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11-21-2012, 06:23 PM #1
Anavar and low SHBG!
guys, i have some anavar left from my last script, but i have very low SHBG, do you think its okay to run anavar at 20mgs per day for two months? anavar is known to lower SHBG even more. any thoughts?
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11-21-2012, 06:37 PM #2
I don't think 20mg per day would be worth it Bass, considering your shbg runs around 10 if I recall correctly? It also can increase your LDL a bit. But again, at such a low dose......who knows.
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11-21-2012, 10:11 PM #3
If you remember Kel, I was taking 40 mgs ed and my BP went up, at the time you suggested to do 20 mgs per day. Not sure what was your reasoning back then, but for me just looking for extra help to lose some fat. I guess my question is, do I have to worry about shbg at 20 mgs a day?
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04-26-2014, 07:20 PM #4New Member
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Hello, sorry to wake a dead thread but, I have to... I will keep researching but I am kind of in a crunch here, one for being ignorant and two, because I am inpatient..
I have a Dr. wanting to give me Anavar and he said it was to release the bound testosterone . My SHBG is at 71.2 which from what he tells me is why my free test is at 5.7 and my Serum is at 585. 585 is not bad for me, trust me... but, I want to take some Test to to get that number up and I also want to free up some more of the bound Test. Will Anavar do that? I have read no where stating that fact, as of yet. Until I came across this thread anyway...I will also be taking HCG and Anastrozole during my Test cyp, cycle. Just can't figure out if me taking Anavar is necessary...
I am 46
5' 9"
225
25% bf (guess) probably higher.
I am not looking to become a body builder, I am an over the road truck driver. Just want to get back in better shape and get my hormones where they should be.
Thanks
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04-26-2014, 08:07 PM #5
Your dr is willing to prescribed you anavar !
Shut up and take it!!
Take as much as he possibly can offer you!!
About your shbg Vitamin D is a must, and almost any AAS will work, so test cyp will work, var will work too, the question is, will it stay down afterward.
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04-26-2014, 08:48 PM #6New Member
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LMAO... I hear you man, I really do but, I an not one to just take something because a Dr. is willing to give it to me. Hell, I would rather get from the Dr and sell it to you...if it does me no good. Not to mention, it is expensive for what it may or may not do, for me. Two questions for you, what is AAS and will "what" stay down?
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04-27-2014, 04:59 AM #7
I had similar issue(high SHBG), I did a cycle in hope to drop it,( a bit like your dr is offering). My dr refuse to do anything...
Went good, gained well, felt better, but when came time to PCT even if my Lh/FSH were in respectfull range my SHBG was still high my test free was under 300...
It didnt stay down...
Dropping your SHBG is not that hard, its keeping it low the hard part.
Your dr probably think that anavar wont shut you down, which BTW is stupid.
Your SHBG may go down but if you dont do a proper post cycle your total test will be lower.
Its like 10% of 1000 or 40% of 400
More at the end still your total is lower.
P.s.: AAS = anabolic androgenic steroids
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04-27-2014, 06:09 PM #8
var will definitely lower your SHBG very quickly, but the safest way as mention above is vitamin D, just as good lower SHBG and raising free T. if you take the var then make sure you take liver support like NAC, although they say its mild (misconception) it is still an oral steroids and can screw up your liver with high doses. I took 40 mgs ED and liver enzymes went up quite a bit, also screwed up my lipids, so be careful and monitor your BP, anavar is still a powerful drug.
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04-27-2014, 07:25 PM #9
Good advice above.
Question. What's your estrogen level?
I'm guessing it may be high based on your estimated 25% BF level. If so, know that SHBG will rise as your estrogen increases. Which brings to mind simply changing your nutritional habits first and foremost before adding pharmaceuticals. Vit D as suggested above as well as Stinging Nettle Root or Avenacosides will help you. Know that SHBG rises with age. Simply reducing your Estrogen level to normal levels (if high) will in turn elevate your test level.
Know your Vit D level before starting on a protocol as even though most are inherently low, too much can be toxic to you as it's fat soluble. Take it with food for better absorption.
Testosterone , first and foremost is the quickest way to suppress SHBG but it's not a means to an end. It's temporary at best. Your doctor could also prescribe you Danazol to lower it but again, it's a temp fix. If you do add testosterone then you a host of new issues to deal with along the way not counting PCT. In other words, it may be more than you bargained for. Cycling at a higher level of body fat is never recommended.
Consider some nutritional changes to lower body fat and the aforementioned supplements mentioned by me and the guys.Last edited by kelkel; 04-27-2014 at 07:28 PM.
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04-27-2014, 08:25 PM #10New Member
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I sincerely appreciate all the feedback and I will do my best to keep you all interested in helping me. Also, forgive me for not knowing the acronyms yet, had to take some time to learn them in the Army as well, will take me a minute to learn them here too.
I have been hearing about the new miracle vitamin, Vitamin D, for some time now but, have never heard it will lower your SHBG, in fact, I have never heard of SHBG until I got my BW done. Anyway, my Estradiol is 30 pg/mL, and the range, according to LapCorp, is 11-44 for an adult male. I don't know what my D is, not on the BW report. In fact, I have learned by reading on here that I should have had a few other things looked at, like LH & FSH & DHEA, but none of those are on the chart either.
I agree with KelKel 100%, I need to get in better shape, no doubt about it, and I also know that will change my hormones in the positive direction as well. It's not easy for me, an Over-The-Road truck driver that spends 4 weeks at a time on the road and goes home for 4 days, than all over again. I am about to start my own company and in time, I will be able to control my time better than I do now. For now, I can do very little exercise but, I can control my intake of nutrients and that is where my focus is going to be from now on.
What is PCT? I will guess; Post Cycle .....
qscgugcsq mentions post cycle,,,haven't heard anything about this from Dr,,,yet. Maybe he was going to tell me when he,,,hold on. Let me set this straight, I am not talking to a Dr. I am talking to a go-between from FL. He works for a company called Hormone Logistics, and the pharmacy is Hoye's Pharmacy,,,which I still need to check on them. Anyway, I am suppose to get a script but they will sell me the products from Hoye's, and send them to me via snail mail. So far, I have paid them $200 for the BW and had that done. Now that I have that out of the way....
What I am trying to accomplish here is to make sure I don't take something I don't need. Anavar is expensive and from what I read is more dangerous than the risk is worth. Danazol,,, wow, just read that and it is for woman as well...lol Not sure what would be worse. Okay, so Vitamin D is the best choice??? I probably would just take Anavar and keep an eye on my BW but damn it is expensive. I have read about Nettle and Saw Palmetto as well, should I take Nettle, Saw Palmetto and Vitamin D? I can buy all them from a vitamin store or off line... I bet all three are cheaper than a cycle of Anavar.Last edited by SheepDog#1; 04-27-2014 at 08:32 PM. Reason: grammer
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04-28-2014, 10:38 AM #11
As far as my reading goes, danazol do not supress your HPTA(no.pct needed), help reducing SHBG.
And gives no benefit whatsoever in term of.libido/mass gain/fat loss except for the free test released...
Thats why you wont fin dit anywhere in UGL, but getting that prescribed could greatly help.
Also my endo tested my liver and thyroid to see if they were the cause of my High SHBG.
Was not that for me but it may worth a shot for you.
Good luck
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