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    Having trouble urinating and achieving orgasm

    Need to get my PSA check, but in the mean time anything that can help? Don't want to take flowmax, in my 30's not 86.
    Also have problems reaching orgasm. Just started within the last month
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    Edit:Started blast 9/10/12
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    this is typically caused by two things:

    1) narrow uretha
    2) enlarged prostate

    saw palmetto can help with the enlarged prostate. Additionally, being on cycle can temporarily enlarge your prostate as well. There are a variety of prostate supplements that can help. And if you sit around all day yankiing your wanker, that can make your bladder irritable as well.

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    If you think it's related to psa start on daily cialis.

    http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsro.../ucm274642.htm

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    Long-Term Effects of Dihydrotestosterone on Prostate Growth
    November 29, 2010
    The effects of dihydrotestosterone (DHT) on prostate growth are not yet completely understood, and research is on-going. Short-term studies using transdermal Andractim DHT gel have indicated that DHT could prevent prostate growth and may be beneficial to overall prostate health.
    Long-term results seem to tell a different story however. In a new study published November 16 in the Annals of Internal Medicine, researchers confirmed that 2 years of treatment with DHT gel showed no benefit over placebo at reducing prostatic growth.
    Background: Benign prostatic hypertrophy increases with age and can result in substantially decreased quality of life for older men. Surgery is often required to control symptoms. It has been hypothesized that long-term administration of a nonamplifiable pure androgen might decrease prostate growth, thereby decreasing or delaying the need for surgical intervention. ‘
    Participants: Healthy men (n = 114) older than 50 years without known prostate disease.
    Intervention: Transdermal DHT (70 mg) or placebo gel daily for 2 years.
    Results: Over 24 months, there was an increase in total (29% [95% CI, 23% to 34%]) and central (75% [CI, 64% to 86%]; P < 0.01) prostate volume and serum prostate-specific antigen level (15% [CI, 6% to 24%]) with time on study, but DHT had no effect (P > 0.2). Dihydrotestosterone treatment decreased spinal BMD (1.4% [CI, 0.6% to 2.3%]; P < 0.001) at 24 months but not hip BMD (P > 0.2) and increased serum aminoterminal propeptide of type I procollagen in the second year of the study compared with placebo. Dihydrotestosterone increased serum DHT levels and its metabolites (5α-androstane-3α,17β-diol and 5α-androstane-3β,17β-diol) and suppressed serum testosterone , estradiol, luteinizing hormone, and follicle-stimulating hormone levels. Dihydrotestosterone increased hemoglobin levels (7% [CI, 5% to 9%]), serum creatinine levels (9% [CI, 5% to 11%]), and lean mass (2.4% [CI, 1.6% to 3.1%) but decreased fat mass (5.2% [CI, 2.6% to 7.7%]) (P <0.001 for all). Protocol-specific discontinuations due to DHT were asymptomatic increased hematocrit (n = 8), which resolved after stopping treatment, and increased prostate-specific antigen levels (n = 3; none with prostate cancer) in the DHT group. No serious adverse effects due to DHT occurred.
    Conclusion: Dihydrotestosterone treatment for 24 months has no beneficial or adverse effect on prostate growth but causes a decrease in spinal but not hip BMD. These findings have important implications for the wider use of nonsteroidal pure androgens in older men.

    http://dihydrotestosterone.info/long...ostate-growth/

    If topically applied dht cream showed no affect on prostate growth would injectable testosterone have the same effect or make it worse?
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    Could also be an infection. I had that problem a couple of times when I was abusing my body. Cranberry juice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    If you think it's related to psa start on daily cialis.

    http://www.fda.gov/NewsEvents/Newsro.../ucm274642.htm

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    Getting testing Monday will get script Tuesday

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyVegas View Post
    Could also be an infection. I had that problem a couple of times when I was abusing my body. Cranberry juice.
    What were you abusing, I do not drink or do drugs.

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    My problem was a kidney stones stuck in the bladder right at the exit area, but once it came out i was fine. Have you had an explainable pain on your side in the last few days/weeks?

    Cranberry juice as noted byJV dose wonders for me, it doesn't hurt to get some, make sure it's the one has no sugar added, 8oz a day will do the trick.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bass View Post
    My problem was a kidney stones stuck in the bladder right at the exit area, but once it came out i was fine. Have you had an explainable pain on your side in the last few days/weeks?

    Cranberry juice as noted byJV dose wonders for me, it doesn't hurt to get some, make sure it's the one has no sugar added, 8oz a day will do the trick.
    No pain, let me post labs

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phased

    What were you abusing, I do not drink or do drugs.

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    Probably jacking off! LOL.

