2 questions about testicular atrophy

[harley121]

Hello all, just had 2 quick questions re TRT therapy and atrophy.
Im 47, 16%bf, 5'6" and 174lb and been on TRT- 100mg Test C/ wk for a year. Neither the Dr. or I knew about HGC until I discovered this forum. So, Im working on him to write a RX for HGC. In the mean time:

1. Do they ever just get to a point and stop atrophying, or do they just shrivel up to nothing at some point?
2. Since they have been shut down for a year now, will they " bounce back"- haha. to their orig size once I start injecting HGC?

[HRTstudent]

They "should" bounce back, but there are never 100%'s in medicine.

Also, it seems that for most people the atrophy has a limit, but that limit for some people seems to range. Some people talk about small grapes and even smaller... so there is definitely some variability in the trophy end point. If you aren't seeing more atrophy after a year it's probably reasonable to assume that's where you will end up.

Of course, for some people who are 60+ I imagine it is different than those in their 30's. They might get more shrinkage just because of more progresses aging processes.

[harley121]

Well, I am happily married to a hot wife and the right part works well, esp w/ the TRT, however I would not like to look like a 5 year old again . Thanks for the input, Am I reading you right that they will never be back to 100% the size they were b4 TRT? Just being back almost that size and not acheing anymore would be nice. Im pushing for the Hgc w/ Dr.
Here's a question, how do I not piss off the Dr yet show him the article on HGC in the sticky here and tell him I need this? He is very cautious and gets nervous when he feels he has to give another drug to offset the initial treatment. I have been going to him for over 15 years, he s a good guy, good internist, but very conservative.

[junk2222yard]

Here's a question, how do I not piss off the Dr yet show him the article on HGC in the sticky here and tell him I need this? He is very cautious and gets nervous when he feels he has to give another drug to offset the initial treatment.

That is what I did. I literally printed the sticky on hCG from here. I cut and pasted it into Word, added some formatting to make it look a bit better, and printed it out. Then I highlighted the recommendation. Gave that to my doctor without sounding demanding but explaining I would like to follow the recommendation I found in my "research". If he said no, I would have strted looking for another doctor. But he didn't. Good luck.

[harley121]

Sounds like a good idea. Im on it

[bass]

yes they should bounce back like HRT noted. mine are back at 80% and thats it, without hCG they latterly disappear!

[harley121]

Yeah, Im wondering where its going to stop. Starting to get a little concerned at this point that thats where its heading- haha- kind of

[harley121]

yes they should bounce back like HRT noted. mine are back at 80% and thats it, without hCG they latterly disappear!

Just as a side note, how exactly did we arrive at the 80% figure
, were there calipers involved?

[bass]

Just as a side note, how exactly did we arrive at the 80% figure
, were there calipers involved?

LOL, no just an estimate. All I know they are smaller!

[harley121]

LOL, no just an estimate. All I know they are smaller!

Did you start hCG right when you started TRT or at a later time?

[bass]

Did you start hCG right when you started TRT or at a later time?

3 months after TRT, perhaps a big mistake!

[harley121]

Well, my next Dr. visit is end of Nov. so it will be almost a year since I first started TRT- first w/ the creams, etc. that didnt work.
Well, I think Ill hold off on the caliper measurements till the hcg kicks in for awhile so I don't get depressed

[junk2222yard]

Just as a side note, how exactly did we arrive at the 80% figure
, were there calipers involved?

I was on HRT for 2 months before adding hCG . I would guess my balls shrank to 80% of what they were. No calipers involved in this estimate either, but rather my wife was able to get them both in her mouth, whereas before that was not possible.

[harley121]

I was on HRT for 2 months before adding hCG . I would guess my balls shrank to 80% of what they were. No calipers involved in this estimate either, but rather my wife was able to get them both in her mouth, whereas before that was not possible.

Aaaahhh... the mouthometer.. excellent measurement device, very accurate!

[fit2bOld]

You will feel a lot better on the HCG in the achy/shrinking balls dept. Print that article describe your symptoms and and ask to try it for a couple months. Once he sees it works your all set.

[Bonaparte]

You'll have an easier time getting your prescription filled if you spell the acronym correctly.