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    DHEA micronized ?

    Can anyone recommend a DHEA supplement? I've noticed there is an array to choose from. Preferences?

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    I was going to buy some off amazon. Made by Mrm. Said micronized and HPLC tested for potency. Only $11 for 90 50 mg tabs
    Last edited by Moparman; 04-04-2013 at 02:16 PM.

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    Micronized MRM and LEF have been confirmed to work via blood labs. I have used both but currently use LEF.

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    $9 isn't a bad price but knowing something works
    With confirmed BW would be worth the price regardless.
    Thanks Mopar and Dave!

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    Just ordered the lef dhea from eBay $8.61 with free shipping.

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    Awesome!! I didn't see any at that price. Is that 50 mg? 90 pills?

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    I snagged these via Gdevine's recomnedation.
    http://www.dhea.com/product.php?prod...e=0&featured=Y
    they are slow releasing which is optimal for dhea!
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    ^^^^A bit pricey, but below compounding costs, and they are 100% Pharmacy Grade, Ultra Micronized and SR...worth it in my book when it comes to my HRT meds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jomamma007 View Post
    I snagged these via Gdevine's recomnedation.
    http://www.dhea.com/product.php?prod...e=0&featured=Y
    they are slow releasing which is optimal for dhea!
    I ordered both DHEA and Pregnenolone from them. Fast shipping and worth it imho.

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    I used MRM micronized DHEA and had blood work to show it was potent. 25mg more than doubled my levels (have a thread on it)... can't say I noticed an effect though lol.

    It's very cheap. They also test SOME of their batches, but not all. I look for some degree of quality control in OTC supps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HRTstudent View Post
    I used MRM micronized DHEA and had blood work to show it was potent. 25mg more than doubled my levels (have a thread on it)... can't say I noticed an effect though lol.

    It's very cheap. They also test SOME of their batches, but not all. I look for some degree of quality control in OTC supps.
    Sounds like it works for blood levels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MickeyKnox

    I ordered both DHEA and Pregnenolone from them. Fast shipping and worth it imho.
    Ditto. Good stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by HRTstudent
    I used MRM micronized DHEA and had blood work to show it was potent. 25mg more than doubled my levels (have a thread on it)... can't say I noticed an effect though lol.

    It's very cheap. They also test SOME of their batches, but not all. I look for some degree of quality control in OTC supps.
    I can vouch for MRM branded methyl B-12 as well. Can't beat the price of their products.

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    MRM may have failed miserably for me. (Still investigating). Recent bloodwork does not look good at all.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    MRM may have failed miserably for me. (Still investigating). Recent bloodwork does not look good at all.
    what a tease, lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by HRTstudent View Post
    what a tease, lol
    lol, I hate to post results just yet. To be honest, I really think the lab screwed up. a couple of my results just simply do not make any sense. Maybe Ill post later for some critique.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moparman View Post
    Awesome!! I didn't see any at that price. Is that 50 mg? 90 pills?
    That was 25mg 90 count. The eBay listing showed they had 9 more bottles at that price, free shipping

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    I plan on running the LEF 25mgs then will check on dhea levels after 6 weeks and will look into the more expensive supps that you guys have mentioned above.
    I'm hoping to get some energy and a more enhanced libido from the dhea. I know it's not a miracle pill but as I've stated in my new protocol thread, I'm just not feeling like I should be. I'm six weeks in on TRT and I still have NO sex drive what so ever, stay fatigued and look for nap by lunch every single day. I am experiencing some great gains in the gym but not getting my BF down to 15 from 25 like I want.

    Honestly I just assumed I would feel like a new person by this stage in my treatment. My 6wk BW was taken yesterday so results will be in Monday for estrogen, t levels, blood cell count. I have an appointment with my primary care dr. Next week who takes insurance unlike my TRT specialist, he had me on androgel but isn't up to date on TRT so I will get a full panel BW check that will only cost me $20.

    Just really wana know why my sex drive and libido is trashed. I will be 30 in a few days and I know I should feel much better than I do now.

    Thank you all for your input regarding DHEA options.

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    VTX 6 weeks is nothing...took me 3 months before I even started to see and feel results.

    You need to have reasonable expectations.

    See the sticky on how long things take.

    Did you get cortisol, prolactin, DHT and progesterone tested as well?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VTX1800 View Post
    That was 25mg 90 count. The eBay listing showed they had 9 more bottles at that price, free shipping
    Oh ok. I need 100 mg a day do its best if I go w the 50s

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    Quote Originally Posted by gdevine View Post
    VTX 6 weeks is nothing...took me 3 months before I even started to see and feel results.

    You need to have reasonable expectations.

    See the sticky on how long things take.

    Did you get cortisol, prolactin, DHT and progesterone tested as well?

