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    Sleep apnea

    Was diagnosed with low test over a year ago and have been back and forth from different endos, as they were confused with my results. (Wont give me them, I have asked). Last time I went to endo he said he wanted me to have a sleep study before any tredtment! due to the " confusing irregular results) anyway the sleep study showed 42 obstructions every hour! The endo said its like my brain isn't telly my testes to produce enough test, so anyway having my tonsils removed next week to see if it makes a difference!

    Anyone else had this issue and or cure?!?

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    If you live in USA its your right to ask for a copy of your BW results. By law they have to give it to you.

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    I live in uk had some results but still chasing the others! Had weeks of phoning everyday with nothing, they have also been asking for £25.00 per test.

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    i thought standard practice for sleep apnea was a CPAP , you must have tonsils like donkeys balls for them to get taken out before even trying one :P

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    What is your BF%?

    When I was over 20+% BF, my sleep apnea was terrible. I snored like a freight train. My GF couldnt sleep with me. It runs in the family, and is obviously weight related as everyone else with it is overweight as well.

    Now that I am around 12%, I do not snore nor do I have any issues with sleep apnea

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    Yeah, Noles, I've read a lot of papers on correlations between neck size and sleep apnea. I think it was at like 18" the chance of having sleep apnea rises greatly. And that was 18" whether it was mostly fat or if it was muscle. Either way there was far greater chance for obstructions and breathing interruptions during sleep than someone with a smaller neck

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    Quote Originally Posted by TennTarheel View Post
    Yeah, Noles, I've read a lot of papers on correlations between neck size and sleep apnea. I think it was at like 18" the chance of having sleep apnea rises greatly. And that was 18" whether it was mostly fat or if it was muscle. Either way there was far greater chance for obstructions and breathing interruptions during sleep than someone with a smaller neck
    Interesting, I'll have to look into that. I had almost a 19 inch neck at 280 and now at 230 it is around 17 1/2.

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    Yeah, mine was 19.5" in college and although I was really lean, our team physician told me I was still a candidate for having sleep apnea. I never understood that so I started looking into it. I only weighed like 205 at the time

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    Whoa whoa whoa, you got diagnosed with sleep apnea and the first thing he wants to try is taking your tonsils out? I would definitely try CPAP therapy first. It may help your testoserone numbers but no guarantees that it gets you back to optimal. I have both sleep apnea and low T myself and am on therapy for both.

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    I have put on some weight since the low test was diagnosed, and to be honest I felt and slept much better when I was lighter, I'd say my bf is over 25 at the moment!! It's a vicous circle! Not sure if my sleep disorder has caused the low test or the other way round!

    My tonsils are big and always have been, dad and brother both had there's removed, the doc said cpap is a life long treatment, I'm going to have tonsils removed and hopefully get some trt then try and lose some weight as my efforts so far haven't been working! Infact it's been the opposite!

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    A CPAP isn't necessarily lifelong. You would only have to use it until you lost weight and the apnea went away. Sleep apnea does way more than cause lowered test levels. It has been shown to cause all sorts of health issues such as heart failure, diabetes, fatigue, etc. Because you stop breathing so much, and you wake up so many times during the night, you never actually get good sleep so it wreaks havoc on the body. You could just use the CPAP until you figure out if it is in fact your tonsils or if ends up being your weight, whereas in that case you would need to use it anyways, tonsils or not. Did any of that make sense? Felt like I might have rambled

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    Yeah I mean do what you think is right but just know that CPAP therapy is not a big deal. I don't even notice it anymore. I love my mask and it makes SUCH a difference in sleep quality. Without it I would be waking up 10 times as much.

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    Has anybody had there tonsils removed as an adult with or without sleep apnea? I'm hoping its going to help my sleeping as I feel like a zombie and can't be arsed doing anything, my libido is none existent and I generally feel like life's not worth living!

    Not looking forward to the pain either as ive read that is bad!!

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    I've been on TRT since late February, but was still constantly lethargic, tired, depressed, constant insomnia etc. I'm a type 2 diabetic, and obese. My endo recommended I be tested for sleep apnea, and it was discovered that my breathing during sleep was obstructed/interrupted 72 times per hour. So I was diagnosed with a severe case of sleep apnea.

    I was put on C.P.A.P. therapy using a ResMed S9 machine, and in the month and a half since I began, my breathing during sleep interruptions/obstructions have gone down to 2.5 times per hour. Not to mention I sleep great, don't have to get up 5 x a night to piss, and my energy level is slowly coming around.

    I'm planning on restarting my weight lifting/cardio regimen, and to lose a severe amount of weight.

    But it's just great not to feel constantly tired! (Although that hasn't gone away entirely.)

    One thing I did notice is that if I turn off my computer at least a couple of hours before I go to bed, I fall asleep much faster...almost immediately, than if I stay on the computer right until I go to bed. Don't know if that has any significance to anything, but it might be worth a shot.

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    Had my tonsils removed 10 days ago, can`t notice anything as yet but my throat is still sore and inflamed, so probably wont benefit for a while or atleast untill i`m healed fully.

    I recently got some blood test results back (well not the results but an analasis) and the doctor has said my most recent blood test shows there is nothing wrong with my testosterone levels altho my test is at the lower level it is still within the "normal range"

    I have`nt changed in anyway with all my symptoms, I`m now worried that my endo wont treat me for all my issues, I`m going to see them again mid december.

    Any ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killergoalie View Post
    I've been on TRT since late February, but was still constantly lethargic, tired, depressed, constant insomnia etc. I'm a type 2 diabetic, and obese. My endo recommended I be tested for sleep apnea, and it was discovered that my breathing during sleep was obstructed/interrupted 72 times per hour. So I was diagnosed with a severe case of sleep apnea.

    I was put on C.P.A.P. therapy using a ResMed S9 machine, and in the month and a half since I began, my breathing during sleep interruptions/obstructions have gone down to 2.5 times per hour. Not to mention I sleep great, don't have to get up 5 x a night to piss, and my energy level is slowly coming around.

    I'm planning on restarting my weight lifting/cardio regimen, and to lose a severe amount of weight.

    But it's just great not to feel constantly tired! (Although that hasn't gone away entirely.)

    One thing I did notice is that if I turn off my computer at least a couple of hours before I go to bed, I fall asleep much faster...almost immediately, than if I stay on the computer right until I go to bed. Don't know if that has any significance to anything, but it might be worth a shot.
    Great to hear you are feeling better bro. It is posited that your eyes interpret the light from your monitor as sunlight and therefore signal the body that it is still daytime and not time to go to sleep. Most sleep specialists recommend not looking at any screens for several hours before your planned bed time as well as not doing anything exciting or stimulating.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xtitan1 View Post
    Great to hear you are feeling better bro. It is posited that your eyes interpret the light from your monitor as sunlight and therefore signal the body that it is still daytime and not time to go to sleep. Most sleep specialists recommend not looking at any screens for several hours before your planned bed time as well as not doing anything exciting or stimulating.
    Thanks bro! Yeah it makes such a difference. Funny thing though, I can watch TV right up until I go to bed, and I can fall asleep no prob. Esp if I watch something that I've seen before. But the lack of staring at the computer monitor has made a huge difference. So with this idea of not doing anything exciting or stimulating...does that mean I could interpret it that if the GF just "lays there" while I do all the work, to mean that she wants to fall asleep rather quickly, so she doesn't want to get "into it"? LOL!

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