Testosterone came back at 3000!

[Vahevahe]

i went to my endos office today hoping for a increase of my testosterone and was waiting for lab numbers. My testosterone came back at 3,000. The endo asked me if i have been using steroids and i said no and they did a retest. My question is if i put testosterone on my forarms the day BEFOR the test and put it on my thigh the day of the test (to avoid contamination) can the testosterone cream still cause the sky high score by getting into the needle?

I also asked her about HCG and she said no tried convincing her with the hcg sticky and she said she was a "traditional" doctor and that trt patients dont need hcg.


UPDATE*************** I got my testosterone labs back today and the level was 401 ng. So it was probably a lab error.

[Sgt. Hartman]

Assuming it was measured in ng/dl you'd have to be injecting about about 750mg test per week for it to be 3000 so either the test is very wrong or you need to fess up.

[Rusty11]

A few months ago, my endo did bw and my total t came back at 4400. The poor endo was actually convinced this was a legitimate result. I thought, "give me a fricken' break". Of course it's a mistake. I suggested he do a retest. I went to the lab next day and result came back at 440. I'm still not sure whether Testim got on/in the needle or someone/something added an extra zero to the score. Anyway, I'll be interested to see your actual score.

EDIT: I swear, all endos have the same reaction to hCG . Do what you need to do. You WILL have shrinkage and possible pain. Mine took about 8 months to begin. Starting hCG was the best thing I ever did. Don't wait.

[Vahevahe]

Ok i feel better now i was kinda worried, Iv never used steroids ,so it is probably just a brain fart by the lab will keep you guys updated with new labs thanks guys

[BuzzardMarinePumper]

I have been on 10 wweeks , Mine had alread srunk from abuse in my 28 do you think I will have srinkage again sisnce I damaged myself in my 20 and my production at the age of 53 before TRT was (78) Will I even need HCG ?

[lovbyts]

Stupid doctors. LOL. I wish mine was 3000. I want to know what he says when it comes back at 300.

[Rusty11]

I really can't believe some of these endos. I was pleasantly surprised when I first came here a year ago and found out most endos are rigid and stiff-necked. I thought I was alone with thinking this way. Obviously, I'm not. Anyway, mine told me that "numbers don't lie". He was ready to take me off test until it came back in range. Thankfully, I talked him into a follow up bw. When it came back at the lower number, he was silent on the matter. I will say this, he lets me discuss everything I want during my appts. and really does listen. I tslked him into upping the testim. So, I could do a lot worse. I dont have a thyroid and he's done a good job of keeping it in the normal range for the past 15 yrs. Sorry...that was a bit long-winded...

[kelkel]

i went to my endos office today hoping for a increase of my testosterone and was waiting for lab numbers. My testosterone came back at 3,000. The endo asked me if i have been using steroids and i said no and they did a retest. My question is if i put testosterone on my forarms the day BEFOR the test and put it on my thigh the day of the test (to avoid contamination) can the testosterone cream still cause the sky high score by getting into the needle?

I also asked her about HCG and she said no tried convincing her with the hcg sticky and she said she was a "traditional" doctor and that trt patients dont need hcg.

Meaning she doesn't have testicals nor know what she is doing.....

[Far from massive]

Meaning she doesn't have testicals nor know what she is doing.....

What's good for the goose is good for the gander LOL

[Rusty11]

Stupid doctors. LOL. I wish mine was 3000. I want to know what he says when it comes back at 300.

If that's you in your avi, I'd say you're doing pretty fricken' good.

[lovbyts]

If that's you in your avi, I'd say you're doing pretty fricken' good.

No its my goal. I was not far off 2 years ago until I had multiple unrelated injuries and had to lay off 90% Detached retina, lens also came detached then had to have rotator cuff surgery.

Im back 60% and plan on hitting my goal in the next 2 years or less. Its good to have goals.

[Rusty11]

Wow....those are some serious issues. Yea...I could imagine it takes a lot of time/effort to come back from that.

[dreadnok89]

i went to my endos office today hoping for a increase of my testosterone and was waiting for lab numbers. My testosterone came back at 3,000. The endo asked me if i have been using steroids and i said no and they did a retest. My question is if i put testosterone on my forarms the day BEFOR the test and put it on my thigh the day of the test (to avoid contamination) can the testosterone cream still cause the sky high score by getting into the needle?