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    Edit:Started blast 9/10/12

    TESTOSTERONE , TOTAL BLOOD-GOLD(SER) SERUM SP ONCE LB #462433

    Collection time: Sep 14, 2012@14:52:13
    Test Name Result Units Range
    TESTOSTERONE, TOTAL >2000 H ng/dL 185 - 650
    Collection time: Sep 14, 2012@14:52:12
    Test Name Result Units Range
    GLUCOSE 104 H mg/dL 70 - 99
    CREATININE 1.14 mg/dL 0.4 - 1.2
    SODIUM 136 mMol/L 135 - 145
    CHLORIDE 100 mMol/L 95 - 106
    CHOLESTEROL 128 L mg/dL 140 - 240
    TRIGLYCERIDE 126 mg/dL 30 - 200
    PO4 2.7 mg/dL 2.5 - 4.5
    POTASSIUM 4.1 mMol/L 3.5 - 5.0
    CO2 27 mMol/L 24 - 31
    CALCIUM 8.8 mg/dL 8.5 - 10.4
    TSH HS 1.09 mIU/mL 0.49 - 4.67
    HDL 50 mg/dL Ref: >36
    CALCULATED LDL 55 mg/dl 3 - 130
    ALANINE AMINOTRANSFERASE 25 IU/L 11 - 45
    ASPARTATE AMINOTRANSFERASE 50 H IU/L 10 - 30
    ALKALINE PHOSPHATASE 105 IU/L 30 - 130
    BLOOD UREA NITROGEN 26 H mg/dL 8 - 23
    ALBUMIN 4.6 g/dL 3.4 - 4.8
    TOTAL BILIRUBIN 0.3 L mg/dL 0.4 - 1.2
    EGFR 75 L 94 - 140
    ANION GAP 9 mMol/L 6 - 15
    Comments:
    If Triglycerides >400, please measure direct LDL.


    Report Released Date/Time:
    Provider: FLOOD,GEORGE KEVIN
    Specimen: URINE. UA 0914 145
    Specimen Collection Date: 09/14/2012 14:52
    Test name Result units Ref. range Site Code
    URINALYSIS Test Not Performed
    Comment: *URINALYSIS Not Performed: 09/14/2012 3:05 pm by 73052
    *NP Reason:PT CANNOT VOID WILL RETURN
    ================================================== =============================


    Report Released Date/Time: Sep 19, 2012@14:23
    Provider: FLOOD,GEORGE KEVIN
    Specimen: SERUM. CRCH 0914 1286
    Specimen Collection Date: 09/14/2012 14:52
    Test name Result units Ref. range Site Code
    TESTOSTERONE, TOTAL >2000 H ng/dL 185 - 650 [664]
    Eval: TOTAL TESTOSTERONE REF RANGE (MALE) : 185 - 650 ng/dL (LC/MS/MS)
    Eval: TOTAL TESTOSTERONE REF RANGE (FEMALE) : 10 - 70 ng/dL (LC/MS/MS)
    ================================================== =============================


    Report Released Date/Time: Sep 14, 2012@19:15
    Provider: FLOOD,GEORGE KEVIN
    Specimen: SERUM. CH 0914 710
    Specimen Collection Date: 09/14/2012 14:52
    Test name Result units Ref. range Site Code
    HDL 50 mg/dL Ref: >36 [664]
    CALCULATED LDL 55 mg/dl 3 - 130 [664]
    BLOOD UREA NITROGEN 26 H mg/dL 8 - 23 [664]
    ALBUMIN 4.6 g/dL 3.4 - 4.8 [664]
    TOTAL BILIRUBIN 0.3 L mg/dL 0.4 - 1.2 [664]
    ANION GAP 9 mMol/L 6 - 15 [664]
    GLUCOSE 104 H mg/dL 70 - 99 [664]
    CREATININE 1.14 mg/dL 0.4 - 1.2 [664]
    EGFR 75 L 94 - 140 [664]
    Eval: Estimated GFR (ml/min/1.73m^2) =
    Eval: 175 x (Scr)^-1.154 x (Age)^-0.203 x (0.742 if female) x (1.21 if African -
    Eval: American). Where Scr=Serum Creatinine in mg/dL.
    Eval: eGFR results > 60 are imprecise. Many variables influence the calculation.
    Eval: eGFR results > 60 must be monitored and interpreted over time.
    SODIUM 136 mMol/L 135 - 145 [664]
    POTASSIUM 4.1 mMol/L 3.5 - 5.0 [664]
    CHLORIDE 100 mMol/L 95 - 106 [664]
    CO2 27 mMol/L 24 - 31 [664]
    ALKALINE PHOSPHATASE 105 IU/L 30 - 130 [664]
    ASPARTATE AMINOTRANSFERASE 50 H IU/L 10 - 30 [664]
    ALANINE AMINOTRANSFERASE 25 IU/L 11 - 45 [664]
    CALCIUM 8.8 mg/dL 8.5 - 10.4 [664]
    PO4 2.7 mg/dL 2.5 - 4.5 [664]
    CHOLESTEROL 128 L mg/dL 140 - 240 [664]
    Eval: Desirable Cholesterol <200
    Eval: Borderline High 200-239
    Eval: High >240
    TRIGLYCERIDE 126 mg/dL 30 - 200 [664]
    Eval: Desirable Triglyceride is <150 mg/dL.
    TSH HS 1.09 mIU/mL 0.49 - 4.67 [664]
    Comment: If Triglycerides >400, please measure direct LDL.
    ================================================== =============================


