Good luck!

Were you doing 100mg Im and getting that high of levels???

[kelkel]

Of course you can Mike. Just be sure you know exactly what your doing and what you need to accomplish it. It's very important to get dialed in with your TRT first before you move on to bigger things, so to speak. You can make amazing gains just with TRT, hard training and a good diet.

[Times Roman]

Thank you sir , good info is it ok once I get leveled out and bw redone can I use the extra and for a short cycle dose high ?

there are many on here that are on trt ("cruise") that also cycle ("blast") from time to time.

I'll state the obvious just for tickles and farts, that there is no need, and do not run a PCT, since you are on TRT.

I would suggest standard cycle protocols though, such as dose/duration.

A fairly standard cycle is 500mg/week for 12 weeks. You can cut that back by a week or two with cyp, but i wouldnt cut it lower than 10 weeks, since it is going to take at least 4 for the increased dose of the Cyp to kick in.

[mike954]

I have sust 400 what If down the road I fun my 100 of cyp and 400 sust 10 weeks then back to just 100mg cyp

[MRNJ1992]

1cc every other week is a waste. you will peak after a week-bi weekly is the answer. probably 80 mgs per hit preferably with hcg .

[Fred40]

I was actually well above range on the day of my injection with the blood test being done BEFORE my injection.

That was with 100mg 1x/week.

I'm now at .75mg/week.