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10-24-2012, 01:05 AM #1Junior Member
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Still having problems, should I stop TRT??
Hi everybody, been a long time lurker but finally decided to join and get some input from all of the experienced members on here. Sorry in advance for the long post, just trying to give a good history along with blood work. So here goes:
I have always felt tired and could sleep at any time of the day. I have been working out since high school and very seriously since I was 20. Started to notice that around age 24 it was hard to add muscle without fat and when dieting down I always lost a ton of size and strength without getting as lean as I wanted. Got random blood work done while in graduate school at age 27 (can’t find original labs) and my total testosterone was 248 ng/dl. I will post all labs at the end of my post. So I went to a wellness center to get blood work again and my test levels came back lower than they should for a 27 year old but within limits. The doc wanted me to try taking armour because my reverse T3 was high and he said that could be causing my low test levels. I decided not to take any medication and attributed my tiredness to stress from graduate school and some other life events.
A short while after this I got a divorce. I then started dating a girl who I was friends with and things were great and we loved each other very much. Only problem was I started to have slight ED (erection was softer than I thought it should be), so I self medicated with cialis and things were great. Fast forward to graduation and I was planning on moving to be with my girl and marry her. She left a little before me to get things ready and when I was on my way to join her I found out she was murdered and was devastated.
So, 5 months later I went to a wellness clinic with the afore mentioned symptoms and got new blood work. He said same thing as previous docs, test levels lower than should be but within range. We decided to begin TRT with 120 mg cyp split into 60 mg twice a week with 250 IU’s HCG twice a week and .25 mg adex twice a week. I felt great and had spectacular results in gym. I was finally as lean as I always wanted and had good size (205lbs at 12%BF at 6ft) and better energy. I accomplished this with a 40/40/20 diet at 2300 cals/ day with one re-feed day a week of 3000cals.
After about 3 months of this I meet my current girlfriend and was nervous because of past ED so started with cialis from day one with her. Things were ok but still had ED sometimes, even with TRT. I think most of it was mental but not sure. I stopped TRT after 7 months because I thought maybe my test levels did not require the lifelong decision of TRT. Did 8 weeks of PCT recommended by swifto with tamox/torm. Got blood work 3 weeks post PCT (prob too soon, so #’s might be higher) and things looked ok, but still felt crappy. Gained fat, lost muscle and ED worse than ever even with cialis.
So after being off TRT 7 months started up TRT again (been 8wks now) and feel great in gym, gained size back and lean again. But ED is still there if I don’t use cialis. So maybe TRT is not the answer. I understand that it could be mental (still dealing with my ex’s murder, moving , in between jobs so money is tight, ect) but I have taken cialis for so long that I can barely function without it even on TRT. I’m only 31 years old. Any help would be much appreciated!!
One more thing, when I was 19-23 I abused prohormones without proper PCT thinking it was not needed since they were not the real thing (young and stupid). So not sure what to do: stop PCT again and get new BW 6 wks after PCT and then see an endo, look into thyroid or who knows what??Last edited by focus; 10-24-2012 at 11:40 AM. Reason: spelling
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