    Report Released Date/Time: Sep 14, 2012@18:55
    Provider: FLOOD,GEORGE KEVIN
    Specimen: BLOOD. HE 0914 380
    Specimen Collection Date: 09/14/2012 14:52
    Test name Result units Ref. range Site Code
    WBC 10.6 K/uL 4.8 - 10.8 [664]
    RBC 5.19 M/uL 4.7 - 5.6 [664]
    HGB 15.8 g/dL 12.4 - 17.4 [664]
    HCT 46.1 % 39 - 52 [664]
    MCV 88.8 fL 80 - 100 [664]
    MCH 30.5 pg 26 - 31 [664]
    MCHC 34.3 g/dL 32 - 36 [664]
    RDW 13.2 % 13 - 15 [664]
    PLT 204 K/uL 140 - 400 [664]
    ================================================== =============================


    Report Released Date/Time: Aug 10, 2012@16:41
    Provider: FLOOD,GEORGE KEVIN
    Specimen: SERUM. CH 0810 637
    Specimen Collection Date: 08/10/2012 13:30
    Test name Result units Ref. range Site Code
    HDL 36 mg/dL Ref: >36 [664]
    CALCULATED LDL 55 mg/dl 3 - 130 [664]
    CHOLESTEROL 108 L mg/dL 140 - 240 [664]
    Eval: Desirable Cholesterol <200
    Eval: Borderline High 200-239
    Eval: High >240
    TRIGLYCERIDE 86 mg/dL 30 - 200 [664]
    Eval: Desirable Triglyceride is <150 mg/dL.
    ================================================== =============================


    Report Released Date/Time: Aug 13, 2012@11:35
    Provider: PATRAWALA,SARA S
    Specimen: SERUM. SPCH 0810 183
    Specimen Collection Date: 08/10/2012 13:30
    Test name Result units Ref. range Site Code
    HEPATITIS C ANTIBODY NEGATIVE Ref: NEG [664]
    Eval: All First Time REACTIVE HCV Screen Results will be
    Eval: confirmed by HCV VIRAL LOAD.
    ================================================== =============================


    Report Released Date/Time: Aug 13, 2012@15:02
    Provider: PATRAWALA,SARA S
    Specimen: SERUM. SPCH 0810 182
    Specimen Collection Date: 08/10/2012 13:30
    Test name Result units Ref. range Site Code
    HEPATITIS B SURFACE ANTIBODYPOSITIVE [664]
    Eval: <5.00 mIU/mL = Negative
    Eval: >5.00 mIU/mL and < 12.0 mIU/mL = Indeterminate
    Eval: >12.0 mIU/mL = Positive
    HEPATITIS B SURFACE ANTIGENNEGATIVE Ref: NEG [664]
    Eval: A POSITIVE result is reported to the San Diego
    Eval: Dept. of Public Health by the laboratory.
    BHCG, SERUM TOTAL <2.0 mIU/mL NON-PREGNANT 0 - 5
    [664]
    ANTI-HAV TOTAL POSITIVE Ref: NEG [664]
    Eval: If Hepatitis A Antibody Total is POSITIVE and a Qualitative Hepatitis A
    Eval: IgM result is required, please order via the Consult - Labs Restricted
    Eval: Tests.
    HEPATITIS B CORE ANTIBODY NEGATIVE Ref: NEG [664]
    ================================================== =============================


    Report Released Date/Time: Aug 10, 2012@16:42
    Provider: PATRAWALA,SARA S
    Specimen: SERUM. CH 0810 636
    Specimen Collection Date: 08/10/2012 13:30
    Test name Result units Ref. range Site Code
    LH 13.83 mIU/mL [664]
    Eval: LH ref range male: 2-12 mIU/mL
    Eval: LH ref range female (follicular): 1-18 mIU/mL
    Eval: LH ref range female (mid-cycle peak): 24-105 mIU/mL
    Eval: LH ref range female (luteal): 0.4-20 mIU/mL
    Eval: LH ref range female (post menopausal): 15-62 mIU/mL
    ================================================== =============================


    Report Released Date/Time: Sep 06, 2012@12:20
    Provider: PATRAWALA,SARA S
    Specimen: SERUM. NIC 0810 125
    Specimen Collection Date: 08/10/2012 13:30
    Test name Result units Ref. range Site Code
    Estradiol 12 pg/mL Ref: ADULTS: Less than OR = 29
    [72024]
    Estradiol, Free 0.26 pg/mL Ref: ADULTS: Less than OR = 0.45
    [72024]
    Comment:
    Test Performed at:
    Quest Diagnostics Nichols Institute
    33608 Ortega Highway
    San Juan Capistrano, CA 92675-2042 J M Nakamoto MD, PhD
    ================================================== =============================


    Report Released Date/Time: Jul 23, 2012@15:05
    Provider: FLOOD,GEORGE KEVIN
    Specimen: SERUM. NIC 0718 124
    Specimen Collection Date: 07/18/2012 13:02
    Test name Result units Ref. range Site Code
    PROGESTERONE <0.1 ng/mL Ref: Less than OR = 0.3
    [72024]
    Comment:
    Test Performed at:
    Quest Diagnostics Nichols Institute
    33608 Ortega Highway
    San Juan Capistrano, CA 92675-2042 J M Nakamoto MD, PhD
    ================================================== =============================


