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    BuzzardMarinePumper Scary BW after 8 wks What to fix 1st

    I am lost this looks like the blood work of an alcholic, junkfood junkie that watches TV all day ? I have been doing what all the info given tells me high protein, complex carbs, plenty of exercise and no alchol ? + recommended supplements to boot and .25 Cyp every 3.5 days SubQ ?





    LAB PARTNERS

    Results Flags - H: High HH: Critical High L: Low LL: Critical Low A: Abnormal AA: Very Abnormal

    Testosterone , Free and Total (Includes SHBG) 12/28/2012

    FASTING

    Test Description Results Abnormal Reference Range Unit

    Testosterone, Total 467.75 250-890 ng/dl

    Tanner Stage Male Female

    I < 30 ng/dL < ng/dL

    II < 150 ng/dL < ng/dL

    III 100 – 320 ng/dL < 35 ng/dL

    IV 200 – 970 ng/dL 15 – 40 ng/dL

    Sex Hormone Binding Globulin 15 13 – 71 nmol/

    Testosterone, Free (Calc) 139.3 47.0 – 244.0 pg/mL



    The concentration of free testosterone is derived from a mathematical

    Expression based on constants for the binding of testosterone to sex

    Hormone – binding globulin and albumin.

    Testosterone, % Free (Calc) 3.0 H 1.6 – 2.9 %? ? ? ?
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    CBC with Diff

    WBC 7.4 4.0 – 10.5 K/uL

    RBC 5.2 4.22 – 5.81 MIL/uL

    Hemoglobin 16.9 13.0 – 17.0 g/dL WTF
    Hematocrit 50.6 39.0 – 52.0 %

    MCV 96.9 78.0 – 100.0 fL

    MCH 32.4 26.0 – 34.0 pg

    MCHC 33.4 30.0 – 36.0 g/dL

    RDW 13.7 11.5 – 15.5 %

    Platelet Count 268 150 – 400 K/uL

    Granulocyte % 61 43 – 77 %

    Absolute Gran 4.5 1.7 – 7.7 K/uL

    Lymph % 29 12 – 46 %

    Absolute Lymph 2.2 0.7 – 4.0 K/uL

    Mono % 8 3 – 12 %

    Absolute Mono 0.6 0.1 – 1.0 K/uL

    Eos % 1 0 – 5 %

    Absolute Eos 0.1 0.0 – 0.7 K/uL

    Baso % 1 0 - 1 %

    Absolute Baso 0.1 0.0 – 0.1 K/uL

    Smear Review Criteria for review not met

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    Comprehensive Metabolic Panel

    Sodium 140 135 – 145 mEq/L

    Potassium 4.1 3.5 – 5.3 mEq/L

    Chloride 103 96 - 112 mEq/L

    CO2 25 19 – 31 mEq.L

    Glucose 130 H 79 – 99 mg/dL

    BUN 17 6 – 23 mg/dL

    Creatinine 1.42 H 0.50 – 1.35 mg/dL

    Bilirubin, Total 1.7 H 0.3 – 1.2 mg/dL I HAVE O IDEA Worried !

    Alkaline Phosphatase 81 39 – 117 U/L

    AST/SGOT 23 0 – 37 U/L

    ALT/SGPT 20 0 - 53 U/L

    Total Protein 7.3 6.0 – 8.3 g/dL

    Albumin 4.9 3.5 – 5.2 g/dL

    Calcium 9.8 8.4 – 10.5 mg/dL

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    Lipid Profile

    Cholesterol 214 H 0 – 200 mg/dL

    ATP III Classification:

