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    I know it was mentioned somewhere in here already, but now that you're a little further in the process, what is your estimated time of cutting the ribbon so to speak??

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    Quote Originally Posted by system admin View Post
    UPDATE!!!!!

    We are working on a deal where we would be able to service EVERY CITY and you will NOT have to fly!!

    This may already be getting bigger than we ever imagined. Will keep you posted!

    Bc
    I think that aspect would benefit your business greatly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by system admin View Post
    One more thing. The last meeting with the lawyers was not a good one for those of you who want to use your insurance. We CAN provide help in guiding you through the submission process with your insurance company, but due to most insurance companies NOT covering HRT or Low Testosterone issues, it is not looking like we are going to take it. This is pretty much standard for this type of treatment. HOWEVER, that is ALL the more reason why we are doing EVERYTHING we can to help reduce the cost and pass the savings onto the clients. We are going to make this easy. Lowest price, BEST customer service, and above all the BEST medical care.

    Stay tuned. I will keep you all posted.
    that sucks!

    an 11 year old girl can get birth control (hormones) covered but a 45 year old male with low hormones can't? WTF?

    why aren't doctors and endos doing more to change the old ways of looking at low testerone and aging? (for example, why is the normal range 400-900ngs, just thinking this needs to change, too broad)

    what are some things that could/can change this?
    Last edited by RaginCajun; 11-05-2012 at 01:38 PM. Reason: wanted to add the last part in

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    As far as insurance goes if you accept Tricare for life or Medicare I will travel from Washington state cus I'm about to start seeing my 4th doc for my trt. This time it's a actual Endo and not a urologist or primary care doc. But to get 100% care unlike the 70% I've been getting would be honestly life changing. Trt has been a nightmare of trying to get care and doctors not knowing how to or not wanting to and it sucks. My last trt doctor (a urologist) ran out of test E and said the company was on back order and I would just have to wait. Which I'm sure you guys know how that went I crashed hard from depression to Ed and so I said F it and bought a bunch of test so i could do my own trt but I know I need a doctor and be so that why I'm getting into a Endo but his first apointment isn't till march so if you can get this going and accept insurance I'm yours.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 00ragincajun00 View Post
    that sucks!

    an 11 year old girl can get birth control (hormones) covered but a 45 year old male with low hormones can't? WTF?

    why aren't doctors and endos doing more to change the old ways of looking at low testerone and aging? (for example, why is the normal range 400-900ngs, just thinking this needs to change, too broad)

    what are some things that could/can change this?
    Maybe you haven't heard but the government hates androgens.

    We spent somewhere around 100million to take down BALCO and the boss there spent 4 months in minimum security prison. Sounds bad, right?

    And how about Lance Armstrong? That's got to be in the 10's of millions of tax payer dollars by now.

    It is utterly insane how much the government spends to go after androgens for so little payoff on their end.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TennTarheel View Post
    I know it was mentioned somewhere in here already, but now that you're a little further in the process, what is your estimated time of cutting the ribbon so to speak??
    What he said...

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    Quote Originally Posted by HRTstudent

    Maybe you haven't heard but the government hates androgens.

    We spent somewhere around 100million to take down BALCO and the boss there spent 4 months in minimum security prison. Sounds bad, right?

    And how about Lance Armstrong? That's got to be in the 10's of millions of tax payer dollars by now.

    It is utterly insane how much the government spends to go after androgens for so little payoff on their end.
    I agree 100%!!!!

    I would like to see which congressmen and women are on hormone replacement therapy, and that our govt insurance is paying for it

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    can you guys write scripts for canada? it takes me 6 months to get in to see my dr .............

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    i voted yes as it would be great to have a knowledgeable team to work with!

