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    No problem starting but the climax isn"t there!

    Have had a problem now for about a month in that I can get an erection no problem and go for hours but cannot acheive an orgasm??? Been doing Slingshot method 0f 8 on 2 off Test prop and or test e doing 500mg/wk for 8 wks and 200 mg wk for 2 wks for a total of about 24 weeks now adding hcg as of today(250mg ever m-w-f). I just seperated from my wife and have been seeing someone else so not sure if it's phychological or what??? Anybody have any ideas or input?

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    It could be psychological if your break up was recent...your mind still thinks you're "cheating" so can't get to orgasm...happened to me as well many years ago.

    What are you doing to manage E2?

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    Taking Exem 12.5mg eod...Also forgot to mention I was going to start tren on my next 8 week "on" I started last week and did 2 100mg shots and stopped..Also did a few shots of Deca to help stop my Costochondritis pain in ribs 4-6 weeks ago (400mg a week for 3 weeks) but kept Test at same or higher. Deca has never caused this in past either. I figure it may be a combine of Psych. and Tren/Deca....You just never know as you get older & your body changes. I never had a prob w/gyno until I turned 38 either.????

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    Agree with GD. I'll add that it really seems like a bad time in your life to be cycling. Sounds more like the time to re-group and get through all of your current stress. Stress is a killer.

    Good luck!

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    Might be low E2 levels mine are an 8 and have same problem.

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    I have the same problem regardless of whether my E2 is 20 (normal) or 300 (surprising discovery a couple of week ago).

    It has been a lifelong issue but might be worse now that I am on TRT and blasting...or just because I am getting older.

    I will be watching this thread with interest.

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    Sorry to hear that bro. Same thing happened to me in 2008, but i don't think my issue was "cheating" (it was crystal clear to me our 15 yr marriage had ended) it was "trying too much" so to speak. Took a step back, relaxed, just went with the flow and it was cool; back to normal

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    Thanks guys....Definately thnking about coming off on a good PCT/ HGG proto. until the stress clears. I just don't know, I may just cruise for a while since @ 42 I'm TRT for life I'm pretty sure... After 20 years of a rough marriage the "cheating" part has no play at least conciously... and this new girl is 10 years younger and ****s like a pornstar!! So all the mental part should be there..Think I'm going to play out the next 7 weeks with my 500mg week Test P/ HCG and see if the Tren was the culprit...Also gonna get my E2 levels checked. Will post along and thanks again guys!

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    This same thing happened to me when my prolactin level jumped up while running deca the first time with my HRT.

    Run a prolactin lab as well to rule it in or out. Once I started taking a little caber, the climaxes not only returned to normal, but improved noticeably!

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    I had a similar issue last cycle (400mg test E 12weeks). At week nine, i lost the ability to ejaculate...well, I could, but it took a long time, and lots of thought. This happened when i was with a few different women as I wasn't in a relationship. It definantly wasn't psychological. It lasted until about the second week of pct. Also, i didn't use an AI, or hcg . I wonder if elevated e2 caused it???

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    Have caber but not taking it since stopping Tren ....Gonna start taking it again I guess.

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    Caber will give your libido a nice kick as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kolaking View Post
    Thanks guys....Definately thnking about coming off on a good PCT/ HGG proto. until the stress clears. I just don't know, I may just cruise for a while since @ 42 I'm TRT for life I'm pretty sure... After 20 years of a rough marriage the "cheating" part has no play at least conciously... and this new girl is 10 years younger and ****s like a pornstar!! So all the mental part should be there..Think I'm going to play out the next 7 weeks with my 500mg week Test P/ HCG and see if the Tren was the culprit...Also gonna get my E2 levels checked. Will post along and thanks again guys!
    Naturally we can't believe this without a pic of her.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyVegas View Post
    I have the same problem regardless of whether my E2 is 20 (normal) or 300 (surprising discovery a couple of week ago).

    It has been a lifelong issue but might be worse now that I am on TRT and blasting...or just because I am getting older.

    I will be watching this thread with interest.
    Johnny - If you watch porn (assuming you dig good and really hot porn) can you climax without much problem or is it still delayed?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    Johnny - If you watch porn (assuming you dig good and really hot porn) can you climax without much problem or is it still delayed?
    We do on occasion and it doesn't help much. The sex is awesome and I would just go forever if given the chance, but manners dictate that I give the girl a rest.