    < 200 mg/dL Desirable

    200- 239 mg/dL Borderline High

    Ø = 240 mg/dL High



    Triglycerides 209 H < 150 mg/dL WTF

    HDL 38 L > 39 mg/dL WTF

    Total Cholesterol 5.6 Ratio

    VLDL Cholesterol (Calc) 42 H 0 – 40 mg/dL WTF

    LDL Cholesterol (Calc) 134 H 0 – 130 mg/dL WTF

    Total Cholesterol / HDL Ratio: CHD Risk


    Coronary Heart Disease Risk Table

    Men Women

    ½ Average Risk 3.4 3.3

    Average Risk 5.0 4.4

    2x Average Risk 9.6 7.1

    3x Average Risk 23.4 11.0

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    T4 6.7 5.0 – 12.5 ug/dL

    TSH 3.892 0.350 – 4.500 uIU/mL

    T3 71.0 L 80.0 – 204.0 ng/dL

    Free T4 1.27 0.80 – 1.80 ng/dL

    FSH 0.4 L 1.4 – 18.1 mIU/mL

    LH < 0.1 L 1.5 – 9.3 mIU/mL

    Homocysteine 11.6 4.0 – 15.4 umol/L

    Estradiol, Ultra sensitive 66 H < or = 29 pg/mL WTF


    Please share detail opition to get my blood remotly balanced ?
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    HCG for your LH, arimidex for your E2, A doctor for your thyroid levels. More test.

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    probably need a fasting glucose test as well

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    It was all fasting ? ? ? ? I go to a new Dr. Thurs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jwws9999 View Post
    HCG for your LH, arimidex for your E2, A doctor for your thyroid levels. More test.
    Who are you ? I have never seen your introduction or post other than on mine ?

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    Hey there, looks like you've got some work to do.

    Maybe you could tell us more about your history? Also tell us about your HRT protocol in depth.

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    If you are running an AI it can make your cholesterol high.

    Did you drink the night before or recently? That can effect your liver levels. You not taking any orals, only your trt, right?

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    No I did not Drink the night before I fasted and I in the past have not been a alchol drinker on a regular bassis. I possibly have 1 to 3 beers a week. As of the results of this test ZERO !

    My protical is very simple from a simple Dr. he prescribed on 10/28/12 1 mL EOW IM Testosterone Cypionate ; I take .25 every 3.5 days SUbQ, along with DHEA 50,mg D3 5000 iu,150 mg Zinc , 1200 mg Magnessium, 3000 mg Fish Oil and 900 mg of omega 3's in the Fish oil. No AI's or HCG My DR. refused to prescribe ! I go to give blood Mon at Red Cross and to a new Doctor Thur. 12:30 TRT specialit I have just found about a week ago . I am 100% disabled with sever DVT (Blood Clots) in my left leg and I have clots hit mu lungs 4 times in the past 9 yrs.Clinic not an opition until the new one on this forum opens in Feb I just plain old don't have the $$$

    I was ran over by a truck in 02 and for 3 years I was in and out of the hospital told I would not live I am beating what all the Dr. have told me. I was up until 05 on very heavy pain meds Fentynal , 3 muscle relaxers,

    Currently on
    10 mg of Oxycodone 6 x's a day Still in constant pain all the tme I am awake !
    I was on 8 mg of xanax daily and I have backed down .
    Ambien as needed and don't take that much I take meletonien instead .
    Alapuronal for Uric Acid Blocker 300 mg daily . To prevent Gout I also have rumotory Arthrits
    Meloxacam = to Celebrex 1 x daily I have stopped that and endure the joint pain I am sure the 66 E2 doesn't help ?

    I abused juice in my 20s and my test level was (78) on 10/25/12 now 468 with free test in high range

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    I still take ambien as needed due to shift work but im going to try to get off 100% soon due to a recent costly anbien mistake

    I was on hydrocodone 10mg, 2x day, morphine 15mg, 2x day and deflocinac anti inflamitory 2x a day up until two months ago thanks mostly to TB-500

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    I still take ambien as needed due to shift work but im going to try to get off 100% soon due to a recent costly anbien mistake

    I was on hydrocodone 10mg, 2x day, morphine 15mg, 2x day and deflocinac anti inflamitory 2x a day up until two months ago thanks mostly to TB-500
    What is TB - 500 ?

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    TRT andd HGH could cure many peoples suffering Including mine but where are the Dr.'s

    I have found some of my pain more able to deal with as the TRT has started to improve muscle strength. I assume this is due to less stress on the joints and the actual muscles are taking the strain off of the joints it would be to great to find a Dr. that would presribe the proper amount of Deca for medicinal purposes to also help with the joint pain.

