VIKING'S 6 week labs are in!

[Viking13]

Total test: 919 ng/dl 348-1197
Free test: 33.0 pg/ml 8.7-25.1
Estradiol:: 18.6 pg/ml 7.6-42.6
Prolactin: 5.3 ng/dl. 4.0-15.3
Tsh: 1.8 uIU/ml. 0.450-4.5
LH:0.1 miu. 1.7-8.6
Fsh: 0,2 miu. 1.5--12.4
PSA : 1.2 ng. 0.0-4.0 ( this was elevated from 0.9 but I had sex about 12 hours before so it's not as accurate))

Total cholesterol:169
Tryglycerides: 82

Protocol:
200mg split into 2 shots every 3.5 days. .25 of arimidex 3 days a week.

The blood was taken 3.5 days after the last shot almost. Overall, I feel great. Best I've felt in years. Libido is going STRONG. No strength increases or body composition changes but I have a better overall sense of well being thus far.

[bass]

Nice but I'd expect higher test levels at that dose! Your e2 test is not ultra sensitive so not a clear picture of what that is. Glad you feel great, just keep an eye on psa.

[Viking13]

I asked for a sensitive test and it was marked on the test as sensitive but this doc and his staff were morons.

[HRTstudent]

If you feel great then fantastic! That's what this is all about.

Your numbers look good too!

In the future, save the money and blood and skip the FSH and LH tests because they will be suppressed while on T.

[steroid.com 1]

Total test: 919 ng/dl 348-1197
Agree with bass, while this is an optimal range you'd think at 200mg/wk for it to be much higher. You may metabolize faster then most...

Free test: 33.0 pg/ml 8.7-25.1
High but I'd live with it. Now the 200mg/wk is showing the results.

Estradiol:: 18.6 pg/ml 7.6-42.6
Sensitive: Solid. If you took the AI 24 hours after your injection that would explain the 18.6 pg/ml...you may live a tad higher then this. FYI, you really don't want to go any lower than this so keep an eye out for signs of low E2.

Prolactin: 5.3 ng/dl. 4.0-15.3
Low to be honest, this is best at lower to mid range. You supplementing with anything else?

Tsh: 1.8 uIU/ml. 0.450-4.5
Nice!
LH:0.1 miu. 1.7-8.6
Fsh: 0,2 miu. 1.5--12.4
These two are not of any use.

PSA : 1.2 ng. 0.0-4.0
Sex eh It's fine...

You look good. I've liked to have seen more like Cortisol and SHBG among others...but overall you're about dialed in. Just keep an eye on the E2, really don't want that any lower than where it's at right now. Also, are you taking HCG to keep HPTA intact and keep the testes functioning? See the Sticky on HCG if you haven't read it yet...HCG is an important part of a good TRT protocol.

How long have you been on this protocol and when was the blood pulled in relation?

[Viking13]

Gdevine


I had my shot of 100mg on Sunday. Took the ai Monday morning. Had the pull done on wed at about 11 am.

I did cortisol it was 13.4ug/dl and range was 2.3-19.4

What does it mean when I metabolize it more? Is there a reason why you think I am? Should I ask for a higher dose?

Also, outside of vitamins I am not supplementing anything else for prolactin. Any options there?

I also asked for SHBG AND DHEA but the six did not request the test. Next time I will use private med labs.

No hcg yet. Spossed to start it next week or te week after. It's the one thing my sic wont prescribe throughout for some reason. Only every 3 months or so.

[steroid.com 1]

This explains a lot: "I had my shot of 100mg on Sunday. Took the ai Monday morning. Had the pull done on wed at about 11 am."

Your Testosterone was peaking and your AI was at peak half life so both were at maximum levels doing thier thing. What this means is that your Testosterone levels should be at their highest level and your E2 at the lower end. So in other words, that Total of 919 ng/dl is probably your maximum level. If you tested the day of your test injection but held off till the pull when your serum levels were at their lowest you'd get a better idea of where you stand when you are at the lowest level.

All metabolize more means is that your body is using more of the available testosterone and you may have a strong liver which process Testosterone as well. Nothing wrong, some men are just made that way.

I wouldn't ask to increase your dosage.

The only natural products that would help increase prolactin levels are ones that would contain natural estrogen's. Soy and yam roots are the only natural products that I know of that contain significant amounts of estrogen's. Unfortunately as a man you don't want any natural product that can mimic estrogen as you should know by now.

[Viking13]

Ok gdevine. I think I understand a little bit better now. Thank you for the explanation!

I think I did exactly what you said though in regards to waiting to pull until my injection day. The day, Wednesday, that I did the pull was my injection day. I injected later in the night. Probably about 12 hours after my pull. So are you saying 919 was my lowest level since I did the last injection early Sunday morning?

Sorry if its an ignorant question. Just trying to learn. Thanks or all the responses thus far!!

[steroid.com 1]

Never ignorant questions my friend.

I was not aware Wednesday was a injection night; that said, yes you would have been near low for your testosterone serum levels when they pulled your blood.

But keep one thing in perspective, you are injecting twice weekly and as such your serum levels across the board won't fluxuate as much as a man injecting once a week.

I am willing to bet at peak you're over 1100...but that's not a bad thing as long as you don't go supraphysiological for any extended period of time.

I think you're in a good place to be honest.

[Viking13]

Another question. What's supra physiological mean exactly?

Your verbiage is way ahead of me on this topic!

Also, I started out initially .25 arimidex after 12-24 hours after my Sunday morning an wed night shots. I had some nipple sensitivity and added in another .25 a week per KelKel's advice. No sensitivity issues. Do you think I could drop it back down to 2 x a week or is this as dialed in as it gets?

Also, what are days you would dose your arimidex if you were me?

Thanks for the guidance and advice here, means a lot.

[Hackamaniac]

Nice but I'd expect higher test levels at that dose! Your e2 test is not ultra sensitive so not a clear picture of what that is. Glad you feel great, just keep an eye on psa.

Bass, I don't understand... You had both tests done at the same time to check estradiol and they were almost identical.....So what made you change your mind to only trust the e2 test?

[SEOINAGE]

I was told peptides can have an effect on prolactin, might research this more.

[Viking13]

I was told peptides can have an effect on prolactin, might research this more.

Yea, my doc said he would prescribe ghrp-6 or igf-1. But I don't know enough about them to go with one. Plus I'm unsure how would it affect my current protocol? Any thoughts?

[steroid.com 1]

Another question. What's supra physiological mean exactly?

Your verbiage is way ahead of me on this topic!

Also, I started out initially .25 arimidex after 12-24 hours after my Sunday morning an wed night shots. I had some nipple sensitivity and added in another .25 a week per KelKel's advice. No sensitivity issues. Do you think I could drop it back down to 2 x a week or is this as dialed in as it gets?

Also, what are days you would dose your arimidex if you were me?

Thanks for the guidance and advice here, means a lot.

Supraphysiological just means levels above normal physiological levels or abnormally high.

Sounds like the AI dose is right but only BW will tell you that...no guessing.

Take you AI 24 hours after your Testosterone injection. Testosterone peaks at about 72 hours and the half life of most AI is about 50 hours so the timing has both peaking at the same time.

[kelkel]

Great advice above Viking. Glad you're doing well. Remember, the goal would be to not have to use an AI at all. Unfortunately, not many people can do this. Over time though with improvements in lifestyle, body fat, etc you can probably reduce the amount your taking. You may be able to reduce to twice per week once you get dialed in and go from there!

kel