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    Again I ama 53 year old newbie ! I am 100% disabled and have a medicare replacement policy ! They are logicly not an A rated insurance Company since it is (Medicare Replacement) . I am in North GA. and I have just started with TRT with my GP/MD and my less than a Rated Ins. Company is paying "reasonable and customary" I still have to spend about $1500.00 a year out of pocket. Due to my low rating Insurance Company. That is still a $1000.00 but I only recieve Cyp At $25.00 per 10cc bottle and always owe another pmt towards office visit. and the special blood work cost AVG $200.00 per test. Taking all of this into consideration Ins would not be a deal breaker if you didn't require all the $$ up front for the years worth of treatment, blood work and, consultations, and reccommendation for Injectables from a really qualified Doctor and even the trip to Huston I would find a way and possible even go so far as to move close to your clinic. The Insurance just makes the pmts to the doctor either mthly and I get billed for what they don't cover and I can't see him again until the past due balance is payed.

    Why would your office not be able to accept insurance if my country doc form TX. can and even Medicare pays 60% and if I didn't get blood work as often as every 3 mths they would pay for 80% the majority of blood work 2 times a year and I have to pay 80% of any more than that as extra lab work.

    I just figured I am in the minority and Low T is the same as Diabeties ? A medical condition and as a matter of fact even more of a medical condition since diabeties can be controled by diet , exercise, and is a conditionin many cases contributed to by Low T . A Low T TRT clinic would save money for insurance companies by treating diabeties, High blood pressure, high colestroal, Cardiovascular conditions. Controling HRT will save their bottom line and if men take it seriously they will become more healthy and men like me may possibly come off of disability ? So many Positives and Lawyers say Ins will not pay ? None of my Business; but if not to personal can you share why Insurance would not cover I would be happy to furnish my medical records to prove the facts age 53 Low T of (78) and began treatment Oct. 29th 2012 . Only offer to assist in any way my medical condition may help you !
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    I keep having déjà vu. :-)

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    Please understand that we are working hard to make this as easy and as cheap as we can. Every day I work on this another door opens in our favor. I will keep you posted when something solid occurs. In order to be 100% legal and on the up and up, it is showing that these clinics need to be in your local area and will require 2 office visits a year to keep your scripts up to date. I KNOW many of you have seen many ways that others online are doing this, but I can assure you that after spending 10's of thousands of dollars on legal bills on this project, I have learned that these companies are NOT compliant and are only getting away with the way they are running their business because the powers that be have not pushed the issue. Its no secret that this website and its companies are very well known and on the radar. In order for this business to work, we need to make sure that we are not the ones that are made an example of. I am sure that we would make a PRIZE example for some big shot prosecutor if they could catch us doing something wrong. Your health care and our business model would suffer if we do not set this up the right way. We want to be around for a long time. Playing games with health care will only end up in disaster... for you and for us.

    We will continue to keep you posted, but I can tell you that we are making HUGE progress and we may be opened up quicker than expected. There may be some bad news though.... We may not be able to take out of state patients. The good news is, we are making a lot of connections with people who are eager to partner with us in many states. I WILL figure this out

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    Quote Originally Posted by system admin View Post
    Please understand that we are working hard to make this as easy and as cheap as we can. Every day I work on this another door opens in our favor. I will keep you posted when something solid occurs. In order to be 100% legal and on the up and up, it is showing that these clinics need to be in your local area and will require 2 office visits a year to keep your scripts up to date. I KNOW many of you have seen many ways that others online are doing this, but I can assure you that after spending 10's of thousands of dollars on legal bills on this project, I have learned that these companies are NOT compliant and are only getting away with the way they are running their business because the powers that be have not pushed the issue. Its no secret that this website and its companies are very well known and on the radar. In order for this business to work, we need to make sure that we are not the ones that are made an example of. I am sure that we would make a PRIZE example for some big shot prosecutor if they could catch us doing something wrong. Your health care and our business model would suffer if we do not set this up the right way. We want to be around for a long time. Playing games with health care will only end up in disaster... for you and for us.