    I could be wrong but if I had the $$$ I would go to a clinic and tell them along with their advise what I wanted and I feel that HGH included in a TRT protical would get me off of the liver damaging medication and I would be able to gain strenght and health wellness . This would take care of my Blood Cloting issues as well as my Arthritis . This would be treating the root of the problem as opposed to treating all the different symptoms ! It would require a strict diet and proper training routine so I didn't damage joints in the bulding of muscle. This is just the theory of a 53 year old man that has seen great improvements with no expert guidance in TRT. If only I could afford a TRT Endo that was up to date on TRT and internal medican I could have a healthy life without pain meds or joint prescriptions that kill a persons liver. As it is I have to live with the pain as so many other people do and if only the Dr.'s would wake up and embrace new information as a handful have done , A Sad fact of many peoples lives SAD !

    Please some of you pros / experts sare your knowledge on my theory and also facts would be even more welcome !

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    I that enough info ?

    Quote Originally Posted by HRTstudent View Post
    Hey there, looks like you've got some work to do.

    Maybe you could tell us more about your history? Also tell us about your HRT protocol in depth.

    I could go back futher but my health really took a dive with the sever trama and all the surgerys and I am sure the super strong meds didn't help any ?

    If I can give you any more info that would assist you in a felpful suggestion to me I would be grateful ! As I have said I go to a new Doc on Thurs and I give Blood tomorrow if my hemoglobin is not to high ? It is border line at the top of the normal range .

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    Hey BMP just went to your thread, only to ask you what the hell a BuzzardMarinePumper was LOL.

    However after reading the thread I found your history very interesting. My best was in a simalar boat with the blood clots except his was due to phlebitis, he contracted when he was about 17 and by the time he was 21 was on oxygen due to all the clots being chucked to his lungs.

    Anyhow I don't know how much you have spoken to your doctor about the TRT's effect on the blood clots but if not I would look into that as it is something that you likely need to keep a close eye on.

    I also would post your diet and health concerns in the nutritional section as I think its likely that your concerns should be about health and it likely that the typical high protein diet is really not the best thing for you as it puts a lot of strain on the body for minor improvements in muscle mass to body mass changes. However I am far from an expert on this so as said post and see what information GB and others have for you.

    By the way I also have a long history with pain meds both prescribed and from the street, due to several ruptured discs in my back from a work accident as well as cracked knee caps, shattered wrist, neck injury etc suffered in a motorcycle accident. All I can tell you there is that the pain will likely lessen over time, so hopefully you will be able to continue on your path.

    Really wishing you all the best with getting good TRT help. Since as you know it makes all the difference in the amount of success you will see.

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    Oh one other question, do you have screens/shunts installed in your body to limit the travel of any clots your body chucks? My friend was so bad off at 24 that only one surgical team in the country would try to help him and they gave him less than a 40% chance of making it but said if he did not he would be dead for sure within the year. Well 4 surgeons and 14 hrs later he was off the operating table and on his way to a new lease on life. They put screens on both his legs, both lungs and his shoulders ( feed to head?) and after this he was able to resume a life without oxygen and lived to 48 years old with no problems related to clots.

    PS unfortunately he did drink which is what killed him in the end. So I am glad to hear you steering away from that avenue...believe me alcohol is a truly incedious substance that wrecks havoc on every cell in the body.
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    Thanks for the info and I have been dealing with DVT's and phlebitis since I was 21 . I only had small issues with wounds healing up until the Truck ran over me and then all types of new issues . I try not to dwell on them and I am thanful for every day. I want to get off the bad liver meds and pain meds ! All I take for blood clots is an asprin a day and I seem to be fortunate. I had a hip implant and the orthopedic surgeon and my vascular Dr. got to gether and discussed putting in screens and the Vascular surgey decided that my clots were in my left lower leg and had stablized basicly al the vains they were in had deteriated and the screen would be as risky as the operation ?

