Can Syntroid really boost testosterone that much?

[maelpj]

Hi, im 19years old, 20 in 2 months. I always been suffering from tiredness, low sex drive, low motivation ,etc. After tons of doc visits, finally an endo told me I might have hypotryroidism.

MY TSH 5.5 when tested, which showed sign of hypo, but my T3 free and T4 free were mid-range. He still put me on 75mg synthroid , but two month later,no improvement. Today he doubled my dose.

But here is my concern. My testosterone last year was tested at 475. 2 month ago 450 and 2 week ago at 383. Free testosterone is always at the lowest of the range.

While talking about my shitty level to my doc, he say that hypotyroidism lower testosterone and that curing it can help boost testo. I understand that hypotyroidism cause low test, but I dont see supplement t4 as curing the problem, more like covering it. synthetic t4 is not gonna build your thyroid gland again.

So how does synthroid can help boost testo? And will it make THAT much of a change? thanks.

PS: I want to had that my cortisol scored in the mid 600, a little higher than the top range, but endo say it wasnt that bad... estrogen was good.

[West Coast Winner]

I may have hyperthyroidism as well. What type of doctor should I go see?

[maelpj]

Go see an endo. Now, create your own thread , don't hijack mine please.

[HRTstudent]

the thyroid is a very important organ, and it can definitely have an impact on not only testosterone levels , but really everything - mind and body.

how is your diet? nutritious or very modern?

[maelpj]

I know the thyroid is important, what I mean is my endo told my I have a sub clinical hypothyroidism ( TSH high but still within range free t4 and t3). Plus, he explained to me that my thyroid basically destroy herself. Synthroid is just synthetic t4, so I just and an hormone, Im not healing my thyroid. So I dont understand how it could boost testosterone that much?

Diet? Regular bodybuilding diet, egg, beef, cheese, whey, cottage and milk for protein. Rice, oats, fruits and PWO shake for carbs. I take lifeforce vitamins to cover micro deffiency.

Never drink alcohol, never smoke, very rarely eat fastfood ( once every 2-3 month max). No stress.

[HRTstudent]

A tsh of 5.5 is very poor... I'm not sure what you're saying about thyroid killing herelf.. but did she test you for thyroid autoimmune diseases?

I don't give the benefit of the doubt to docs that numbers may be "fine", because many docs don't care what something is as long as its in range. That's a reason why so many guys with a testosterone of 300 at age 22 are told they are perfectly normal... because they fit into a range that includes 60 year old men well past their reproductive prime.

It would help at this point if you posted all your thyroid lab results with dates and ranges.

[Vahevahe]

Honestly i was diagnosed with hypothyroidism. BE CAREFUL with the thyroid medication and please monitor yourself. I had major axiety and panic attacks with sythroid and make sure you get a second opinion or third. My tsh was around 5-3 the last time i checked it it came back at 3 and i stopped taking thyroid medication. My opinion is that if your thyroid t3 and t4 are in range then you do not need thyroid medication of any kind UNLESS you have a thyroid disease like hashimotos in which the thyroid destroys itself over time. This can be checked with a thyroid antiboties test.

I had a t level of 200 and now that i am on T i am feeling much better. Make sure you are not misdiagnosed as Hypothyroid. You do have Hypogondism( Low T). Like HRTstudent said many guys with T that is low are told they are normal this is WRONG. Conservitivly your T should be atleast 700. Make sure to find the cause of the low t befor starting TRT. TRT is the LAST option.

Also when i was on Sythroid it didn't do squat for my testosterone levels .

[maelpj]

2 week ago with low dose of synthroid (75mg)
TSH : 5.5 mU/L----ref: 0.27-4.2
T4 free: 15.9 pmol/L---- ref: 12 -22 ( range wasn't that high last time)
Estradiol: 85.8pmol/L ( 23 ng/l I thinkg for english)
LH: 2.9 Ul/l ----- ref: 1.3-8.6
Cortisol AM: 616 nmol/L ---- ref:171-536
Testosterone : 374ng/L (13nmol/L)
Biodisponible test: 9.1 nmol/L

2 month ago without synthroid:

LH : 3.3 UI/L ---- Range: 1.2-10.6
FREE TESTOSTERONE: 9.6 nmol/L ------ Range: 6.0-22.0
TOTAL TESTOSTERONE: 455ng/L(15,7nmol)
TSH: 5.32 mU/L ------ Range: 0.27-4.2
Free T3: 7,22 pmol/L ------ Range 3.3-6.1
Free T4 was around 16 ( Almost highest of the range)

[HRTstudent]

If your main concern is the drop in testosterone , then I would not be overly worried.

