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    bbray is offline New Member
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    Hey guys, as I mentioned in a previous post I am going to Ukraine for 1 year. It turns out that there are a lot of misconceptions regarding getting steroids in Ukraine. First, you do need a prescription. Second, even with a script there is one, and only one type of steroid you can get and it's Farmak Testosterone Propianate. I've verified this by having my mother in law who lives there ask her good friend who is a doc and also call every pharmacy she could from the west to east borders.

    That said, my mother in laws friend wrote me a script for the propionate . It comes in 50mg of test propionate in a 1 mL ampule. So apparently it's a one shot deal. You somehow break the top of the ampule to get to the medication. My wife is a nurse and said that she uses a special needle with some type of filter to get to the medication because of small glass pieces, but the Ukrainians don't have anything like that...this makes me nervous, but someone on forums said it's fine.

    Finally, my question(sorry for the rant, just thought was interesting stuff). I currently take 160mg test cypionate per week. I'm assuming that the propionate should convert right over mg for mg. I've read that propianate has a very short half life. So am I correct that it converts right over i.e. 50mg prop=50mg cyp? Also, if it does then does taking the propionate every 3rd day sound good at the full 50mg a pop or should I plan on taking it 3xwk?(I'm okay with dropping to 100mg per week if it keeps the shots down to twice every 6 days).

    Thanks in advance.
    Oh FYI, the test costs $1 per ampule so it's cheap stuff and comes in 5 ampule boxes.

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    Sorry, just read that I will get more testosterone per mg with the propionate . But it also said that after day 2 the levels begin to decline sharply, just how sharply I would like to know. If say, one shot of 50mg gives 83mg of test(according to the main page on test of this site) on Monday, then perhaps that might put me around 700-800 levels of free test, so if it declines to only 500 by Thursday, then I could shoot again on Thursday, that wouldnt be so bad would it?

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    You probably would want to do propionate every other day or even every day. If you notice some difference then it might be worth it, but otherwise your goal is a stable blood level as it is with enanthate or cypionate . You'll definitely get some slight increased rise and fall from the propionate though.

    I have no data on hand, but I believe the half life is like 1-2 days.

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    Please do keep us updated on how this goes. I don't know why but propionate is gaining popularity over the last month.

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    Shoot the prop once every second day. You could shoot daily but not with cracking open those amps...that be a pain to use half. Go 3 amps per week about. This will lead you above what you were shooting before but not by that much and with less of a pain/hassle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bbray
    Hey guys, as I mentioned in a previous post I am going to Ukraine for 1 year. It turns out that there are a lot of misconceptions regarding getting steroids in Ukraine. First, you do need a prescription. Second, even with a script there is one, and only one type of steroid you can get and it's Farmak Testosterone Propianate. I've verified this by having my mother in law who lives there ask her good friend who is a doc and also call every pharmacy she could from the west to east borders.

    That said, my mother in laws friend wrote me a script for the propionate . It comes in 50mg of test propionate in a 1 mL ampule. So apparently it's a one shot deal. You somehow break the top of the ampule to get to the medication. My wife is a nurse and said that she uses a special needle with some type of filter to get to the medication because of small glass pieces, but the Ukrainians don't have anything like that...this makes me nervous, but someone on forums said it's fine.

    Finally, my question(sorry for the rant, just thought was interesting stuff). I currently take 160mg test cypionate per week. I'm assuming that the propionate should convert right over mg for mg. I've read that propianate has a very short half life. So am I correct that it converts right over i.e. 50mg prop=50mg cyp? Also, if it does then does taking the propionate every 3rd day sound good at the full 50mg a pop or should I plan on taking it 3xwk?(I'm okay with dropping to 100mg per week if it keeps the shots down to twice every 6 days).

    Thanks in advance.
    Oh FYI, the test costs $1 per ampule so it's cheap stuff and comes in 5 ampule boxes.
    I never had anything special to open amps. Bic pen top over the top of amp and hold the amp in some folded up paper towel to give ur something to hold. Snap quick and font hesitate. Now I have no idea if they sell Bic pens in Ukraine.

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