    BuzzardMarine Pumper = I am 53 and even before TRT tried to force myself to be active. I ref and play paintball "Buzzard" (Arron Carter Buzzard designer) is the name or a hand made custom Pump paintball marker new cost abot $550.00 used they may bring same less or more depending on the set-up ! I was a Marine many tears ago and they say once a Marine always a Marine. Pumper stands for a select few paintballers that shoot presission Pump paintball markers 1 shot one kill / mark on the enemy at 50 to 70 ft. Pump play requires a skill in tactics and when to shoot and when to move

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    Damn I am 57 and as they say never too old to learn...I always called them paintball "guns" LOL. By the way just went to the site and although I am into racecars I have an appreciation for quality machine work of any kind and those are some nice "markers".

    Glad to hear that your clots seem to be "out of play" so to speak.

    Really wish I had joined the core myself, wanted to at 16, my dad was game but mom would not go for it. By the time I was 18 the draft was over and I was in "love" so I had lost the desire to enlist.

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    Yea that is something a lot of people don't know . No US Marine has ever been drafted You have to join be accepted and then make the cut ! My Platoon in 2nd Bat. on Paris Island 1977 90 + recruits started and of the orginal 60 left the Island US Marines . We picked up a few that were recycled due to medical reasons like broken bones or sickness and the ones that got sent to the fat farm and the correctional Custody Platoon . . . . now that had to be real hell ! I though I had it bad but those guys had hit a DI or tried to escape from the island when they went to CCP they had to ask permission to take a step and if they even moved to fast they got "corrected " if they moved to slow they got "corrected" They stood for hours in the sun with bucket held out and some lost it mentally most had to clear back through medical and then some didn't pass the mental requirements. It is a new Corp now they have stress cards where if a Drill Instructor gets on 1 man to hard the recruit can pull his stress card and the Drill Instructor has to cool down and "that" Di can't "Train that recruit for a certain period of time. Seems some of the recruit letters got home to moms about the phycial abuse from the DI's and I heard they have even had to stop cursing so much. The movie Full Metal Jacket is a very g rated version of Paris Island Boot Camp , But notice they are using M-14 not M-16 and that made the film time period to be about 1974 . I am not sure when the recruits started training with M-16 I know it was a bad idea. The M-14 had a longer Baynotte and was a 30.06 round.

    The theory behind the M-16 was western and not eastern mind set. The thought was that the M-16 would wound as well as kill and when we wounded an NVA that would take two men out of the battle just like "we don't leave wounded behind" They held the wounded in front of them to block bullets , The M-16 had to be kept incrediablly clean or it would jam and the M-14 would shoot almost under and conditions ! So that is why back then a Russian made AK or a Shot Gun was the weapon of choice for Marines or of course the "Rambo" M-60 whch is a joke the way he holds it and fires it in that movie. Just for fun we would strap into an M-60 and fire it and it would drag a 200lb man where ever it wanted to go when being fired !

    Oh a great Paintball forum is macarterbrown it has info on markers that shoot 30+ balls per second and also info on old brass markers that where made of brass and did not have interchageable barrels. It also tells the history of paintball and how it has evolved !
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    Bump Please would a specialist or knowledgable member weight in on my BW ?

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    Are you taking fish oil or CoQ? That is supposed to help with the LDL.

    If you can save up the funds for HGH I can share with you it's a massive help with injury recovery. I am on month 4 with GH and it really helped me.

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    Forgot to add that opiates are also tough on the liver and kidneys just like alcohol so that may be why your BW is not where you want it at the moment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BuzzardMarinePumper View Post
    What is TB - 500 ?
    I'm pretty sure I have mentioned it to you before but here you go.
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=#.UOrftb_hxv8

    Yes they are for sure. I'm sure that's why my numbers have been out of range sometimes but when I keep up with the liv52 it helps

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    RBC is high..

    Time to start donating blood or Phlebotomy.. It will drop the Hemoglobin and Hematocrit levels which can help with joint pain..

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    great Thread

    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    I'm pretty sure I have mentioned it to you before but here you go.
    http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...=#.UOrftb_hxv8

    Yes they are for sure. I'm sure that's why my numbers have been out of range sometimes but when I keep up with the liv52 it helps
    I read the whole thread and I am trying to figure out how to mix and dose & Frequency of TB-500 sounds to good to be true should help pain levels tremdeously !

