38onTRT 12 Week Bloodwork Round 2 Bi Weekly IM

[38onTRT]

These results are my Round 2 after 12 weeks. Protocol as of today..

6'2"
215
18ish BF% guesstimate going off my FitBit scale.. Shooting for 10% by June

75mg Twice a week IM- Totaling 150mg Weekly
250iu hCG Twice a week
NO AI...
2iu- The Good Stuff 5 on 2 off

Results...

Test Serum- 1052 348- 1197
Test Free- 44.18 5.00- 21.00 high
Estradiol Sensitive 95! 3- 70

PSA- 1.2 0.0- 4.0

IGF-1 383 69- 226

SHBG 21.6 16.5- 55.9

I'm not posting my RBC stuff as it is getting better and better so donating blood is working..

Previous, 6 week results and protocols were..

Stats

6'2"
230lbs
23-ish % BF Guesstimate going off my FitBit Scale..

50mg Twice a week(100mg Weekly SUB Q)
250iu hCG Twice a week
NO AI

estradiol, sensitive           12         3-70     pg/mL

% free testosterone                   3.75                     1.50-4.20     %
testosterone,free                   18.22                     5.00-21.00     ng/dL
testosterone, serum                   486                     348-1197     ng/dL

For me, I think 1052 is a bit high, so will adjust accordingly.. Estradiol is way up, which I had hoped would do after going to IM, so I am going to talk Doc into an AI tomorrow.. He called me this morning after getting my results, I asked him to send them over to me to look over before my appointment with him tomorrow.. It looks like, for me at least, going IM really helped with the spike in Serum, Free and E2.. I am thinking I should try IM and SubQ split up, this way I can possibly keep E2 in check without relying too much on an AI..

Thoughts???

Thanks for looking!

[HRTstudent]

It's hard to say if the different numbers had anything to do with the method of injecting. The bigger point is that you increased your dose by 50%.

And like you said, it does appear as though you are taking too much now. I would certainly agree with that. If a trough number is coming in just under max range, then you're living the vast majority of your life at a supraphysiologic dose.

If you're donating blood regularly, I would want to make sure one wasnt losing too much iron.

[38onTRT]

It's hard to say if the different numbers had anything to do with the method of injecting. The bigger point is that you increased your dose by 50%.

And like you said, it does appear as though you are taking too much now. I would certainly agree with that. If a trough number is coming in just under max range, then you're living the vast majority of your life at a supraphysiologic dose.

If you're donating blood regularly, I would want to make sure one wasnt losing too much iron.

RBC 5.72 4.14- 5.80
Hemo 18 12.6- 17.7
Hemat 52.1 37.5- 51

Barely a bit high for both. I was way high 12 weeks ago.

I have an Appt with the Doc tomorrow so we will see what he says.. I will push for an AI and go from there.

[LT75]

Time to start your AI. Go to the banner up top to get some if the dr doesn't give you one. You can also try natural with grape seed extract and zinc.

[kelkel]

Agree. Time to drop back. Was your BW taken basically the same time in your protocol? Go very slow with an AI if you take that path. Less is more!

[HRTstudent]

RBC 5.72 4.14- 5.80
Hemo 18 12.6- 17.7
Hemat 52.1 37.5- 51

Barely a bit high for both. I was way high 12 weeks ago.

I have an Appt with the Doc tomorrow so we will see what he says.. I will push for an AI and go from there.

Ask him to run a serum iron and ferritin to make sure all your donating is not depleting your iron.

[38onTRT]

Agree. Time to drop back. Was your BW taken basically the same time in your protocol? Go very slow with an AI if you take that path. Less is more!

Yes the labs were.. I will see what he says about the AI, I am familiar with the process, just want it to have it when needed.. I am going to start splitting the injections up between SubQ and IM now as going SubQ before really kept my E2 in check, maybe splitting them will help..

[38onTRT]

Ask him to run a serum iron and ferritin to make sure all your donating is not depleting your iron.

Good idea.

[38onTRT]

AI prescribed, lowered dosage to 125mg weekly. I will split those up, going IM and SubQ. Hoping to get the E2 under control with the Adex for a few weeks then see how I feel.

Guys on Adex, do you take 1/2 a pill twice a week? 1mg pills.. Thx!

[VTX1800]

AI prescribed, lowered dosage to 125mg weekly. I will split those up, going IM and SubQ. Hoping to get the E2 under control with the Adex for a few weeks then see how I feel.

Guys on Adex, do you take 1/2 a pill twice a week? 1mg pills.. Thx!

I take half a pill MWF. BUT my BW results cAme in yesterday and my e2 was 13.4 so currently Im going to lay off AI cometely until my next BW in 4 weeks then see where it falls. Im taking 200mg/ml a week IM (.5cc twice a week)

[38onTRT]

I take half a pill MWF. BUT my BW results cAme in yesterday and my e2 was 13.4 so currently Im going to lay off AI cometely until my next BW in 4 weeks then see where it falls. Im taking 200mg/ml a week IM (.5cc twice a week)

Thx buddy