quick question from an x trt er

[yannick35]

Hey guys last year with that 20 week cycle deca masteron and test at 200mg per week i shot up at 261 pounds.

I manage with dieting and light training to shed a lot and am now at 215.

I am taking GH 2IU per day 5/2 have been doing this for about 3 months now plan on going til i run out, i manage to switch to 1IU at some point but that did nothing, its pharma grade BTW.

Now i still have depo testosterone left that i pay with presc 9$. I started using 100mg per week with HCG and armidex has an AI.

I wanted to know if there are any benefits of running 100mg of depo testosterone with GH, i read that GH really help with any steroids you take.

This time around i have no bloating, i am also taking diuretex an OTC water pill. And my diet has changed a lot too.

Thanks again

[SEOINAGE]

Are you wanting to be on trt or do you need to be on trt? If you do than do it, otherwise there really isn't a benefit to a low dose of test if you already produce nearly that much test. If you want to change your physique head on over to AAS section and consider doing a real cycle.

[yannick35]

I would like to use 100mg of test per week so i can benefit from the IGF1 and heal my body faster, i read that its good to take testosterone while taking GH.

This is my main reason to heal i am starting weight lifting again in January until then its collagen pills, cissus, tones of protein and prolotherapy to heal and get the ligaments stronger

[JohnnyVegas]

Hey, yannick...congrats on losing the weight.

I think taking the 100mg/wk would only be a benefit if it caused a significant increase over your natural Test levels. How are your natural levels now that you are off TRT?

[HRTstudent]

You really sound all over the place... whats your goal with taking all these drugs?...

[yannick35]

You really sound all over the place... whats your goal with taking all these drugs?...

I wrote it twice i want to repair my body, along with the prolo that is strenghtening my ligaments i want to heal faster.

T3 helps with GH secretion and speeds up the healing, my medical doctor told me that he saw a guy who got operated in the lower back and he was put on testosterone for a year not sure what dosage after that year he was doing judo 4 times per week.

Healing is my goal then after that i will do a real cycle to rebuild. Of course with T3 not training i have lost a huge amount of muscles with the weight.

I am planning a healing cycle now might bump the testoserone at 200mg per week. Not sure if its true what they say about too much testosterone and collagen synthetis being stopped?

[Hackamaniac]

Didn't you say you had 600 natural T levels?? If so, then you don't need trt... I don't think taking all this stuff is gonna heal your body, just cause more harm imo. Good luck either way.

[yannick35]

Didn't you say you had 600 natural T levels?? If so, then you don't need trt... I don't think taking all this stuff is gonna heal your body, just cause more harm imo. Good luck either way.

Yes my natrual T is 640, at some point it did go has high has 700 when i was eating lots of eggs and saturated fat, red meat, like they say cholesterol produces testosterone . I am well aware of the sids, this is why i do low dosage with HCG , and armidex on hand. Right now i do not need TRT for sure but i need the IGF 1 and collagen that testoserone can produce along with GH.

I want to heal and start training again in January, i am 40 years old been living with pain since 29 enough is enough i want pain free and i want to live a normal life.

Right now prolotherapy with sodium morrhuate (cod liver purified oil) GH, and steroid cycle will fix me, whey protein, 10g arginine before bed, melatonin, eggs and meat, good high protein diet, fruits and veggies, multi vitamine and collagen supplements, cissus.

[jwws9999]

The question than is how are you feeling. Have you gotten blood work to see what your levels are now. I wonder how many guys with t levels of 600 are boosting their levels to a thousand

Yes my natrual T is 640, at some point it did go has high has 700 when i was eating lots of eggs and saturated fat, red meat, like they say cholesterol produces testosterone . I am well aware of the sids, this is why i do low dosage with HCG , and armidex on hand. Right now i do not need TRT for sure but i need the IGF 1 and collagen that testoserone can produce along with GH.

I want to heal and start training again in January, i am 40 years old been living with pain since 29 enough is enough i want pain free and i want to live a normal life.

Right now prolotherapy with sodium morrhuate (cod liver purified oil) GH, and steroid cycle will fix me, whey protein, 10g arginine before bed, melatonin, eggs and meat, good high protein diet, fruits and veggies, multi vitamine and collagen supplements, cissus.

[yannick35]

The question than is how are you feeling. Have you gotten blood work to see what your levels are now. I wonder how many guys with t levels of 600 are boosting their levels to a thousand

Question here is own many people are boosting testosterone to higher levels doing a cycle 500-1000mg a week. My levels are fine last blood work cleaned up with HCG and PCT i was at 670.

Has we age the body produces less and less collagen this is why prolotherapy failed the first time, solution used was dextrose which is total $hit and for the bigger guy repair won't hold.

I am sure that lots of guys boost there testo level higher, right now after adding 100mg per week i feel awsome, split into 2 injections a day.

[HRTstudent]

If you are already at a T level of 600 then its hard to justify TRT. If you are looking at taking more than 300mg per week then you're probably asking in the wrong place. Nobody on TRT is going to advocate 500-1000mg per week...