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyteeJ View Post
    Are you taking fish oil or CoQ? That is supposed to help with the LDL.

    If you can save up the funds for HGH I can share with you it's a massive help with injury recovery. I am on month 4 with GH and it really helped me.
    3000 mg of Fish Oil a Day with 900 mg of omega 3's

    HGH looks like a good thing for pain also but if not prescribed by a Dr. it is complicated to figure out how to reconstitute and when and what dose to give if self medicating with HGH ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BuzzardMarinePumper View Post
    I read the whole thread and I am trying to figure out how to mix and dose & Frequency of TB-500 sounds to good to be true should help pain levels tremdeously !
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    3000 mg of Fish Oil a Day with 900 mg of omega 3's

    HGH looks like a good thing for pain also but if not prescribed by a Dr. it is complicated to figure out how to reconstitute and when and what dose to give if self medicating with HGH ?
    None of it is complicated. You just follow the directions and do it the same ever time. Once you have done it it's easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    None of it is complicated. You just follow the directions and do it the same ever time. Once you have done it it's easy.
    I was intimidated by reconstituting at first but after first mix you'll be fine.

    TB-500 has had excellent reviews on here.

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    I have located put in my cart and got my Supplemrnt card loaded just waiting to pull the trigger and order 4 5mg bottles, 15 to 20 GHRP 2 15 to 20 5 mg bottle not sure how or when to take this lots of very good reviews also an 2 10 mg bottles of MT II tanning,appititte susression and libibo improvement. If I just felt comfrontable with reconstituting.

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    You won't have a problem. Just read eaxh post with instructions and follow. My Tb 500 I just put 3cc of water in it and use 1cc every 2 weeks right now. For me I can feel it wearing off so to speak after 2 - 3 weeks still. Ive used 5 vials so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    You won't have a problem. Just read eaxh post with instructions and follow. My Tb 500 I just put 3cc of water in it and use 1cc every 2 weeks right now. For me I can feel it wearing off so to speak after 2 - 3 weeks still. Ive used 5 vials so far.
    Was your TB-500 2 mg or 5mg I have found a trusted site and if it is that simple I am in need of refief please reply

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts
    You won't have a problem. Just read eaxh post with instructions and follow. My Tb 500 I just put 3cc of water in it and use 1cc every 2 weeks right now. For me I can feel it wearing off so to speak after 2 - 3 weeks still. Ive used 5 vials so far.
    I hear people use TB500 5mg all I'm one shot, so 1 vial per week.. I want to use tb500 2mg vial one per week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FONZY007 View Post
    I hear people use TB500 5mg all I'm one shot, so 1 vial per week.. I want to use tb500 2mg vial one per week.
    NO that would be way to much. I use the 2mg vials and I think the 1st shot may have been the whole 2mg but that was it. I followed the posted protocol all the way except for I am doing now every 2 weeks instead of 1x as month. I now use 3cc in my 2mg vial so it last me at least 6 weeks. Supposedly I could do less but this is working for me and it's better than the alternatives of going back on the pain meds.

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    Way to kind ! Thank you ! I am on a budget $1450.00 a month and I am working on balancing my TRT 1st . I just don't have the funds to do both at a clinic at the same time ! Thanks again !

    Quote Originally Posted by MyteeJ View Post
    Are you taking fish oil or CoQ? That is supposed to help with the LDL.

    If you can save up the funds for HGH I can share with you it's a massive help with injury recovery. I am on month 4 with GH and it really helped me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts

    NO that would be way to much. I use the 2mg vials and I think the 1st shot may have been the whole 2mg but that was it. I followed the posted protocol all the way except for I am doing now every 2 weeks instead of 1x as month. I now use 3cc in my 2mg vial so it last me at least 6 weeks. Supposedly I could do less but this is working for me and it's better than the alternatives of going back on the pain meds.
    Thanks for the info

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyteeJ View Post
    Are you taking fish oil or CoQ? That is supposed to help with the LDL.