First of all, its important to know that testosterone readings within 50 points of each other can be considered "no change" because of testing procedures. I read this in the book Testosterone for Life by Dr Morgentaler.

Not only that, but daily variation is a big factor; early morning T is the highest and it drops off substantially throughout the day.

Other factors include what you ate, if anything, stress, sleep, recent workouts, etc etc etc.

[maelpj]

Im not worrying about the drop in testosterone , Im worried about not having an ounce of libido at 19 years almost 20, and always being tired.

[maelpj]

Lab BEFORE taking any form of synthroid 2 month ago:
TSH : 5,32 -- range 0,27-4,20
T4 Free 14,4 -- range 9,8-18-8
Free T3 7,22 -- range 3,3 - 6,1

I was already in higher range free t3 and t4, so how is synthroid suppose to help me and boost my testosterone ? please help, need feed back I feel like Im wasting another 2 month of my life feeling like shit.

[SEOINAGE]

Lab BEFORE taking any form of synthroid 2 month ago:
TSH : 5,32 -- range 0,27-4,20
T4 Free 14,4 -- range 9,8-18-8
Free T3 7,22 -- range 3,3 - 6,1

I was already in higher range free t3 and t4, so how is synthroid suppose to help me and boost my testosterone? please help, need feed back I feel like Im wasting another 2 month of my life feeling like shit.

I see what you are saying and agree with you. I fail to see how it will increase test levels if t3 and t4 are at good values. Get the thyroid antibodies test done, I was able to improve thyroid function from dietary changes by eliminating foods that caused an immune response. But I already started trt so I don't know if I could have improved t levels thanks to it.

[maelpj]

I see what you are saying and agree with you. I fail to see how it will increase test levels if t3 and t4 are at good values. Get the thyroid antibodies test done, I was able to improve thyroid function from dietary changes by eliminating foods that caused an immune response. But I already started trt so I don't know if I could have improved t levels thanks to it.

what food did you cut ? Dairy, wheat?

[Vinman]

I also have Hypothyroidism, and had the same issue having a high TSH, while my T3 and 4 levels were in the normal range.

I struggled with it for almost 5 years, taking all kinds of supplements, dietary changes, etc to no avail

As hard as I trained, I still had problems losing the last few pounds, no matter what I did. My energy levels were not constant, either

If you need to go on medication, I suggest you find an endo who will give you not just Synthroid (T4), but will prescribe Cytomel (T3) as well. I have been using both, and my energy levels are great and weight loss is no longer a struggle.

Many docs think Synthroid is the only answer, but the more informed ones know that the combination is the best thing for Hypothyroidism

[lovbyts]

Honestly i was diagnosed with hypothyroidism. BE CAREFUL with the thyroid medication and please monitor yourself. I had major axiety and panic attacks with sythroid and make sure you get a second opinion or third. My tsh was around 5-3 the last time i checked it it came back at 3 and i stopped taking thyroid medication. My opinion is that if your thyroid t3 and t4 are in range then you do not need thyroid medication of any kind UNLESS you have a thyroid disease like hashimotos in which the thyroid destroys itself over time. This can be checked with a thyroid antiboties test.

I had a t level of 200 and now that i am on T i am feeling much better. Make sure you are not misdiagnosed as Hypothyroid. You do have Hypogondism( Low T). Like HRTstudent said many guys with T that is low are told they are normal this is WRONG. Conservitivly your T should be atleast 700. Make sure to find the cause of the low t befor starting TRT. TRT is the LAST option.

Also when i was on Sythroid it didn't do squat for my testosterone levels.

Have you looked int Armour? I did some research on it recently and a lot of people seem to like Armour a lot better than sythroid if/when they can get it.

[SEOINAGE]

what food did you cut ? Dairy, wheat?

It was a total of 16 different items. I had a blood test done that tested foods against immune responses. Yeast, both brewers and bakers, white potato, pineapple, cow's milk, goat's milk, cheese, wheat, oats, eggs, cranberries, sugar cane, peas, amaranth, and a couple others can't think of right now. I have it written down somewhere. But I haven't stuck with it anymore, need to get thyroid checked again to see if it's problematic again. I do try to limit foods like wheat and white potato. As far as cows milk goes I try to only drink raw cow's milk. It was murder at first to be 100% committed to this diet, lost 8 lbs early on with eating as much as I possibly could of the foods I could have, I'd practically be stuffing myself with acceptable foods. One of the greatest benefits was a huge reduction in water retention and inflammation, of which has come back a bit. Point of the diet was to reintroduce foods after 12 weeks, but my reintroduction was poorly done and i couldn't tell if a food was giving me issue or not. So I would like to iron my diet down better in future to see what works and doesn't so I can have everything be ideal.