Clomiphene citrate is safe and effective for long-term management of hypogonadism.

[dreadnok89]

Well that blows why even take it if you don't feel any better

I don't think his problem his problem is a lot deeper than hrt

[PJS19]

I didnt feel better on clomid. It may have upped my libido a bit, but didnt touch my depression, which is my main symptom. And I have this weird blur in my right eye that I didnt have before clomid. It started about a week after I stopped, and has been persistent even though Ive been off it for almost 3 months.

[powerlifterty16]

I don't think his problem his problem is a lot deeper than hrt

why do you say that?

[powerlifterty16]

I didnt feel better on clomid. It may have upped my libido a bit, but didnt touch my depression, which is my main symptom. And I have this weird blur in my right eye that I didnt have before clomid. It started about a week after I stopped, and has been persistent even though Ive been off it for almost 3 months.

that sucks. i didnt get any side effects, good or bad from clomid. i was terrified id go blind, but I didnt notice vision problems. So are you on trt, and how do you feel?

[powerlifterty16]

Well that blows why even take it if you don't feel any better

lol, you and I have discussed through pm. remember? I'd rather have higher t levels, because it's more healthy. it also takes time to notice any changes. I would like to see what long term hcg does. I also have noticed im more assertive on hcg, and i do notice a slight decrease in migraines, and also a little increase in strength, and I just got a cold, on monday, and it's nearly gone today, which is fast for me. It also was a mild cold.
I also like poking myself with needles and feeling like a drug addict lol.

[Java Man]

Here is a clinical trial that looks interesting but won't have published results until next year.

Clomid in Men With Low Testosterone With and Without Prior Treatment - Full Text View - ClinicalTrials.gov

[dreadnok89]

why do you say that?

Only because when you had good numbers you still feel the way you do

[powerlifterty16]

Only because when you had good numbers you still feel the way you do

my numbers were ok, not great. i only had 631 tt on clomid lol...also dr crisler says that even when the numbers are equal, men on clomid or hcg , don't feel the same benefits as men on trt.

[dreadnok89]

my numbers were ok, not great. i only had 631 tt on clomid lol...also dr crisler says that even when the numbers are equal, men on clomid or hcg, don't feel the same benefits as men on trt.

I'm thinking because of the raised estrogen.