Dilute your testosterone injection under HRT?

[dabigcheese]

Without getting into too much detail, I am going to start a TRT protocol averaging 175 mgs/week. I will use the Schering Testoviron Depot (250) for this. The question is whether I can inject 250 every 10 days or should inject 125 every 5 days. For the latter, the only way to do it would be to dilute the 250 injection - this I have never done while using gear. Is this something anyone has tried doing and have they been able to do this successfully? If I inject 250 every 10 days, it will be much more difficult to maintain an even concentration in the blood.

I am an experienced steroid user and have used them in limited cycles for muscle gain before. This time, however, the aim is to regain my libido which has been dead for four years. The physicians here in Europe are worse than useless. So I have two choices: (1) continue to see a useless psychotherapist, shell out thousands every year with zero improvement to anything; or (2) do TRT on my own.

Thanks!

[MickeyKnox]

Perhaps i misunderstood, but why dilute? Instead of using the whole 250 = 1ML, why don't you simply use less ie: 125mg = .5ML?

[dabigcheese]

Very good point. Only because it is easier to get the half ml wrong on the needle.

[MickeyKnox]

Very good point. Only because it is easier to get the half ml wrong on the needle.

Piece of cake.

[lovbyts]

Why are you diluting it? Just use .7 ml and that gives you 175 mg.

Obviously I took to long to respond. lol

[dabigcheese]

LOL! Then I go with 0.6 ml every six days - that's easier to do (3 clicks on the tube).

[MickeyKnox]

LOL! Then I go with 0.6 ml every six days - that's easier to do (3 clicks on the tube).

Splitting the difference? That works.

[lovbyts]

OK then lets confuse things more (since it's easy) and take into account how much is actually left in the needle and drop in the syringe when the plunger is down all the way... LOL

Kidding, dont over think things.

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

After much debate on this forum around the middle of Oct. before, when and during my 1st week. My Doc said 1cc every other week and I have been level at est. .25cc in the pin. Syringe is in ml and my 53 yr old mind is in cc's . So the best I can figure I my guessing at the half way point between 2nd and 3rd line . Am I really only getting less than .1cc in my body ? I inject Sat and Wed .25 would I see better results to go to .5cc 1 x a week and not waste as much ? I have a 10 mL bottle/10cc and in my doctor's mind that is supposed to last 20 weeks. I did stupid cycles in my 20's and I have never dreamed of taking such a small amount ? Now 53 and Test level at last blood work was (78) ?

Oh I forgot ; only 200mL Cyp.

I hope an experienced member reads this and will offer support, please ?

[Lunk1]

After much debate on this forum around the middle of Oct. before, when and during my 1st week. My Doc said 1cc every other week and I have been level at est. .25cc in the pin. Syringe is in ml and my 53 yr old mind is in cc's . So the best I can figure I my guessing at the half way point between 2nd and 3rd line . Am I really only getting less than .1cc in my body ? I inject Sat and Wed .25 would I see better results to go to .5cc 1 x a week and not waste as much ? I have a 10 mL bottle/10cc and in my doctor's mind that is supposed to last 20 weeks. I did stupid cycles in my 20's and I have never dreamed of taking such a small amount ?

Oh I forgot ; only 200mL Cyp.

I hope an experienced member reads this and will offer support, please ?

See if I can make sense of this? You have Test C that is 200mg/ML and the Doc said use 1cc eow? Then you could use .5cc EW or .25cc 2X per week. With Cyp you will be just fine using the .5 cc per week (that would be my suggestion given Cyp's long half life)

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

I was doing .5cc for the 1st week and I had others opinion to go to .25 I have been .25 for 6 to 8 injection I now would prefer to go to .5cc every Thurs that would only be skip my Wed injection of .25 . I had .25 yesterday Sat. and start .5cc Thurs would be OK ?

I have changed routine 2 times already ? However I am poking a lot and wasting a lot I think ?

Please a couple of others weight in on these thoughts !

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

Wow ! That last thread I was reading really got ppl involved !

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

up help plz ?

[kelkel]

.25 x 2 per week will provide more stable serum levels than .5 once per week. Hopefully the more stable levels and less injected will also contribute to NOT having to use an AI, if you currently do. Meaning less spike in E2. Less is better with AI's and using zero is priceless.

BMP it's really just a matter of preference. You will be fine either way, it's just based on how you feel in conjunction with periodic blood work to analyze results. Pick one and stick with it until your next BW and evaluate. We will always help you here.

kel

ps: above theory applies to the op's original question as well.

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

.25 x 2 per week will provide more stable serum levels than .5 once per week. Hopefully the more stable levels and less injected will also contribute to NOT having to use an AI, if you currently do. Meaning less spike in E2. Less is better with AI's and using zero is priceless.

BMP it's really just a matter of preference. You will be fine either way, it's just based on how you feel in conjunction with periodic blood work to analyze results. Pick one and stick with it until your next BW and evaluate. We will always help you here.

kel

ps: above theory applies to the op's original question as well.

I am concerned with waste and so many litle pokes every 3.5 days will the half life of Cypinoite last for 7 days without roller coaster in feelings . I have serious concern of the qmount of waste = scrip I have been given ?

I don't really think less is an opition at this point ? 53 yrs old and test level of (78) ?

[kelkel]

Oh we understand about all the poking. Hence why SQ is more and more popular. Try it if you have not. Whether you feel a roller coaster effect is up to your metabolism and how it handles the T on weekly protocols. We are all different. If your injecting the same amount of T either in one injection or in two, there is no waste. It's all going to work for you!

Def a low level. I know the feeling. I was at a 59 and dropping fast when I started.

kel