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    Hahaha.. I figured someone with high hormone levels would ask for that but didn't figure anyone on this forum fit the bill....Only rated G; last time I put pics of a girl up in XXX I got hammered bigtme!!
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    No porn allowed on the forum...it's a pretty strict rule.

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    It wasn't on this site...and it was the girl that hammered me!

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    She's a cutey! Reminds me of a friend that my wife and I know.

    Since you took tren , I can almost assure you what you are experiencing is indeed a little lag of prolactin leftover from taking it. Quite common in the Nor19's. Again, exact same thing happened to me on deca . I'd get to the point where I know it wanted to go, but it just wouldn't happen. I took .25mg x 2/wk of caber for a few weeks and the problem was solved!

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    Ok...took 2 mg of caber yesterday and at 2 am woke my girl up and was able to bust in about 15 minutes....Climax lasted about 1 minute, no bull...And it stayed erect afterward wanting to go again but we both fell asleep with it in her hand...LOL! I agree with the idea that it was a side to the Tren and didn't take enough Caber. We will see as I experiment more in the next few days. thanks for the input and ideas guys!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyVegas View Post
    I have the same problem regardless of whether my E2 is 20 (normal) or 300 (surprising discovery a couple of week ago).

    It has been a lifelong issue but might be worse now that I am on TRT and blasting...or just because I am getting older.

    I will be watching this thread with interest.
    Not to hijack the thread but how did you feel at 300 estrogen!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreadnok89

    Not to hijack the thread but how did you feel at 300 estrogen!
    I felt normal. I was totally surprised. I planned on taking 1mg Ldex a day for a week but stayed at that dose for two weeks because I didn't feel close to bottoming out. Now I am at .75mg daily and hope to have time for blood work next week.

    I am sure my E2 is lower now but it hasn't helped with orgasms. I will have my prolactine tested too and will try Caber or Prami if it is high.

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    I have the same issue and last bloodwork showed my prolactin at 12.4 with a range of 4.0-15.2 .

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    This might sound funny coming from a guy with my user name but what's caber?I am having the same issues you guys are having now.I have been on TRT for 15 months and did find a sweet spot but something has changed and I am working to fix it.

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    Cabergoline is a long-acting dopamine D2-receptor agonist and in vitro rat studies show a direct inhibitory effect on the prolactin secretion in the pituitary's lactotroph cells. Cabergoline decreased serum prolactin levels.

    Off-label/recreational uses

    It has at times been used as an adjunct to SSRI antidepressants as there is some evidence that it counteracts certain side effects of those drugs, such as reduced libido and anorgasmia. It also has been suggested online that it has a possible recreational use in reducing or eliminating the male refractory period, thereby allowing men to experience multiple ejaculatory orgasms in rapid succession, and at least one scientific study supports those speculations.[7] It is also used by bodybuilders to control gynecomastia caused by elevated prolactin levels through the use of anabolic steroids such as nandrolone and trenbolone . Additionally, a systematic review and meta-analysis concluded that prophylactic treatment with cabergoline reduces the incidence, but not the severity, of ovarian hyperstimulation syndrome (OHSS), without compromising pregnancy outcomes, in females undergoing stimulated cycles of in vitro fertilization (IVF).[8] Also, a study on rats found that cabergoline reduces voluntary alcohol consumption, possibly by increasing GDNF expression in the ventral tegmental area.[9]

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    Quote Originally Posted by kolaking View Post
    Hahaha.. I figured someone with high hormone levels would ask for that but didn't figure anyone on this forum fit the bill....Only rated G; last time I put pics of a girl up in XXX I got hammered bigtme!!
    (Pics) Lucky dog you!! Glad to hear all is well now bro.....

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    I discovered that Nor19s stay in your system for quite a while, I stopped the cabor at the same time I stopped the deca and paid the price, went back on cabor for several more weeks.... no more problems

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    Kolaking, be careful dosing caber so high (2mg). I don't blame you for dosing it kinda high to start w/ as you want to actually feel it kick in (which you being able to bust a nut is a good indication), but I would advise using the least amount of caber possible while still getting some benefit. For me, I run it at .5mg every 3 days. Glad you were able to finally release some tension and nice work trading in the ex wife for a much newer model...she's a cutey!

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    Yeah I usualy take 1mg a week...

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    Quote Originally Posted by kolaking View Post
    Yeah I usualy take 1mg a week...
    good deal!

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