    I know my body is still adjusting, and I know I have a LONG way to go. I guess I just read so many hyped up success stories of guys who discovered a major transformation just in how they feel 6 weeks into it. I have read the sticky on how long TRT takes, I'm just a little frustrated but there is still hope!
    As for cortisol, prolactin,dht and progesterone... I WILL have those tested next week when I so BW for my PCP. I can get insurance to handle the majority of BW and just have to pay $20 copay. My TRT doctor only wanted to check estradiol,test, free test overall test, and CDC. ??? I know, Im not sure why either and she wants to see me again in 6 months. I guess I didn't argue the BW because I knew I would be having blood drawn the next week and it would be cheaper. Had to pay $173 for BW and office visit at the TRT/anti aging dr. They won't take insurance.

    She has me on clomid and hcg , I can't believe she wouldn't wnt to run test to see how that's doing. GD, what test do I need to run to check and make sure hcg and clomid are working? LH FSH?

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    Quote Originally Posted by VTX1800 View Post
    I plan on running the LEF 25mgs then will check on dhea levels after 6 weeks and will look into the more expensive supps that you guys have mentioned above.
    I'm hoping to get some energy and a more enhanced libido from the dhea. I know it's not a miracle pill but as I've stated in my new protocol thread, I'm just not feeling like I should be. I'm six weeks in on TRT and I still have NO sex drive what so ever, stay fatigued and look for nap by lunch every single day. I am experiencing some great gains in the gym but not getting my BF down to 15 from 25 like I want.

    Honestly I just assumed I would feel like a new person by this stage in my treatment. My 6wk BW was taken yesterday so results will be in Monday for estrogen, t levels, blood cell count. I have an appointment with my primary care dr. Next week who takes insurance unlike my TRT specialist, he had me on androgel but isn't up to date on TRT so I will get a full panel BW check that will only cost me $20.

    Just really wana know why my sex drive and libido is trashed. I will be 30 in a few days and I know I should feel much better than I do now.

    Thank you all for your input regarding DHEA options.

    No need to switch to a more expensive, LEF micronized works great. I have many blood labs to confirm. Take 25mg with breakfast and lunch and you should be good to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moparman View Post
    Oh ok. I need 100 mg a day do its best if I go w the 50s

    Be careful, I use to take 100mg per day (1 morning dose) and my levels were super high and I am almost positive this was the reason for my high estrogen levels.

    If you do take 100mg, I would do 50mg at breakfast and lunch.

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    Hmmmm I was thinking 100 mg based on the sticky on Hcg . It said men should take 75-100 mg for >200 lbs. I'm 270.

    I already have high E from the trt. Ankles swell up like a sonofabitch. I don't need more!!

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    Thanks for the heads up. I just googles it and sure enough it said DHEA can raise test AND estrogen. Dagnabbit. Not something I need.

    I jst cancelled my order.

    I read that 7 Keto DHEA has no androgenic effects. Maybe I need that instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moparman
    Thanks for the heads up. I just googles it and sure enough it said DHEA can raise test AND estrogen. Dagnabbit. Not something I need.

    I jst cancelled my order.

    I read that 7 Keto DHEA has no androgenic effects. Maybe I need that instead.
    No, don't get 7 keto. Just get 25mg micronized and take twice a day then confirm via blood work. This seems to be ideal for the majority of us and is a good starting point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moparman View Post
    Hmmmm I was thinking 100 mg based on the sticky on Hcg . It said men should take 75-100 mg for >200 lbs. I'm 270.

    I already have high E from the trt. Ankles swell up like a sonofabitch. I don't need more!!
    For me, I'm already taking anastrozole .5mg twice a week so Im not super conserved about elevated estrogen. If I had my TRT dialed in and did not need an AI the. I doubt I'd mess with dhea unless my BW was just super low. I'm looking forward to adding it to my regime. Lol hope I benefit from it and just don't load up on the negative side effects which that's usually how things go for me.

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    So definitely take 1 50mg at lunch and one at breakfast. ? I read guys were taking both for breakfast. Hmmmn

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    I'm taking 1mg of anastrazole twice a week and still swelling up. Although my timing was out of whack. I might try 3 x a week

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moparman View Post
    I'm taking 1mg of anastrazole twice a week and still swelling up. Although my timing was out of whack. I might try 3 x a week
    I'd split that up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by austinite View Post
    I'd split that up.
    Your taking quite a bit if AI, and still swelling? That's odd, what was your e2 and when was the last time it was checked? My doc prescribed me .5 mwf but my BW showed my e2 at 13 and that's when I was on androgel so I decided to back off and only take twice a week, day after injection. I'm hoping I just don't turn estrogen. We shall see!

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    My E2 hasn't been checked since I started trt. But my estradiol (regular test not the sensitive) was 28 before I started. I'll request another test to see where I'm at.

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