I also asked her about HCG and she said no tried convincing her with the hcg sticky and she said she was a "traditional" doctor and that trt patients dont need hcg.

im going to go on a rant here: this is complete garbage. why is it anything with a man is disregarded? what person doctor or non doctor would want a part of their body to shrivel up and become useless? female doctors are the worst. always had terrible experience them. half of them hate you and the other half say "man up" about your problems. shit is annoying. can some jerkoff like me know the benefits of hcg but yet not a doctor. absolutely astounding. its ok to just disregard it instead of fixing it cause its not her sack. Sorry dudes shit bugs me tho

[Dpyle]

im going to go on a rant here: this is complete garbage. why is it anything with a man is disregarded? what person doctor or non doctor would want a part of their body to shrivel up and become useless? female doctors are the worst. always had terrible experience them. half of them hate you and the other half say "man up" about your problems. shit is annoying. can some jerkoff like me know the benefits of hcg but yet not a doctor. absolutely astounding. its ok to just disregard it instead of fixing it cause its not her sack. Sorry dudes shit bugs me tho

Suppose I found the rose among the thorns with my trt doc. Everytime I go in for lab work we discuss new info she has found and in turn she listens to the info I've gathered through my own research. She actually encourages me to share with her so she can learn more to apply in her practice.

[lovbyts]

Wow....those are some serious issues. Yea...I could imagine it takes a lot of time/effort to come back from that.

Yeah but I have time at least until I die. I have a few pics of the jurney on my profile.

Its hard to find an endo who will listen. Mine is also old school but as ling as he prescribes my test im ok for now. I can deal with the rest.

[APIs]

im going to go on a rant here: this is complete garbage. why is it anything with a man is disregarded? what person doctor or non doctor would want a part of their body to shrivel up and become useless? female doctors are the worst. always had terrible experience them. half of them hate you and the other half say "man up" about your problems. shit is annoying. can some jerkoff like me know the benefits of hcg but yet not a doctor. absolutely astounding. its ok to just disregard it instead of fixing it cause its not her sack. Sorry dudes shit bugs me tho

I agree totally. While I'm sure there are exceptions, I'd stay away from Female TRT Docs as a general rule. I do think there's a Vet on here that has a Female Doc he's happy with though? Maybe it was Bass if I remember correctly?

[HRTstudent]

I would avoid the arm you draw from for at least 3 days.

This is the most common form of "contamination" I see for people... it's not that rare actually. I know my doctor never mentioned it, and how many people actually read all the inserts and/or books etc?

[lovbyts]

I would avoid the arm you draw from for at least 3 days.

This is the most common form of "contamination" I see for people... it's not that rare actually. I know my doctor never mentioned it, and how many people actually read all the inserts and/or books etc?

Good point and I remember reading that before. It doesnt take much to throw the numbers WAY off.

[Vahevahe]

Well got my results back and testosterone is 401 ng. The previous lab that showed 3,000 was a error.

[izverg]

Meaning she doesn't have testicals nor know what she is doing.....

My wellness doc is a female and she told me i absolutely should use HCG to preserve fertility and size of my ( )( )

[Rusty11]

Well got my results back and testosterone is 401 ng. The previous lab that showed 3,000 was a error.

Great to hear! Although, I 'm not at all shocked.

[lovbyts]

Well got my results back and testosterone is 401 ng. The previous lab that showed 3,000 was a error.

AND??? What did the doctor say? It had better of started with im sorry for not trusting you. If it didnt I hope you asked for a copy of ALL your chart notes and labs so you can find another doctor.

I did this once and it was very satisfying. The next doctor also said he was having me come in to often and test to often since I was within range and wrote me a rx for 6 months of test E.

[Vahevahe]

She had her nurse call me back and said "she dosnt know why the labs were showing 3000, but etc..." Nothing would please me more then to drop her and find another doctor but i have been to many endos in the area and none that i have met know as much as her about trt(which is still very little). For example the other doctors i went to didnt even know why a AI was needed and one wanted to start me off on 200mg test every week. She is a stubborn to say the least but honestly i am tired of searching for doctors and will try to work with her till i find a qualified endo that can take care of all the complexities of trt.

[HRTstudent]

She had her nurse call me back and said "she dosnt know why the labs were showing 3000, but etc..." Nothing would please me more then to drop her and find another doctor but i have been to many endos in the area and none that i have met know as much as her about trt(which is still very little). For example the other doctors i went to didnt even know why a AI was needed and one wanted to start me off on 200mg test every week. She is a stubborn to say the least but honestly i am tired of searching for doctors and will try to work with her till i find a qualified endo that can take care of all the complexities of trt.

if you're in the USA, I would urge you to avoid looking for endos... they are swamped with diabetes; no time for "quality of life" seekers like we are on TRT . best bet is an internist or urologist who specifically are interested in male TRT.

[Vahevahe]

Thanks HRT.Just called a couple places and found one in which the receptionist said their facility is a modern facility and hcg and armidex are used but on a case to case basis. The problem is they are out of network so i might have to wait a couple weeks to be able to pay for the services. The place is called Tower Urology in Los angeles,CA.