    Report Released Date/Time: Jul 20, 2012@10:42
    Provider: FLOOD,GEORGE KEVIN
    Specimen: SERUM. CRCH 0718 527
    Specimen Collection Date: 07/18/2012 13:02
    Test name Result units Ref. range Site Code
    TESTOSTERONE, TOTAL 574 ng/dL 185 - 650 [664]
    Eval: TOTAL TESTOSTERONE REF RANGE (MALE) : 185 - 650 ng/dL (LC/MS/MS)
    Eval: TOTAL TESTOSTERONE REF RANGE (FEMALE) : 10 - 70 ng/dL (LC/MS/MS)
    ================================================== =============================


    Report Released Date/Time: Jul 18, 2012@16:41
    Provider: FLOOD,GEORGE KEVIN
    Specimen: SERUM. CH 0718 540
    Specimen Collection Date: 07/18/2012 13:02
    Test name Result units Ref. range Site Code
    LIPID PROFILE Test Not Performed
    ALBUMIN 4.8 g/dL 3.4 - 4.8 [664]
    TOTAL BILIRUBIN 0.4 mg/dL 0.4 - 1.2 [664]
    ALKALINE PHOSPHATASE 102 IU/L 30 - 130 [664]
    ASPARTATE AMINOTRANSFERASE 61 H IU/L 10 - 30 [664]
    ALANINE AMINOTRANSFERASE 39 IU/L 11 - 45 [664]
    Comment: If Triglycerides >400, please measure direct LDL.
    *LIPID PROFILE Not Performed: 07/18/2012 1:03 pm by 173119
    *NP Reasonatient will return fasting
    ================================================== =============================


    Report Released Date/Time: Jul 09, 2012@19:31
    Provider: BURGOYNE,ADAM MICHAEL
    Specimen: SERUM. CH 0709 965
    Specimen Collection Date: 07/09/2012 16:53
    Test name Result units Ref. range Site Code
    TSH HS 0.993 mIU/mL 0.49 - 4.67 [664]
    PROLACTIN 3.76 ng/mL 1.6 - 18.8 [664]
    ================================================== ==========================



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    Last edited by Phased; 10-09-2012 at 08:26 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phased View Post
    What were you abusing, I do not drink or do drugs.
    No alcohol or drugs. Eating disorder, obsessive exercise and dehydration. I dropped from 235 pounds to around 160 pounds. I wasn't feeding my body and it was suffering. Sometimes I couldn't pee and cranberry juice always took care of it.

    Just trying to cover all the angles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyVegas View Post
    No alcohol or drugs. Eating disorder, obsessive exercise and dehydration. I dropped from 235 pounds to around 160 pounds. I wasn't feeding my body and it was suffering. Sometimes I couldn't pee and cranberry juice always took care of it.

    Just trying to cover all the angles.
    Do you recommend a low calorie version to not spike blood sugar. Let me know and I'll get the old lady to some right now. Thank you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phased View Post
    Do you recommend a low calorie version to not spike blood sugar. Let me know and I'll get the old lady to some right now. Thank you

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    No suger added. Worked for Bass above...worked for me. Bass said he drank 8oz. a day. I drank more because, well, back then I suffered from a lack of moderation.

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    still a fair amount of sugar and cals in any fruit juice, just make sure it doesnt have the extra sugar added, it's just not necessary.

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    Cross post could these two problems be related? Both of these just started to happen last week. I am very concerned and so is the old lady.


    Quote Originally Posted by Phased View Post
    Need to get my PSA check, but in the mean time anything that can help? Don't want to take flowmax, in my 30's not 86.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phased View Post
    I takes me forever to go as well and not in a good way, I have to work my ass off to get there and sometimes don't make it. I don't know if I will start taking pills for it, just life I guess and getting older. If I had the stamina I had now when I was 21 I would have been considered a god by the high school girls. Life has a weird way of sticking it to you. This too is something I will never understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SD421 View Post
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    still a fair amount of sugar and cals in any fruit juice, just make sure it doesnt have the extra sugar added, it's just not necessary.
    Irony: fruit and fruit juices are the one thing on the planet that I crave. More than sweets. Yet, I am supposed to never have them. Grrrrrrr. Why can't I crave chicken and rice? That would make every day a dream come true.

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    Man Phase, that's a lot of blood work to go through.

    Your Total Test on Sep. 14th was 2000 ng/dl which it supraphysiological but on July 20th you were 574 and yet on Aug. 10th your LH was 13.83 mIU/mL which is high.

    Did you do an injection sometime before the 14th?

    Was there a sudden onset with your difficulty in urinating or did it happen slowly? Is there any pain associated with it? Have you checked for a low grade fever? Does your urine stream just stop in mid stream and just sort of dribble? Do you feel any different in any way?

    In my opinion, only a Urologist with the proper tests will determine what's up so good that you have an appointment soon...just stay away from drinking a lot of beer...kid you not!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    Man Phase, that's a lot of blood work to go through.

    Your Total Test on Sep. 14th was 2000 ng/dl which it supraphysiological but on July 20th you were 574 and yet on Aug. 10th your LH was 13.83 mIU/mL which is high.

    These don't add up...

    Was there a sudden onset with your difficulty in urinating or did it happen slowly? Is there any pain associated with it? Have you checked for a low grade fever?

    Do you feel any different? .