If you want to heal your body faster I would say just eat an impeccable diet, live an active lifestyle, and get plenty of rest.

[yannick35]

If you are already at a T level of 600 then its hard to justify TRT. If you are looking at taking more than 300mg per week then you're probably asking in the wrong place. Nobody on TRT is going to advocate 500-1000mg per week...

If you want to heal your body faster I would say just eat an impeccable diet, live an active lifestyle, and get plenty of rest.

Not to be an A$$ but 10 years of chronic pain do you think i do not know about diet and actve lifestyle.

Its all good guys i dont see why someone with a natural T level of 600 could not benefit from boosting it to 1000 or so?

[Hackamaniac]

[QUOTE=yannick35;6167461]Not to be an A$$ but 10 years of chronic pain do you think i do not know about diet and actve lifestyle.

Its all good guys i dont see why someone with a natural T level of 600 could not benefit from boosting it to 1000 or so?[/QUOT

It might help, but if you don't need it, it can also cause more side effects and bring other things into a complex situation.

[yannick35]

i got a prescription for 20 bottles, depo testosterone and delatestryl, with the insurance covering it, i pay 9$ per bottle, i am not to let that go to waste.

Yes side effects but this time around i have HCG , armidex and diurtex on hand, and i take a low dosage. So far second injection no sides yet.

[HRTstudent]

Not to be an A$$ but 10 years of chronic pain do you think i do not know about diet and actve lifestyle.

Its all good guys i dont see why someone with a natural T level of 600 could not benefit from boosting it to 1000 or so?

I understand.

There is a tradeoff with TRT though. You basically try to outsmart nature... but if my T were 600 I would think nature is doing quite well so I would rather take that and avoid having to shut down my natural hormone production, and avoid taking very unnatural things like anastrozole. That's just my personal take though - I believe the ideal situation would be one where I don't need any form of TRT.

[jwws9999]

I don't think raising your t level from 600 to a thousand is going to harm anything, and you have any side effects planned for. Also, there's still alot of debate on what the range should be anyways, Keep us posted on your progress, I hope it helps with the pain

i got a prescription for 20 bottles, depo testosterone and delatestryl, with the insurance covering it, i pay 9$ per bottle, i am not to let that go to waste.

Yes side effects but this time around i have HCG, armidex and diurtex on hand, and i take a low dosage. So far second injection no sides yet.

[yannick35]

Guys for the record you remember my story right soooooo i am not going to bore anyone repeating it once more. I am not planing on staying on testosterone forever. I am planing like a 12-20 week low dosage.

I am back training very light seeing how things are going, i have lost a huge amount of weight and of course not all being fat, lost 2 inches on my arms, legs have shrunk too. So a bit of a booster and healing help.

I don't want to add anything else like a steroid right now, deca last time made me fat and retain so much water. I am using 2IU GH 5/2 i have been running this for 4 months now at some point i switch to 1IU per day don't even bother it did nothing, but 2IU really shows, i also use T3 50mcg a day.

I have read somewhere that GH and testosterone go really well togheter. Not sure if someone could post me a link on this.

Thanks again guys for advise and more. I can keep you posted i will be taking 150mg of depo testosterone per week split in 2 injections of 75mg i feel that having armidex and HCG this time around is going to be very different then last time.

[Rwy]

try having a test level of 161 at 32 years old. Working out and dieting but nothing is happening o your body.

[Hackamaniac]

I don't think raising your t level from 600 to a thousand is going to harm anything, and you have any side effects planned for. Also, there's still alot of debate on what the range should be anyways, Keep us posted on your progress, I hope it helps with the pain

Nobody really knows do they?? I'm talking about long term health. That's my point, why take it if you don't need it...When it definitely can cause some sides and make things worse in the long term.

[yannick35]

Nobody really knows do they?? I'm talking about long term health. That's my point, why take it if you don't need it...When it definitely can cause some sides and make things worse in the long term.

You said it long term, but short to mid term is not that bad, last year i met an a$$hole that said i can cure your back pain, he put me on deca , masteron and test E for 20 weeks, 20 weeks, imagine, 200mg a week each he even told me that i would not need an AI because masteron acts has an estrogen blocker.

I did a PCT at the end, i felt bad of course, but i did not have HCG nor did i have armidex, also deca made me bloat like hell. Lesson learned don't thrust a dick that is out to sell is steroids .

After the cycle he told me well no steroids won't help for ligament laxity............. good thing i was doing prolo at the time.

But i got blood tested after all the fiasco and everything came back good, my T level came back to normal 650-670 after a good PCT.

This time around i am doing low dosage has i said 150mg per week for about 12-15 weeks this will complete my GH cycle too.

After that when i can really train i will look into a real cycle. Now its just to heal and get back in shape.

[yannick35]

try having a test level of 161 at 32 years old. Working out and dieting but nothing is happening o your body.

You need to find a good medical doctor who can put you on TRT this is seriously low.