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    jwh7699 is offline Member
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    Follow up Blood Work

    I receive Test Cyp 2 x a Month 200mg.

    Started Taking Orally: 7/23/2012 Started Dhea 25mg 2 x day
    7-keto dhea 100mg 2 x day

    Started Taking Orally: 8/3/2012 Pregnonolone 100mg at Breakfast


    Blood Work: 8/24/12 Non-Fasting 11 days after T injection, 3 days before next injection.

    DHEA-Sulfate 850.8 High ug/dl 88.9 - 427.0 Range

    Estradiol, Sensitive 30 pg/ml 3 - 70 Range

    Pregnenolone, MS 66 ng/dl Adults: <151 Range


    May/2012 Fasting 7 days after 200mg T injection.

    445 T Level
    13.5 Free T
    20.6 Prolactin (High)


    Thoughts? Thanks!!!
    Last edited by jwh7699; 08-30-2012 at 06:08 PM.

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    Are you able to increase injection frequency to more often than twice a month? Like every week or twice a week?

    Prolactin is concerning as I'm sure you're aware since you bolded it. Someone more experienced should chime in on that.

    J/W but why did you go from no DHEA supplementation whatsoever straight to twice a day oral DHEA PLUS twice a day transdermal at a high dose?

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    Can't change my frequency of T injections at this time. I get my injections from the VA Health Care System and it was pulling teeth to get twice monthly.

    I don't take DHEA transdermally at all. I only take 25mg of DHEA twice a day orally and 100mg of 7-Keto DHEA twice a day orally.

    I was told DHEA 25 mg 2x day will help back fill hormone channels.

    The 7-Keto DHEA is to help speed up my metabolism and produce weight loss. I take it orally.

    http://www.webmd.com/vitamins-supple...me=7-KETO-DHEA


    "7-keto-DHEA is a by-product of dehydroepiandrosterone (DHEA), a chemical that is formed in the body. DHEA is a "parent hormone" produced by glands near the kidneys. But unlike DHEA, 7-keto-DHEA is not converted to steroid hormones such as androgen and estrogen. Taking 7-keto-DHEA by mouth or applying it to the skin does not increase the level of steroid hormones in the blood.

    People take 7-keto-DHEA to speed up the metabolism and heat production to promote weight loss. 7-keto-DHEA is also used to improve lean body mass and build muscle, increase the activity of the thyroid gland, boost the immune system, enhance memory, and slow aging."

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    twice a month is far worse than not being on TRT, i suggest you look for another doc if you want to experience the benefits of proper TRT. what is your complete protocol, any AI's, hCG ?

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    ^^^^Exactly; better to not be on it at all and why he's in the low 400's 11 days out.

    Bet his E2 is elevated to boot.

    Putting his body through hell...

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    I don't take any AI's or HCG .

    I don't have sore nipples, or gyno.

    I take 5,000 iu of Vitamin D, at night and in the morning.
    I take 450mg of ZMA at night.
    I take 2g Arginine before bed.
    I take 3g Glutamine before bed.

    I take 2g Glutamine breakfast and dinner.
    I also take 2g of BCCA's at breakfast and dinner.

    I take Zinc, Magnesium and a bunch of other supplements.

    I put myself on a Low Glycemic Load diet, started 6/11/12. As of yesterday I was down 30lbs.


    I thought the Estradiol Sensitive Assay test covered E2?

    Thanks!!!

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    I should have been more specific in my question.

    I am wondering if my Estradiol Sensitive Assay and Pregnenolone levels look good?

    Based on the most recent B/W my DHEA level is showing high, and my previous Prolactin level is high.

    Does this mean I have a possible tumor on my Pituitary Gland and/or Adrenal Glands?

    Thanks!!

    PS: Based on your E2 post gdevine I'm guessing I probably should have had my E2 test done the day after my next T injection?
    Last edited by jwh7699; 08-30-2012 at 06:18 PM.

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