    In my opinion, only a Urologist with the proper tests will determine what's up so good that you have an appointment soon...just stay away from drinking a lot of beer...kid you not!
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    Collection time: Sep 14, 2012@14:52:13
    Test Name Result Units Range
    TESTOSTERONE , TOTAL >2000 H ng/dL 185 - 650

    Collection time: Sep 14, 2012@14:52:12

    Test name Result units Ref. range Site Code
    Estradiol 12 pg/mL Ref: ADULTS: Less than OR = 29
    [72024]
    Estradiol, Free 0.26 pg/mL Ref: ADULTS: Less than OR = 0.45
    [72024]

    Report Released Date/Time: Jul 20, 2012@10:42
    Provider: FLOOD,GEORGE KEVIN
    Specimen: SERUM. CRCH 0718 527
    Specimen Collection Date: 07/18/2012 13:02
    Test name Result units Ref. range Site Code
    TESTOSTERONE, TOTAL 574 ng/dL 185 - 650 [664]
    Eval: TOTAL TESTOSTERONE REF RANGE (MALE) : 185 - 650 ng/dL (LC/MS/MS)
    Eval: TOTAL TESTOSTERONE REF RANGE (FEMALE) : 10 - 70 ng/dL (LC/MS/MS)
    ================================================== =============================


    I started my blast 09/12/12
    Unfortunately I drank a lot this weekend saturday and Sunday for a family wedding.
    Besides the trouble orgasming and urinating I feel great. I have trouble getting the urine to start that's all


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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    Man Phase, that's a lot of blood work to go through.

    Your Total Test on Sep. 14th was 2000 ng/dl which it supraphysiological but on July 20th you were 574 and yet on Aug. 10th your LH was 13.83 mIU/mL which is high.

    Did you do an injection sometime before the 14th?

    Was there a sudden onset with your difficulty in urinating or did it happen slowly? Is there any pain associated with it? Have you checked for a low grade fever? Does your urine stream just stop in mid stream and just sort of dribble? Do you feel any different in any way?

    In my opinion, only a Urologist with the proper tests will determine what's up so good that you have an appointment soon...just stay away from drinking a lot of beer...kid you not!
    Can u comment on this

    Quote Originally Posted by Phased View Post
    Cross post could these two problems be related? Both of these just started to happen last week. I am very concerned and so is the old lady.


    Originally Posted by Phased
    I takes me forever to go as well and not in a good way(Refering to orgasm), I have to work my ass off to get there and sometimes don't make it. I don't know if I will start taking pills for it, just life I guess and getting older. If I had the stamina I had now when I was 21 I would have been considered a god by the high school girls. Life has a weird way of sticking it to you. This too is something I will never understand.


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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    Man Phase, that's a lot of blood work to go through.

    Your Total Test on Sep. 14th was 2000 ng/dl which it supraphysiological but on July 20th you were 574 and yet on Aug. 10th your LH was 13.83 mIU/mL which is high. Started blast 9/10/12, I don't know what to say about the LH other than I was taking nolvadex for sensitive nipples

    Did you do an injection sometime before the 14th? Yes

    Was there a sudden onset with your difficulty in urinating or did it happen slowly? Trouble starting flow Is there any pain associated with it? No pain Have you checked for a low grade fever? No feverDoes your urine stream just stop in mid stream and just sort of dribble? Do you feel any different in any way? No fever, just test flu from prop first two weeks,feel great besides trouble urinating and reaching orgasm

    In my opinion, only a Urologist with the proper tests will determine what's up so good that you have an appointment soon...just stay away from drinking a lot of beer...kid you not! Now you have me worried
    Done, sorry drank beer Saturday and Sunday for a family wedding

    Best
    Last edited by Phased; 10-09-2012 at 08:01 PM.

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    Nolva should explain the high LH then. Read this. Pretty informative:

    http://www.lef.org/protocols/male_re...rplasia_01.htm

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    Nolva should explain the high LH then. Read this. Pretty informative:

    http://www.lef.org/protocols/male_re...rplasia_01.htm
    Kel thank you,

    Nolvadex is the reason for sure. One problem down, 3 more to go.
    Can you read that study about increasing DHT and it's applied science to enlargement or elevation of BPH. I'm interesting in your thoughts.

    From that article you posted, here is an exert relating to my dht theory.
    "
    5-Alpha-reductase inhibitors. Prostate cells produce 5-alpha-reductase, which converts testosterone into DHT. DHT is much more potent than testosterone at promoting prostate growth. The drug finasteride inhibits 5-alpha-reductase 2, but not 5-alpha-reductase 1. The drug dutasteride inhibits both 5-alpha-reductase 1 and 5-alpha-reductase 2 and is considered more effective (Occhiato EG et al 2004)."

    I am going to start advodart Friday then as well as 30mg of cialis daily.

    What do you think about being very difficult/ unable to achieve orgasm.

    I don't agree with there idea about using anastrozole to combat BPH, does not seem sound. Better options and my plan is to stay off the AI now that I have gone SQ. It's one or the other for me would you not agree, advodart and cialis vs anastrozole.

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    Dude, this tiny little tidbit of information in your first post "I started my blast 09/12/12" would have helped.

    I figured it out looking at your BW but why didn't you include originally?

    Is the timing of your difficulty in reaching orgasm and urinating tied to when you blasted on the 12th or before???

