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    colorado75 is offline Junior Member
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    Possible Concerning Blood Work Results... Please Help

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ID:	132761If you are knowledgable with blood work results, would you please take a look at my results and let me know your thoughts? I am concerned with some of the figures. I did this test via Life Extension so no doc was involved. Depending I feedback, I realize I will probably have to check in with a doc as well here. Wasn't certain where to post this one so pardon if this is a duplicate for you. A little background:

    37 yo
    5'11
    192 lbs
    Bf 10% (ish)
    Working out for the past 15 years with some breaks (running, weights, etc.)

    Finished up my last cycle in the beginning of december:
    1-13 test propionate 75 mg day
    2-7 trenbolone ace 60 mg day
    10-12 trenbolone E 100 mg day
    1-7 masteron 50 mg day
    6-11 Avanar 80 mg day / 100 mg day week 10+11
    6-11 Provironum 50 mg day / 100 mg day week 10+11
    2-13 aromasin 12.5 mg eod
    2-7 and 10-12 caber .5 mg e3d
    3-13 HCG - human chorionic gonadotropin - - human chorionic gonadotropin - - 250iu 2x week

    I started TRT after this cycle at 160mg test testosterone cypionate /week (2 x 80 mg per week). I have had low test prior to my first cycle. 2 years ago it was at about 330 (348-1197) and this past september it was 339. My doc suggested 200mg test testosterone cypionate once a month but I know this would have been a bad route to take as one injection per month would be a roller coaster ride.

    Also, mid December I started the following SARMS 8 week cycle::

    1-8 s4: 50 mg day = 25 mg in the AM and 25 mg six hours later.
    1-8 osta: 25 mg day dosed once in the AM
    1-8 gw: 20 mg day dosed twice a day - 10 mg in the AM and 10 mg twelve hours later

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    "knowledgable with bloodworm" ....you have a bloodworm?

    Some of the folk with more knowledge might come and evaluate...I'll just help bump your post.
    You should be feeling pretty good by the looks of it to me....maybe need to give blood, that might make you feel better and probably would be better off dropping down to 50mg twice a week and try to get rid of the AI in the near future.

    Be nice to see labs on a sensitive E2 and labs on the thyroid....

    Also, how much time was there between your last pin before the BW and the draw for the BW?
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    How do you feel?

    Why did you order bloodwork?

    Your liver is working harder than it should, but that should be knowledge you are aware of since the cocktail you are/were taking.

    Your iron is high. I would personally be looking at a full iron panel and make sure you aren't getting too much iron in the diet or have an iron storing genetic disease (which isn't super rare). Iron is very oxidative and too much is not a good thing.

    Other than that, I would say you could probably take less testosterone and still be in a good range.

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    I'm not really sure what you are asking to tell you the truth, or what your goal is. It is pretty difficult to read bloodwork if you are on SARMs . We need some baseline bloodwork to really suggest any possibilities. Most of these things outside of the normal range are because you are running a SARM, and not maybe not returning to baseline yet from your cycle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trific View Post
    "knowledgable with bloodworm" ....you have a bloodworm?

    Some of the folk with more knowledge might come and evaluate...I'll just help bump your post.
    You should be feeling pretty good by the looks of it to me....maybe need to give blood, that might make you feel better and probably would be better off dropping down to 50mg twice a week and try to get rid of the AI in the near future.

    Be nice to see labs on a sensitive E2 and labs on the thyroid....

    Also, how much time was there between your last pin before the BW and the draw for the BW?
    I just talked to my dad who is a doctor and he suggested I go down to 50mg 2x a week as well....so gonna take this step. He knows I am on test but doesnt know about all the other 'stuff'....dont want to give him a heart attack! I am going to drop the AI as well and see where my blood work comes back in 30 days...I was planning on starting something again mid March but this will depend how my blood work (worm) comes back. My last pin was December 14th and blood was taken on Jan 21st so a little over 5 weeks. thanks for your reply btw!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HRTstudent View Post
    How do you feel?

    Why did you order bloodwork?

    Your liver is working harder than it should, but that should be knowledge you are aware of since the cocktail you are/were taking.

    Your iron is high. I would personally be looking at a full iron panel and make sure you aren't getting too much iron in the diet or have an iron storing genetic disease (which isn't super rare). Iron is very oxidative and too much is not a good thing.

    Other than that, I would say you could probably take less testosterone and still be in a good range.
    I feel drained as hell to be honest...like I have overtrained....but I think how I feel is more of a result of a bad flu for 3 weeks and not being able to do much and then the past two weeks just trying to get back in to things....flu is gone now but my legs in particuliar feel heavy and fatigued as hell...like Ive been running 50 miles a week or something. Ordered blood work mostly out of curiosity. Just wanted to see where things were at post my last cycle and now that I am on TRT. yes, I think i kicked the shit out of my liver....I am knowledgable about the effects of the cocktail I was taking but unfortunately I am an idiot as well and ran more than I should and what would be helpful for my goals....live and learn....as I always read and KNOW....more is not better....but somehow got a little manic while on cycle and wanted to feel even better....dumb I realize....first cycle I ever did I kind of went a little manic too.... I was so damn excited with how good I felt I thought I discovered gold and bought a bigger supply of juice and varieties that I will EVER use....I am going to get a full iron panel with my bllod work next month to look in to this. Lastly, I agree with taking less Test....going down to 100mg/week moving forward. Thanks brother!

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    Quote Originally Posted by lacey23 View Post
    I'm not really sure what you are asking to tell you the truth, or what your goal is. It is pretty difficult to read bloodwork if you are on SARMs. We need some baseline bloodwork to really suggest any possibilities. Most of these things outside of the normal range are because you are running a SARM, and not maybe not returning to baseline yet from your cycle.
    thanks for your reply...I wondered about the SARMs and their effect on my blood work. Going to see where things come back after a month of being off them and just continuing to eat well, workout with more cardio, additional sups, etc. Should be able to get a good snapshot at the beginning of March I hope.

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