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    Dosing and Timing of AI and HCG

    I am on the standard 100mg of Test E., which I take in two 50mg doses like this:

    Monday Night - 50mg
    Friday Morning - 50mg

    Now I want to add Anastrozole and hCG to the mix, but am unsure on how the timing should go? I have been on Test E for 2 months, an AI for 1 month, and hCG for 1 day. It looks to me anecdotally like many vets here do 250iu hCG on Monday, Wednesday and Friday. And right now, my last labs showed that the AI I was using (Letrozole ) predictably blew my E2 down into the doldrums, so I want to start light in the AI department now that I am switching to Armidex, say .75mg/wk? Does this plan look ok?

    Mon Morn - .25mg Arimidex ; 250iu hCG
    Mon Night - 50mg Test E.
    Tue - nothing
    Wed Morn - .25mg Arimidex; 250iu hCG
    Thur - nothing
    Fri Morn - .25mg Arimidex; 250iu hCG; 50mg Test E.
    Sat - nothing
    Sun - nothing

    I realize I will likely have to tweak it based on bloodwork and how I feel, but I wanted to make sure I wasn't doing a no-no from the beginning. (Like if taking an AI the same day as a T injection is bad, or if AI and hCG simultaneous is bad, etc.)

    Does this look sensible?

    And another quick question: Can I do hCG for a few days in a row to bring bac my lost ball size quicker? I'd say they are 25% smaller, and I thought maybe doing 250iu hCG for 7 days straight, and THEN settling into that dose 3x a week might be a good idea?

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    I'll just comment on the hCG question. You shouldn't load hCG into your system for 7 days straight at that level. I'd imagine that the affect on your body wouldn't be so healthy. Maybe try the standard protocol and that being 250mg x 2 (two days in a row prior to your test pinning). Try that and she your results before your create a larger problem.

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    Thanks for the response. I have decided to forget the 7 days in a row angle, but I am going to stick with hCG 3x a week as I outlined unless somoene persuades me otherwise. I will get bloodwork done 2 weeks from now to see how things are looking.

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    Let's see...no don't do this...

    Mon Morn - .25mg Arimidex ; 250iu hCG
    Mon Night - 50mg Test E.
    Tue - nothing
    Wed Morn - .25mg Arimidex; 250iu hCG
    Thur - nothing
    Fri Morn - .25mg Arimidex; 250iu hCG; 50mg Test E.
    Sat - nothing
    Sun - nothing

    Do this...
    Monday morning 50 mg of Test Cyp & 250 iu HCG
    Tuesday morning .25 mg AI
    Wednesday morning 250 iu HCG
    Thursday night 50mg of Test Cyp
    Friday morning 250 iu HCG and .25 mg AI
    Weekends off.

    The benefits here are the timing of when Test Cyp serum levels peak (about 72 hours or so) and half life of an AI (about 50 hours) so both peak at about the same time and you get full benefit. The HCG course is just nice, smaller frequent doses over time...

    This is near what I do (sans the AI the last two months as I don't need it) and my serum levels were damn near perfect and dialed in.

    Give it a go...you'll be happy!

    gd

    PS Get blood work done in 6 weeks not 2 weeks.
    Last edited by steroid.com 1; 10-22-2012 at 07:55 PM.

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    Yes, that is what I was looking for. I will give this exact protocol a run and test in 6 weeks as you say. Thanks so much!! I will post my lab results in this same thread.

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    Have at it man; not the easiest protocol to remember but may be the best for IM style protocols.

    I like EOD for SQ injections...but that's a different thread!

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    Have at it man; not the easiest protocol to remember but may be the best for IM style protocols.

    I like EOD for SQ injections...but that's a different thread!
    Well for the record I inject everything SQ, my Test E. as well as the hCG . I hope your timing recommendation still stands?

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    What GD said still stands. Inject anywhere your comfortable and with any method. It's the twice a week or more that helps to lower E spikes. Agree on dropping the adex to twice per week as well. I think you'll have a much easier time handling your E with adex on this type of protocol. Letro is advantageous for cycling, not TRT, IMO.

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    Like kel said; for me SQ is sooooo easy that an EOD injection protocol works and it achieves its purpose even more

    Twice a week SQ is just fine as well.

    You will do well...

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    Thanks guys, I will report back with my blood work on this protocol.

    Cheers,
    Junkyard

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    No issues with drawing or injecting sq test cyp? I get mine from a compound pharmacy but it's not compounded product, it's direct from wherever they buy it. They tell me to use 25 gauge no smaller or you won't be able to inject.

    so you inject directly into stomach fast just like hcg ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjbandit View Post
    No issues with drawing or injecting sq test cyp? I get mine from a compound pharmacy but it's not compounded product, it's direct from wherever they buy it. They tell me to use 25 gauge no smaller or you won't be able to inject.

    so you inject directly into stomach fast just like hcg?
    I inject the hCG SQ into my stomach fat, and it is easy-peasy. I use a 29g .5" insulin needle.

    I inject the Test E. I use SQ into fat in my quads, using a 27g .5" allergy needle. This is how my doc showed me how to do it, and my blood work shows it is working, so I stick with it. It takes longer to draw the Test E. and injecting is about 15 seconds instead of 3, but no, there are no problems.

    Now that I am getting comfy with my injections I am considering rotating to different spots, too.
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