    It would not surprise me one bit that your Testosterone serum levels are contributing to your problem In fact Phase, these symptoms, even lower libido, are seen in men with total serum levels in the 1,000 range.

    The reason I say stay away from beer is that the body can digest it quickly and fill the bladder in a more rapid manor then most other forms of liquid we take in and why we need to pee so much when we drink beer. You need to be able to evacuate that urine in a sufficient manner or the bladder will fill to capacity faster then you can relieve it and that my friend can put you in a bad place.

    I remember a friend in college who had blockage due to a stone and we went out drinking hard; he couldn't relieve his bladder fast enough and we had to rush him to the hospital where they put giant syringe into his bladder to withdraw the fluid and relieve the pressures...this dude was in serious pain.

    You need to see a Urologist Phase; no fooling around and be honest about your blast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    Dude, this tiny little tidbit of information in your first post "I started my blast 09/12/12" would have helped.

    I figured it out looking at your BW but why didn't you include originally?

    Is the timing of your difficulty in reaching orgasm and urinating tied to when you blasted on the 12th or before???

    It would not surprise me one bit that your Testosterone serum levels are contributing to your problem In fact Phase, these symptoms, even lower libido, are seen in men with total serum levels in the 1,000 range.

    The reason I say stay away from beer is that the body can digest it quickly and fill the bladder in a more rapid manor then most other forms of liquid we take in and why we need to pee so much when we drink beer. You need to be able to evacuate that urine in a sufficient manner or the bladder will fill to capacity faster then you can relieve it and that my friend can put you in a bad place.

    I remember a friend in college who had blockage due to a stone and we went out drinking hard; he couldn't relieve his bladder fast enough and we had to rush him to the hospital where they put giant syringe into his bladder to withdraw the fluid and relieve the pressures...this dude was in serious pain.

    You need to see a Urologist Phase; no fooling around and be honest about your blast.
    I was not trying to be not honest, I have been working from my iPad and it's very hard to do all of this and include everything all at once, if you look and my posts I have had to edit them many times to get in all the information. I hope you can understand! I had no intention of not saying I was not on a blast, I have talked about it on here a few times wil Kel and Vett in the SQ forum since I just started those injections.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    Dude, this tiny little tidbit of information in your first post "I started my blast 09/12/12" would have helped.

    I figured it out looking at your BW but why didn't you include originally? Already addressed one post up

    Is the timing of your difficulty in reaching orgasm and urinating tied to when you blasted on the 12th or before??? Started 3 weeks into my blast

    It would not surprise me one bit that your Testosterone serum levels are contributing to your problem In fact Phase, these symptoms, even lower libido, are seen in men with total serum levels in the 1,000 range. I understand

    The reason I say stay away from beer is that the body can digest it quickly and fill the bladder in a more rapid manor then most other forms of liquid we take in and why we need to pee so much when we drink beer. You need to be able to evacuate that urine in a sufficient manner or the bladder will fill to capacity faster then you can relieve it and that my friend can put you in a bad place.

    It was a wedding, no more beer for a long long time, and I did not get drunk

    I remember a friend in college who had blockage due to a stone and we went out drinking hard; he couldn't relieve his bladder fast enough and we had to rush him to the hospital where they put giant syringe into his bladder to withdraw the fluid and relieve the pressures...this dude was in serious pain.

    You need to see a Urologist Phase; no fooling around and be honest about your blast.I'm trying to be as honest as possible, I'm sorry I forgot to include origional date, as I mentioned it's hard remember everything, pulling labs from the iPad posting them here and getting everything in. And I'm very frustrated. This is not the easiest thing to go through or deal with lack of a computer, also I'm on the road with family, kids and such, no hcg so I'm coming here for support during this difficult challenge and not having my hcg, or advodart and cialis is now frustrating me to great lengths.
    I hope you can understand
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    Ps I have updated the origional post and blood work showing the exact date of my blast

    Edit:Started blast 9/10/12
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    Kel thank you,

    Nolvadex is the reason for sure. One problem down, 3 more to go.
    Can you read that study about increasing DHT and it's applied science to enlargement or elevation of BPH. I'm interesting in your thoughts.

    From that article you posted, here is an exert relating to my dht theory.
    "
    5-Alpha-reductase inhibitors. Prostate cells produce 5-alpha-reductase, which converts testosterone into DHT. DHT is much more potent than testosterone at promoting prostate growth. The drug finasteride inhibits 5-alpha-reductase 2, but not 5-alpha-reductase 1. The drug dutasteride inhibits both 5-alpha-reductase 1 and 5-alpha-reductase 2 and is considered more effective (Occhiato EG et al 2004)."

    I am going to start advodart Friday then as well as 30mg of cialis daily.

    What do you think about being very difficult/ unable to achieve orgasm.

    I don't agree with there idea about using anastrozole to combat BPH, does not seem sound. Better options and my plan is to stay off the AI now that I have gone SQ. It's one or the other for me would you not agree, advodart and cialis vs anastrozole.

    Best
    Phase - The conversion to DHT via 5-ar is seen much more in men who use daily transdermals than men who inject. That being said, there are some men who are hyper-responsive and can synthesize more Testosterone to DHT then other men...but it's sort of uncommon.

    It's very possible that your every elevated serum levels have triggered a higher then normal conversion to DHT.

