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    Need advice on tren and need for trt

    So my doc is prescribing me test. I just started using trenbolone acsetate. How much test cyp. Do I need per week. I'm doing tren at 100 mg eod

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    There is a serious lack of information in your post, or an abundance of vagueness, either way you look at it there is nothing we can say or do in response to this post that would be valid.

    How about some stats, blood work, goals, some history, a little about your doc and cycle history. Give us something to work with bro.

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    Second what JD said...need much more information and blood work with ranges please.

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    X 2 both above posts. I read your post as your on TRT and now you've started Tren A, right? If so there's nothing wrong with just maintaining your normal TRT dosage as Tren is literally 5 times stronger than Test. If I'm wrong and you're doing Tren A on its own that is not good as you need test as a base for this. But quite honestly, if your asking these questions you should not have started this just yet. There is no need for Tren in TRT unless or course for blasting.

    Go to the AAS Q & A forum and read Atomini's Sticky Thread "Everything You Want To Know about Tren" as it will answer all of your questions. It is extremely thorough and well written.

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    Ok this is my first cycle in ten years. I'm 30 y/o. 5'7 170 lbs. I work out 5-6 days a week and I just want to get a little bigger. My test level was 370. My doc said its low so he's prescribing me test injections. My blood work and hormones r normal. Yes I did start the tren last week. I'm looking to kinda find out a dosage I should do of the test i should do With out telling my doc I'm doing tren.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamfox View Post
    Ok this is my first cycle in ten years. I'm 30 y/o. 5'7 170 lbs. I work out 5-6 days a week and I just want to get a little bigger. My test level was 370. My doc said its low so he's prescribing me test injections. My blood work and hormones r normal. Yes I did start the tren last week. I'm looking to kinda find out a dosage I should do of the test i should do With out telling my doc I'm doing tren.
    It's probably a good idea to get a good handle on TRT before you start cycling.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamfox View Post
    Ok this is my first cycle in ten years. I'm 30 y/o. 5'7 170 lbs. I work out 5-6 days a week and I just want to get a little bigger. My test level was 370. My doc said its low so he's prescribing me test injections. My blood work and hormones r normal. Yes I did start the tren last week. I'm looking to kinda find out a dosage I should do of the test i should do With out telling my doc I'm doing tren.
    Your 30, have not cycled in ten yrs and you have low test? Am I the only one who finds this a little suspect?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironbeck View Post
    Your 30, have not cycled in ten yrs and you have low test? Am I the only one who finds this a little suspect?
    I dont think it's suspect. I think he just needs guidance. Hopefully we can see bloodwork soon to provide assistance.

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    Yeah I was kinda thinking the same thing about doing the test for a little bit first. I was just real excited when I got the tren in. It was hard not to start it. But yes I had my yearly check up and I had my doc do a hormone and test check. Because me and my wife r having trouble getting her pregnant. And my doc said my t was low? So he sent me to a urologist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamfox View Post
    Yeah I was kinda thinking the same thing about doing the test for a little bit first. I was just real excited when I got the tren in. It was hard not to start it. But yes I had my yearly check up and I had my doc do a hormone and test check. Because me and my wife r having trouble getting her pregnant. And my doc said my t was low? So he sent me to a urologist.
    If you are trying for a kid I would def. not be injecting Tren ! Or any 19 nor's for that matter. They are notorious for hard shutdown of your LH and FSH which is your sperm production. If you only injected for a week I would just stop injections and stick with your TRT. What were your LH and fSH numbers?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamfox View Post
    Yeah I was kinda thinking the same thing about doing the test for a little bit first. I was just real excited when I got the tren in. It was hard not to start it. But yes I had my yearly check up and I had my doc do a hormone and test check. Because me and my wife r having trouble getting her pregnant. And my doc said my t was low? So he sent me to a urologist.
    Well, I would certainly hold off on the tren. It won't go bad. Just save it for later. Please read this thread: http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...ou-should-know.

    Improper cycling can make issues even more difficult for you.

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    Ok. Obviously u can tell I only did a little research on this stuff. I just thought if I was using tren and test that I would not hinder my hormones to much. Like I was saying before. I just got excited to get bigger and I didn't want to wait any longer. But I'm getting the point I need to do a little more research. Thanks to everyone replying. U guys r very honest and knowledgable.

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    I'm not sure what the Lh and fsh numbers where.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamfox View Post
    Ok. Obviously u can tell I only did a little research on this stuff. I just thought if I was using tren and test that I would not hinder my hormones to much. Like I was saying before. I just got excited to get bigger and I didn't want to wait any longer. But I'm getting the point I need to do a little more research. Thanks to everyone replying. U guys r very honest and knowledgable.
    Good call brother. You're VERY young and have plenty of time to bulk Right now, focus on your family and get a good handle on your TRT.

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    Totally understandable to want to be bigger, some of these guys know a lot about tren and can give you the good and the bad about using it. Many of us on TRT have made the mistake of cycling or blasting too soon, it's a bad idea as far as getting your hormones in order.

    I'm curious about this doc starting you on test.........is that all he prescribed? What did he say as far as reasoning for it? Not to pry but this seems interesting that he would just say "here take some test it will help you get your wife pregnant".

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    Also interesting, the doc said your Test is low but your hormones are fine? Tren is extremely quick to shut your hpta down. Have you done much research on testosterone or hormones at all?

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    The only thing he prescribed is test he did blood work. And urine and sprem samples. Yeah he said hormones looked fine. No I really haven't done a ton of research. I was just going with what the doc said.

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    I would assume you will be going back in for BW in the near future for your doc to review. Tren is not test and will not show up on BW as such but it can still skew various other BW numbers. Stick to your prescribed TRT dosage for now and set the tren in a drawer for later. Read the stickies to self-educate a bit and paruse the forums here. You can really learn a lot from the guys here.

    Get dialed in on your TRT. It really does take some time. Eventually you'll be needing HCG and possibly an AI as well. In otherwords, it's a marathon, not a sprint. If you want to get bigger, examine your diet and training. Let the guys in the Nutrition Forum take a look at what you eat and help you out. Free nutritionists there at your service!

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    ^^^^^^ Fantastic advice!!!! You really need more bloodwork, so many unknowns in your case.

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    Well said Kel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    X 2 both above posts. I read your post as your on TRT and now you've started Tren A, right? If so there's nothing wrong with just maintaining your normal TRT dosage as Tren is literally 5 times stronger than Test. If I'm wrong and you're doing Tren A on its own that is not good as you need test as a base for this. But quite honestly, if your asking these questions you should not have started this just yet. There is no need for Tren in TRT unless or course for blasting.

    Go to the AAS Q & A forum and read Atomini's Sticky Thread "Everything You Want To Know about Tren" as it will answer all of your questions. It is extremely thorough and well written.

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    I have been reading that Sticky by Atomini on Tren, It's pretty good but clearly he doesn't know much about TRT as he is constantly stating that TRT doses of test should not cause any high amounts of aromatization and that you shouldn't need an AI on TRT levels of Test.

    I really wish that was the case but as we all know.. TRT doses for the most part do require taking an AI at some point until or IF you get everything dialed in.

    I can really see how someone with no experience with doing a cycle or being on TRT can get massively confused like JamFox

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    I'll have to re-read but I do recall something to that effect as well. And yes you are absolutely correct, the majority of TRT'ers do need an AI. Some of us don't and are very lucky in that respect.

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    Does this darn guy ever give bad advise^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^?

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