    We will continue to keep you posted, but I can tell you that we are making HUGE progress and we may be opened up quicker than expected. There may be some bad news though.... We may not be able to take out of state patients. The good news is, we are making a lot of connections with people who are eager to partner with us in many states. I WILL figure this out
    quicker than expected is great news!

    should we have blood work done before hand?

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    Great news for people in Texas

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    So you might not be able to see patients out of state? I assume that's us British guys excluded then!

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    Make Northern California a priority!

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    Please and I mean PLEASE keep us up to date on your clinic... I have insurance but the deductible is so high I have to pay out of pocket for all medicine... It would be nice to be able to go some place that is familiar with whats going on, that is affordable. Plus I live in Houston!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by system admin View Post
    Please understand that we are working hard to make this as easy and as cheap as we can. Every day I work on this another door opens in our favor. I will keep you posted when something solid occurs. In order to be 100% legal and on the up and up, it is showing that these clinics need to be in your local area and will require 2 office visits a year to keep your scripts up to date. I KNOW many of you have seen many ways that others online are doing this, but I can assure you that after spending 10's of thousands of dollars on legal bills on this project, I have learned that these companies are NOT compliant and are only getting away with the way they are running their business because the powers that be have not pushed the issue. Its no secret that this website and its companies are very well known and on the radar. In order for this business to work, we need to make sure that we are not the ones that are made an example of. I am sure that we would make a PRIZE example for some big shot prosecutor if they could catch us doing something wrong. Your health care and our business model would suffer if we do not set this up the right way. We want to be around for a long time. Playing games with health care will only end up in disaster... for you and for us.

    We will continue to keep you posted, but I can tell you that we are making HUGE progress and we may be opened up quicker than expected. There may be some bad news though.... We may not be able to take out of state patients. The good news is, we are making a lot of connections with people who are eager to partner with us in many states. I WILL figure this out
    everything sounds good except for the out of state bit. i would be fairly sure even in this case, that a citizen of the united states can receive medical treatment for any medical condition from any medical specialist of their choice, regardless of location.

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    Thanks for the update!

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    Quote Originally Posted by system admin View Post
    The first will be in Houston. I have a plan to expand to 10 clinics in the most popular areas (states/cities), which will be determined by the locations of our clients who enter our first one.
    Los Angeles should be next!! =)

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    BUMP for more INFO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Any news on an estimated opening date for the Houston location ?

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    Sys Admin, I'm currently using the services of the LowT Clinics in the Dallas/Fort Worth area. Familiar with their services? How would your new service compare? Would your's provide me value I wouldn't (or couldn't) get from the LowT company? Thanks for any info to help me calculate my options.

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    February 1st is still the target date.

    Low T Center is $399.00 a month and you have to come in for injections 3-4 times a week, pay additional $ for HCG and/ or Anastrolzole, they do not take people under 350ng, and I do not think they prescribe more than a very small amount of Testosterone .

    Ours is $199 month including (NO set up fees or ANY hidden/extra charges) Doctor Consultation with understanding and helpful doctor, All Doctors Visits, ALL meds (shipped to you), syringes and supplies, all lab work (3 comprehensive tests annually), Diet and Training Programs, 24/7 Phone Medical Support, Access to your complete medical chart online, Free smart phone apps to track progress/order meds/ speak to nurses, and the comfort of knowing that WE are walking with you during this process and are making sure that you are treated as a valued client and not just a patient of a clinic. Also, you have the option to receive 100% of all necessary nutracuetical products ($3800 value) if you desire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 00ragincajun00 View Post
    quicker than expected is great news!

    should we have blood work done before hand?


    Blood work will be set up for you as part of the $199 a month. Once you call and sign up for the program, you will get a blood order.