    If I were you, I'd just lay off everything for a few weeks and get back to base line; if you don't see any improvement at all...seek the proper medical attention.

    This post is more about the likely results to a blast of testosterone than it is the therapeutic use of hormones for androgen optimization.

    This may be a better discussion for the aas forum to be honest.

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    Lots of great comments above, many avenues covered. I'm with GD on this, that you need a good urologist to get his/her hands on it (literally). If I had to guess (and it would just be guesswork at this stage), I'd say you probably have a slightly enlarged prostate. Take your fingers and press along the area of your prostate, you know that little one inch or so area behind the sack. See if you feel any pressure when you push down on it and rub along it.

    I've had a similar issue, and my doctor was helpful with showing me this technique when she gave me my exam. Got to say, her little Asian hands, the exam, it was worth every penny of that $25 copay!! That's another story though ...

    All the above advise works for me as good as anything. With the low dose Cialis, may I suggest also a 1mg dose of Doxacard with it. Doxacard is an alpha blocker, used for helping to lower BP, kidney issues, and hyperplasia of the prostate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    Phase - The conversion to DHT via 5-ar is seen much more in men who use daily transdermals than men who inject. That being said, there are some men who are hyper-responsive and can synthesize more Testosterone to DHT then other men...but it's sort of uncommon.

    It's very possible that your every elevated serum levels have triggered a higher then normal conversion to DHT.

    If I were you, I'd just lay off everything for a few weeks and get back to base line; if you don't see any improvement at all...seek the proper medical attention.

    This post is more about the likely results to a blast of testosterone than it is the therapeutic use of hormones for androgen optimization.

    This may be a better discussion for the aas forum to be honest.
    Btw you and Kel you guys have answered my questions. And we know what the problem is better now
    Starting the cialis and advodart and back on hcg Friday. As well as get my psh tested next Monday.
    Now we understand why this is happening now. Thank you for your help. And again I apologize for not including my origional start date blast of 9/10/12 I was not trying to hide it, infact that is obviously the reason this is happening and hiding it would do no one including me any good. Please I hope you understand i just needed time to gather my thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vettester View Post
    Lots of great comments above, many avenues covered. I'm with GD on this, that you need a good urologist to get his/her hands on it (literally). If I had to guess (and it would just be guesswork at this stage), I'd say you probably have a slightly enlarged prostate. Take your fingers and press along the area of your prostate, you know that little one inch or so area behind the sack. See if you feel any pressure when you push down on it and rub along it.

    I've had a similar issue, and my doctor was helpful with showing me this technique when she gave me my exam. Got to say, her little Asian hands, the exam, it was worth every penny of that $25 copay!! That's another story though ...

    All the above advise works for me as good as anything. With the low dose Cialis, may I suggest also a 1mg dose of Doxacard with it. Doxacard is an alpha blocker, used for helping to lower BP, kidney issues, and hyperplasia of the prostate.
    Vett thank you,

    What would use use, advodart or Doxy? Advodart blocks inhibitor of (5α-reductase type 1 and 2)think that might be my ticket. And I have some on hand at home in the HRT cabinet.

    I just did the examin and feel nothing out of the ordianry, but my doctor is a nice young female so I will defer to her touch

    Thank you so much,
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    "I've had a similar issue, and my doctor was helpful with showing me this technique when she gave me my exam. Got to say, her little Asian hands, the exam, it was worth every penny of that $25 copay!! That's another story though ..."

    Hell Vette, that's a sweet deal, usually costs me an extra $40 for that "little extra" at the Asian Spa

    Phase - You know why you are where you are at and you have a game plan...have at it.

    BTW, if I were you, I'd take 5mg of the Cialis every 12 hours to keep serum levels peaked. Tadalafil (Cialis) has about an 18 hour half life so the small dose of 5mg every 12 hours will do wonders.

    Also, if you can get your hands on an Alpha Blocker like Vette mentioned (I like Doxazosin 1mg every 12 hours) this will also go a long way to relax the smooth muscles surrounding the prostate and help matters even more.

    Now I got to find out who this little Asian Doc is and get me an appointment

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phased View Post
    Kel thank you,

    Nolvadex is the reason for sure. One problem down, 3 more to go.
    Can you read that study about increasing DHT and it's applied science to enlargement or elevation of BPH. I'm interesting in your thoughts.

    From that article you posted, here is an exert relating to my dht theory.
    "
    5-Alpha-reductase inhibitors. Prostate cells produce 5-alpha-reductase, which converts testosterone into DHT. DHT is much more potent than testosterone at promoting prostate growth. The drug finasteride inhibits 5-alpha-reductase 2, but not 5-alpha-reductase 1. The drug dutasteride inhibits both 5-alpha-reductase 1 and 5-alpha-reductase 2 and is considered more effective (Occhiato EG et al 2004)."

    I am going to start advodart Friday then as well as 30mg of cialis daily.

    What do you think about being very difficult/ unable to achieve orgasm.

    I don't agree with there idea about using anastrozole to combat BPH, does not seem sound. Better options and my plan is to stay off the AI now that I have gone SQ. It's one or the other for me would you not agree, advodart and cialis vs anastrozole.

