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    Is this low T? For the experts

    Hey Everyone,

    I'm a 52 year old male living on a small Hawaiian island. In good shape, 6'1, 195lbs. I feel I have age-related low T symptoms, so I recently had blood-work done. My Dr. tells me everything is OK, but I was able to persuade her to make an appointment with an endo on Oahu soon.

    To the experts here. Would you consider this a result that should qualify for TRT? Going just by the testosterone result alone. Like I said, she tells me all the numbers are good. Thanks and Cheers.

    Total Testosterone 245 ng/dl range 193-740

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    I would say absolutely yes. Your range is way too low, and will cause more health problems if not fixed. many or most here had higher levels then that when they went on. I was 330. BTW I'm not sure i have seen a range so low (193-740). Most say like 320-880 or something.

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    labcorp range is 348-1197

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    Are the tests equivalent? I thought that the ranges reflected bias in the test- a lab with a higher range has a test that returns higher numbers.

    For the OP, diagnosis is a combination of numbers (dont' forget the free T number since that's what you feel) and symptoms. If you have a number that's in the low range but no symptoms, no problem.

    If you do have symptoms look into what's causing your low T. Don't just go on TRT without researching it. Maybe it's something that can be fixed. TRT is not a quick and easy fix. It takes work on your part to get your program right. Often you have to educate your doctor because few know anything other than prescribe T and forget about you. Even when you get your program right it's not as good as a healthy amount of your own hormones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasondd1 View Post
    I would say absolutely yes. Your range is way too low, and will cause more health problems if not fixed. many or most here had higher levels then that when they went on. I was 330. BTW I'm not sure i have seen a range so low (193-740). Most say like 320-880 or something.
    Yes that's the range that's printed: 193-740. Thanks for your input I appreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparverius View Post
    Are the tests equivalent? I thought that the ranges reflected bias in the test- a lab with a higher range has a test that returns higher numbers.

    For the OP, diagnosis is a combination of numbers (dont' forget the free T number since that's what you feel) and symptoms. If you have a number that's in the low range but no symptoms, no problem.

    If you do have symptoms look into what's causing your low T. Don't just go on TRT without researching it. Maybe it's something that can be fixed. TRT is not a quick and easy fix. It takes work on your part to get your program right. Often you have to educate your doctor because few know anything other than prescribe T and forget about you. Even when you get your program right it's not as good as a healthy amount of your own hormones.
    Hi Sparverius I am researching it. I just wanted to know if my test levels warrant looking into TRT. My Dr. says they are OK. I was hoping to get a consensus other than myself about this, so that if I don't get help through my Dr., which is covered by insurance, then I'll look into finding another Dr. and possibly paying for this out of pocket. Thanks for your help.

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    Op I answered on the other post. No need for a duplicate in the future. Just "bump" your original and someone will chime in.

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    Yeah that's real low....regardless of the range it's based upon an avg of 18-80 old men. So if you are comfortable in being the bottom 15% of the range then ok but being at that level comes with symptoms....and they aren't good.

    Most docs and many Endo's are clueless as to make HRT etc. the statement that you're ok because you slightly above the bottom of the range tells you all you need know.

    Go find a good doc you need it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Boscogto View Post
    Yeah that's real low....regardless of the range it's based upon an avg of 18-80 old men. So if you are comfortable in being the bottom 15% of the range then ok but being at that level comes with symptoms....and they aren't good.

    Most docs and many Endo's are clueless as to make HRT etc. the statement that you're ok because you slightly above the bottom of the range tells you all you need know.

    Go find a good doc you need it.
    Thanks for your input Boscogto, I appreciate it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Op I answered on the other post. No need for a duplicate in the future. Just "bump" your original and someone will chime in.

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    OK will do. Cheers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparverius View Post
    Are the tests equivalent? I thought that the ranges reflected bias in the test- a lab with a higher range has a test that returns higher numbers.

    For the OP, diagnosis is a combination of numbers (dont' forget the free T number since that's what you feel) and symptoms. If you have a number that's in the low range but no symptoms, no problem.

    If you do have symptoms look into what's causing your low T. Don't just go on TRT without researching it. Maybe it's something that can be fixed. TRT is not a quick and easy fix. It takes work on your part to get your program right. Often you have to educate your doctor because few know anything other than prescribe T and forget about you. Even when you get your program right it's not as good as a healthy amount of your own hormones.
    All due respect and I mean that sincerely...but...I completely disagree with this statement.

    Low Testosterone , if insidious, can cause all kinds of serious pathologies like cancer, cardiovascular disease, prostate/thyroid/hypothalamus disorders and completely throw off hormonal homeostasis and cause a lot of other age related disorders that can be staved off for a good long period of time regardless if the OP has no symptoms.

    There are many insidious diseases that can have no symptomology yet have grave consequence like breast cancer, skin cancer and colon cancer to name a few.

    Just MO is all...

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