    Bc

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    Hmmm... $199/mo is sounding better.
    LowT accepts BlueCross insurance so I pay $30 a week ($120/mo) (no extra for HCG or Anastrolzole)
    You are correct about the small amount. I am at 130mg and they already hinted at cutting back soon now that I'm at 549 and 15% free.
    I am wanting 200mg twice a week. "IF" they gave me that I would have to pay 2 copays ($240/mo) but I seriously doubt they would.
    The plus side to LowT is I don't have to mess with any of the bothers of self-injecting
    I like on-line access for tracking.
    I'm interested to learn the details and fine print. Thanks!

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    Is Houston still set to open Feb 1st? I'm off TRT since my docs were doing more harm than good and am waiting to make the 5 hour drive to Houston as soon as the doors open (or as soon as my bloodwork is done and the doors are open) please keep us updated!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorter
    HCG and Anastrozole isn't primarily used for TRT but it is an accepted off-label use, through insurance it can not be billed so that is why it isn't prescribed most often.
    Blue Cross has covered both for me. No problem.

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    How will you cater to the international market? It will be difficult for me to just hope ona plane to Houston for a consultation.

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    Los Angeles should be a gold mine full of hungry clients. Of course looking for friendly and knowledgeable service.

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    There is NO fine print. 199 a month and you will be covered for treatment the doctor prescribes for you PERIOD>

    We will help educate you on how to submit to your insurance.

    Meds are not shipped across state lines. You will be treated by a doctor in your area and the prescription will be written in your state and will be shipped by a pharmacy of which is licensed in your state. What we provide is not in the "grey" zone in anyway. Your local doctor will assess your treatment program and we will simply cover your treatment under our management services.

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    Its either self inject OR go to the doctor once or twice a week (twice typically for maximum TRT benefit). Most people who rely on a doctor to give injections each and every week will get very frustrated and often fall far behind on treatment protocol. I understand how stressful it can be to self inject, but once you learn how to do it, it will prove to be a much better way to approach your treatment AND you will find it to become a non-issue. The other option is Gel or Cream, (also covered in treatment program) however that comes with a lot of other issues such as absorption and contaminating your wife or children. Your doctor will advise you on these issues.

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    Would i be able to use my flex spending acct

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    This sounds great. Im not on hrt yet but of I ever do this will deffently be something for me. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalani9976 View Post
    Would i be able to use my flex spending acct
    I am not 100% sure, but I honestly think flex spending accounts would work. I will look into it further and get back to you. I do not see why you would not be able to use flex accounts since it is for your medical.

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    Sorry, didn't mean "fine print" as in something to hide. I meant in terms of the details. For example, dosage determined at doctors desecration. That could be hit and miss. I'm looking forward to reading the details and talking to staff...

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    No worries GO! I understand what you are saying. Since HRT/TRT is not a cookie cutter program, each patient will be different, but the doctors will be understanding and will be following the latest protocols proven to be the most effective. Many docs are still doing small dose injections every 10-14 days! That is CRAZY and will put you through a roller coaster ride of T and E levels. I do not want to be caught telling people exactly what the doctors will prescribe the patients so I need to be careful when I put things out there. Bottom line is that our clients will be introduced to doctors who are up to date on the latest and most effective protocols and are hand chosen by us to ensure they receive the best overall care. That is our pledge to our clients. We are hired to not only negotiate the BEST prices and services, but also to make sure our clients are taken care of from start to finish and we will interfere at any point if we think that they are not receiving the best treatment and service. Our company will follow along with you from every office visit, every blood test, and every prescription you are written.

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    Looking forward the the grand opening!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kalani9976 View Post
    Would i be able to use my flex spending acct
    That's what I do. I pay the TRT clinic cash and then use my FSA for reimbursement and file one big claim at the end of the year for everything. I'm not gonna chase after it and its not that big of a deal.

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    I noticed an ad on the from page of the website for www.lowtestosterone.com for $199/mo. I assume that is the same as this thread...correct? Is the kick off still Feb 1? What will the process be once kicked off? Will you have a doc in Sacramento area? Thanks

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