    If you can save up the funds for HGH I can share with you it's a massive help with injury recovery. I am on month 4 with GH and it really helped me.
    Quote Originally Posted by BuzzardMarinePumper View Post
    Way to kind ! Thank you ! I am on a budget $1450.00 a month and I am working on balancing my TRT 1st . I just don't have the funds to do both at a clinic at the same time ! Thanks again !
    The first thing both of you guys need to do is to educate yourself a LOT in regards to HGH. Not just what it can do for you but in regards to how to and now not to purchase it. There are about 999.999 way of how not to purchase HGH. There are all of 2 or 3 max on how to. SERIOUSLY!
    The #1 and 100% best option is find a local longevity clinic to get tested and get a prescription for it. Dont worry about #2 or #3 until you have done everything you can to make #1 work.

    Not only is 99.9% if not more of all HGH you will find online, in the gym or from a trusted source, bunk but there are some potentially dangerous and damaging additives being used lately. A lot of them mimic hgh sides but could have lasting negative side effect. Not exactly what you are wanting right now or ever.

    Read up on the Chinese concern log in the IGF insulin hgh section.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    The first thing both of you guys need to do is to educate yourself a LOT in regards to HGH. Not just what it can do for you but in regards to how to and now not to purchase it. There are about 999.999 way of how not to purchase HGH. There are all of 2 or 3 max on how to. SERIOUSLY!
    The #1 and 100% best option is find a local longevity clinic to get tested and get a prescription for it. Dont worry about #2 or #3 until you have done everything you can to make #1 work.

    Not only is 99.9% if not more of all HGH you will find online, in the gym or from a trusted source, bunk but there are some potentially dangerous and damaging additives being used lately. A lot of them mimic hgh sides but could have lasting negative side effect. Not exactly what you are wanting right now or ever.

    Read up on the Chinese concern log in the IGF insulin hgh section.
    Mine is from a clinic and did my research prior to the purchase. Been on the IGF board for quite some time.

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    Mine is from a clinic and did my research prior to the purchase. Been on the IGF board for quite some time.
    Good man. Just trying to watch out for brothers and make sure they make an informed decisions. To many have no clue. Glad to see you are not one of the masses.

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    It is not actually that much more cash out of pocket to go to lowtestosterone.com and deal with like minds and be able to relax and let them instruct you as opposed going into your Dr. office and playing cat and mouse to get the minium treatment ! I LOOK FORWARD TO MY CONVERSATION with the clinic and to find out what we are going to do and the plane trip down !

    Anyone with a deal on transferable tickets from Atlanta to Orlando is welcome to contact me I am seeking and info on budget air fair from Atlanta to Orlando ! Any advise or travel tips will be a God send and gratefully appericiated !

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    Good man. Just trying to watch out for brothers and make sure they make an informed decisions. To many have no clue. Glad to see you are not one of the masses.
    Appreciate the concern.

    Sad to say but a rule of thumb that I kind of learned through my process - deal with a US doc and if the price seems too low it's probably too good to be true. GH is expensive but worth every penny.

    Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by lovbyts View Post
    You won't have a problem. Just read eaxh post with instructions and follow. My Tb 500 I just put 3cc of water in it and use 1cc every 2 weeks right now. For me I can feel it wearing off so to speak after 2 - 3 weeks still. Ive used 5 vials so far.

    I went on the Internet and read reviews all the way back to 2009 and I have been communicating with "THE PEPTIDE GUY" here on this forum. That is not his name but if you use TB=500 you know who I am talking about I am buying 5 at a time 5 MG bottles and I plan to Inject 6 mL of Bac Water in my 5 MG bottle my :

    FRONT LOAD
    1st Injection will be 1 mL
    2nd 5 days later 1 mL
    and 1 mL every 5 days for 30 days = 5 MG in a 30 Days

    See how I feeling hopefully little to no pain ?

    TAPERING MODE
    then go to 4 mL of Bac Water in 5 MG
    Inject 1 x evey 15 days or 2 x's a month

    that will be 10 MG in 60 days

    see how I feel and I hope 0 pain

    MAINTAINCE MODE
    I hope to be in maintaince mode and be taking 2 mL 15th of each mth

    Then stick with 4 mL Bac Water in 5 MG

    What are your thoughts Lovbyst

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