[lovbyts]

if you're in the USA, I would urge you to avoid looking for endos... they are swamped with diabetes; no time for "quality of life" seekers like we are on TRT . best bet is an internist or urologist who specifically are interested in male TRT.

I agree. I just went to my first urologist and was surprised he was so knoledgable about trt. He said most of his patients are using hcg also and he monitored E2 levels. My endo said ther is no reason to monitor E2 in men like most. He is good at giving me a 6mo rx though.

[dreadnok89]

I agree. I just went to my first urologist and was surprised he was so knoledgable about trt. He said most of his patients are using hcg also and he monitored E2 levels. My endo said ther is no reason to monitor E2 in men like most. He is good at giving me a 6mo rx though.

ya well mine sucked. telling me shots were too barbaric. and doesn't believe in hcg . dropped him like a bad habit

[lovbyts]

ya well mine sucked. telling me shots were too barbaric. and doesn't believe in hcg. dropped him like a bad habit

I guess it's the same old story some doctors just suck and are stuck in their way unwilling to keep up with the times and technology.

Hopefully soon enough we will all have the sponsors clinics near us and we wont have to worry about this BS.
www.lowtestosterone.com/

[AnabolicDoc]

It's so unacceptable how little some doctors try to even keep up to date in their field once they finish residency/fellowship. Most docs prescribing testosterone don't even know to consider an AI or HCG , so you can forget about those docs prescribing it.

If you want to stick with your doc, but can't get them to come around (prescribe hcg, an AI, etc.) try printing some literature for them and make sure it reads quickly. Use study abstracts and highlight the "Conclusions" section, or print out recommendations from a recognized authority (ie; Scaly) or group (like A4M) and highlight what you want them to see. If that doesn't work, try a new doctor.

I also know of this doctor in Connecticut who does TRT exclusively and most of his patients are out of state. He faxes or mails his patients scripts for labwork, testosterone, hcg, etc. and he claims it's completely legit. If anyone is interested I can post his website or you can find someone like him if there's no one locally who will work with you.

[AK1983]

UPDATE*************** I got my testosterone labs back today and the level was 401 ng. So it was probably a lab error.

Be careful if that was a lab error than they can inject you s wrong blood group when needed (minor error)

[lovbyts]

Be careful if that was a lab error than they can inject you s wrong blood group when needed (minor error)

??? I think you are getting confused on what happened and it's not likely they will make the same kind of mistake with blood types. This was due to simple contamination, not the labs fault. 3000 is probably the limit of the test.

[AK1983]

??? I think you are getting confused on what happened and it's not likely they will make the same kind of mistake with blood types. This was due to simple contamination, not the labs fault. 3000 is probably the limit of the test.

Ah IC, sorry I didn't read the whole thread, just first post. Lab error sounds crazy guess I got confused

[Rusty11]

??? I think you are getting confused on what happened and it's not likely they will make the same kind of mistake with blood types. This was due to simple contamination, not the labs fault. 3000 is probably the limit of the test.

Not that it really matters, but why must it be contamination (putting gel on the draw site) and not some type of lab error? Isn't that even a remote possibility? It just seems like an odd coincidence that mine came back at exactly 4400. Two days later, exactly 440. But, who knows.
Btw...don't you sleep, lovbyts?

[lovbyts]

Yes of course it's a possibility and I'm sure it happens but more times than not it's because someone using gel put it on their arm within the last day or two.

Yours was the case I was thinking of when I was going to say they could have just put an extra zero but since his was in the 400s it's unlikely since it was 3000. I actually had it typed out they may have added a zero before backing out.

It's just my opinion and obviously I have nothing to back this up. Either way glad to see the OP got it straightened out.

[Rusty11]

Yea...you're right, the op's #s were completely different. I was just throwing it out there, not saying mine was definitely a lab error. But now, to be sure, I don't go near that arm for a couple of days.

[Vahevahe]

Anabolicdoc if you can please post his information or send me a private message with his info that would be great. Most of the doctors in the LA area are either completely ignorant or stuck in their ways.

[2Sox]

I also know of this doctor in Connecticut who does TRT exclusively and most of his patients are out of state. He faxes or mails his patients scripts for labwork, testosterone, hcg, etc. and he claims it's completely legit. If anyone is interested I can post his website or you can find someone like him if there's no one locally who will work with you.

I'd be interested in getting the name of that doc in CT. I'm in NYC. Of if you know someone else.....

[AnabolicDoc]

I sent you a PM

[crazy mike]

I have my lab BW and in Nov I was at natural Test total of 619 then last in late Jan my test was 7333 ng. I checked and I checked and it was a valid number. Just my Test Free was 2454 ng. I was at the time just on Test cyp @ 500 wk. Now I have some more tests result coming back this week from draw last Mon. I'll see what is is now. But Those are true Numbers for me as much as I didn't want to believe the 7000+....crazy mike