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    pjbandit is offline Junior Member
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    thinking about switching to sub q for test adds going to twice a week

    Can anyone recommend the syringes they would use? I use a 31 gauge insulin needle for hcg and use a 25 gauge 5/8" intra muscular for test currently.

    Im a big guy so have fat around the midsection, I don't know if that factors into needle size I should use if I go sq for test.

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    25x5/8 should be fine for SQ.

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    Could I go to a smaller gauge? I would like to

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    For sure man!

    I have used 31g 29g 28g

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    ^^Exactly. Whatever your comfortable with basically for SQ. Take a look at Crislers video on SQ injections. It's still on the main page here. You mentioned a 25ga 5/8 for I.M. injections? Unless your very lean where you're injecting you should at least be using a 1" syringe for IM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel
    ^^Exactly. Whatever your comfortable with basically for SQ. Take a look at Crislers video on SQ injections. It's still on the main page here. You mentioned a 25ga 5/8 for I.M. injections? Unless your very lean where you're injecting you should at least be using a 1" syringe for IM.
    That's what I am worried about...but I do the injection in my delt which I think is ok at 5/8" for IM??

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    For the delt, 5/8" SHOULD definitely get into muscle

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    Quote Originally Posted by pjbandit View Post
    That's what I am worried about...but I do the injection in my delt which I think is ok at 5/8" for IM??
    Agree with Tenn. It SHOULD as long as your lean there. You have to be the judge.

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    Hey Guys, thanks for all the info as usual. I am thinking to make the switch next week. After raising my test to 140/wk and having my E2 raise, I definitely did get side effects that I dont want to deal with.

    I dropped back down to 100/mg week of test. My current protocol is:

    Mon Morning - 250iu HCG
    Tue Morning - 250iu HCG
    Wed Morning - 100/mg T-CYP
    Thurs Morning - .25 Mg Liquidex (just did this first time this past Thursday).

    Also have B12 injectable that I would like to add into the top protocol. Was actually going to do this today (now).

    If I switch next week to twice a week sub Q, what do you guys recommend as a protocol and timeline?

    Thanks for all the help.

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    i use 25g 5/8" for sub q or IM and it is no probs. love handle area for sub q is too easy! i also dont pinch after watching the video..

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    Do your T mon a.m. and thurs p.m. or something similar. You can do your hcg the day before each. Stick with it for a month and then re-test your E2 and see how it's going. Adjust if needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel
    Do your T mon a.m. and thurs p.m. or something similar. You can do your hcg the day before each. Stick with it for a month and then re-test your E2 and see how it's going. Adjust if needed.
    Thanks, that sounds pretty good to me...what about adding in the b12 to this mix??

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    Also, should I do the ai following the days I do the t-cyp?

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