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03-27-2013, 07:00 PM #41~ PLEASE DO NOT ASK FOR SOURCE CHECKS ~
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03-28-2013, 08:40 AM #42Member
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I might have to switch because the gel is raising my estrogen alot
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03-28-2013, 10:06 AM #43Member
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03-31-2013, 04:30 AM #45Associate Member
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Late to the responses but cardio and jabbing the bottom have been solid for 6 mos....
Now the real test - work has picked up and "fitting" in TRT and the gym......
Already preparing Dr letters to travel with HCG ugh.
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03-31-2013, 04:57 AM #46
That should be easy. I had a travel letter for Test and HGH. It was never questioned. More than likely they wont even ever look at it. Only 1x did I have anyone question what was inside my Styrofoam container I used with a small ice pack to keep it cool and I pointed to the letter and they said OK. Didnt even read the letter or look inside. lol
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03-31-2013, 06:35 AM #47
I have been pinning my quads for over a year now with no issues. I just swapped from a 23G 1" to a 25G 1" pin. It just takes longer to push the plunger but never any big issues. Sure i have hit nerve and my muscle moves and hops a little but i dont even find a new spot. I just push through it and continue to pin. I have done this on leg day, before hitting legs as well as the day after. For me its a ton easier then having to turn and use 2 hands to aspirate properly when hitting the glutes. I pin my HCG in the glutes but thats about it. Occasionally i will try to pin my Test there but remember how much a pain it is and swap back. When i first started I would only pin in my glutes but its like since i have stopped it has gotten a lot harder to pin there. I was thinking about trying the deltoids but have no clue how i could properly do it with just one hand. I would like to swap around but i just cant think of a good easy place to do it.
On a side note sometimes when pinning HCG in the glute I will get a bruise about the size of a quarter. Anyone know why this only happens sometimes or how to avoid it? Kinda hard to explain how i got it when the girlfriend asks.
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04-01-2013, 12:28 AM #48
This is what I do too. 25g, 1" . Never hit a nerve or artery. Going slow on insertion you can feel if youre near a nerve. Only nerve I ever hit lower body is sciatic when doing glutes. I NEVER shot glutes again after that. Like getting struck by lightning. First time in quads I had PIP so bad I was limping for 3 days but it gets better over time. I don't get any PIP at all anymore.
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04-01-2013, 03:19 AM #49Junior Member
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I did my first quad injection today with a 25g 1", no pain at all. I'm a bit worried about hitting a nerve after reading this though. What would be the best spot to hit in the quad to avoid nerves?
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04-01-2013, 05:07 AM #50Junior Member
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Anyone know if they make 27G in 1"? Or for those who do an IM protocol with 27G or above, do you use the 1/2" needles? Wouldn't those be too short to reach the muscle?
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04-01-2013, 05:39 AM #51
I was just wondering when doing quads do most of you have your leg straight or are you more like sitting in a chair with the leg bent @ 90 deg?
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04-01-2013, 07:26 AM #52
@Mikzsan I havent heard of anyone using a 27g pin to do IM injections. I use a 25 and its slow when injecting. I wouldent want to go to a 27 just because of that. There is no pain with the 25, well, I had no pain using the 23g pins. I just swapped to the 25 because of starting trt at a young age I did not want to have any issues with scar tissue later in life.
@Canesfan804 I sit on the counter or bed with my legs hanging off and give myself the injection. I like this method better then standing because it takes the pressure off of the muscle and for me is easier. I just get my stuff ready and place it next to the spot i will sit. Then sit on the counter and swap the area and proceed as normal. I very rarely use the bed because I dont want any other movement while injecting and the counter is stable. Not to mention if u ever have an issue with blood coming out of the injection sight the counter is easier to clean then a bed will be.
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04-01-2013, 10:31 AM #53Member
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Both times I have pinned I did so sitting on the edge of the couch. I don't know if that is the correct way or not but it worked just fine.
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04-02-2013, 08:32 AM #54Associate Member
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Hate to be redundant brother, but are you using that gauge and length IM? I use that size for my HCG in love handles or close to belly. In paramedic school (long time ago) SQ was taught to go at 45 degree angle wit beveled side up. How do you do IM and SQ? I currently use 25 g 1 inch for my quad IM injection (E5D 100mg) and HCG SQ 30 g 5/8 (250 every Wed and Sat) waiting for labs now.
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