    Best

    I'm just not sold on DHT as the total causative factor just yet. Like G said, gels raise dht far more than injectables. I've got experience there. When I did Agel my dht when through the roof. Switched to cyp and in one month it dropped literally in half. Prostate issues can occur, unfortunately, even with good psa levels. Advodart fine but that amount of cialis seems high. I run 5mg twice per day, as does GD. Were you on proviron or any dht derivative by chance?

    Regarding anorgasmia. Could be what GD referenced (high T level) plus looking at your E level it appears a bit low. That's not a sensitive assay is it? Everyone has a different baseline where all is well. Maybe that was just a bit to low for you while your T was a bit to high? Many factors can play into this. Synergistic effect between meds/alcohol.

    I agree so far on your plan, as long as it includes a doc visit.

    Edit as a few other posts came in. Re alpha blockers G and some of the guys like doxazosin low dose twice a day with cialis. Further, prior to your psa blood work avoid orgasm for at least a few days (I know, sorry) as it can skew your results.

    Edit #2: How many people do you think are pressing on that "special" place right now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    "I've had a similar issue, and my doctor was helpful with showing me this technique when she gave me my exam. Got to say, her little Asian hands, the exam, it was worth every penny of that $25 copay!! That's another story though ..."

    Hell Vette, that's a sweet deal, usually costs me an extra $40 for that "little extra" at the Asian Spa

    Phase - You know why you are where you are at and you have a game plan...have at it.

    BTW, if I were you, I'd take 5mg of the Cialis every 12 hours to keep serum levels peaked. Tadalafil (Cialis) has about an 18 hour half life so the small dose of 5mg every 12 hours will do wonders.

    Also, if you can get your hands on an Alpha Blocker like Vette mentioned (I like Doxazosin 1mg every 12 hours) this will also go a long way to relax the smooth muscles surrounding the prostate and help matters even more.

    Now I got to find out who this little Asian Doc is and get me an appointment
    Its all about problem solving..GI joe knows this
    "Now you know, and knowing is half the battle"

    Thanks guys
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    I'm just not sold on DHT as the total causative factor just yet. Like G said, gels raise dht far more than injectables. I've got experience there. When I did Agel my dht when through the roof. Switched to cyp and in one month it dropped literally in half. Prostate issues can occur, unfortunately, even with good psa levels. Advodart fine but that amount of cialis seems high. I run 5mg twice per day, as does GD. Were you on proviron or any dht derivative by chance?

    Regarding anorgasmia. Could be what GD referenced (high T level) plus looking at your E level it appears a bit low. That's not a sensitive assay is it? Everyone has a different baseline where all is well. Maybe that was just a bit to low for you while your T was a bit to high? Many factors can play into this. Synergistic effect between meds/alcohol.

    I agree so far on your plan, as long as it includes a doc visit.
    Doc visit Monday of next week. Funny, when I got my test results back at 2000ng, no one said a word at the dr. Office.
    No proviron. Will start on cialis at 5mg twice a day. as you guys know I'm out of town therefore out of the loop with my connections at home.

    E levels were low because of the nolva I was using preculuding the cycle as well as the aromasin for the first few weeks. Educated guess.
    No proviron but going to 1g test a week is surely what did it.

    Thanks for wrapping this up within a few hours guys. I had an idea of what needed to happen in theory but nice to have extra input and see other avenues of approach before going though with your own.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Phased View Post
    Doc visit Monday of next week. Funny, when I got my test results back at 2000ng, no one said a work at the dr. Office.No proviron . Will start on cialis at 5mg twice a day. as you guys know I'm out of town therefore out of the loop with my connections at home.

    E levels were low because of the nolva I was using preculuding the cycle as well as the aromasin for the first few weeks. Educated guess.
    No proviron but going to 1g test a week is surely what did it.

    Thanks for wrapping this up within a few hours guys. I had an idea of what needed to happen in theory but nice to have extra input and see other avenues of approach before going though with your own.

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    Intimidated maybe?

    Let us know how this goes...

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    Now that's funny right there ----> Edit #2: How many people do you think are pressing on that "special" place right now?

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    Now that's funny right there ----> Edit #2: How many people do you think are pressing on that "special" place right now?
    Thats hilarious!! I felt eerie and freaked out down there and the old lady was not going to do it so I headed under the covers and got out as quick as I went in.

    Sounds like you want a #2 Asian lady to press on yours though

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post


    Edit #2: How many people do you think are pressing on that "special" place right now?
    As she showed me, take 2 fingers, press slightly directly underneath the happy sack. Roll the fingers along the prostate area gently and you can feel if there's pressure, or what feels like possible inflammation (don't make me post a video here). It was at least a 5 minute session on that alone with her helping me to get to know myself a little better. Next time, I take her my wife's schoolgirl outfit and we do the same drill ... All bets are off!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vettester View Post
    As she showed me, take 2 fingers, press slightly directly underneath the happy sack. Roll the fingers along the prostate area gently and you can feel if there's pressure, or what feels like possible inflammation (don't make me post a video here). It was at least a 5 minute session on that alone with her helping me to get to know myself a little better. Next time, I take her my wife's schoolgirl outfit and we do the same drill ... All bets are off!
    I think devine and Kel want videos and pics. I'll be happy with sloppy school girl seconds though

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