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10-04-2013, 03:13 PM #41New Member
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I just started with them (only a few weeks in) and so far its been really smooth and easy from getting the blood work done to the docs visit. They vet their doctors in the program and their up to speed on the latest protocols. Mine was very easy going and had no problem prescribing me HCG and a AI (if I need it) to go along with the Test C injections. Customer service so far has been fantastic, I must have called them at least 12 times in the past few asking all kind of nervous newbie questions and they have always been pleasant an knowledgeable.
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10-04-2013, 04:22 PM #42~ HRT Specialist ~
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What the other guys have been saying is correct but I'll try to break it all down clearly for you:
1. You are required to see the doctor face-to-face once per year. At 6 months, there is an optional office visit if he patient feels it is needed. If the patient is local, the Dr. reserves the right to call the patient in for a 6 month checkup if they deem it necessary.
2. Blood work: You are required to have an initial blood test, one 6wks into treatment, one 6 months into treatment and every 6 months after that. These are covered by the program. If for some reason the doctor requires an additional blood test, it is covered. If at anytime you would like to have an additional blood test not included by the doctor or ordered by the physician, you can purchase one for $99. The $99 blood test includes Total and Free testosterone, CBC, CHMP 14 and estradiol. Other panels may be added for a small fee.
3. All injections can be done by you. If you would like to have one of the doctors or nurses do it for you, most will charge $15-$20 per injection, but most choose to do it on their own.
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10-04-2013, 04:26 PM #43
Sounds like a good deal IMO. I'd jump on it if I wasnt already in a similar program, but mine includes full Men's Health Care at a little more per month...
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10-05-2013, 12:27 AM #44
Thanks to both of you senior members! I've made the plunge and signed up and even paid ahead for the whole year in order to get that $200 off. I spoke with a rep named Robert who was just awesome. He answered all of my questions and I had to call three times with additional questions and the calls were answered every time and I always got to speak to a live person and didn't sit on hold for any length of time.
Already have my lab set up for first thing Monday morning and can't wait to get started. Oh, and my endo told me with regards to my wife and I wanting to conceive again, "you may have to hold off on any TRT until after you guys go ahead and get pregnant." ??? Seriously? That's when I brought up HCG and she acted as if I asked her to come rob a bank with me. She seemed very uncomfortable and that's when my appointment sort of abruptly ended. Although she assured me she wasn't just trying to push Androgel on me. She said the dose I would be prescribed would not be enough to alter my estrogen levels or create the necessity to take anything else to balance any other hormones. So although she was trying to wrap up the appt, this is when I mentally checked out of her rant. I knew I had to so some research. So glad I am set up with lowtestosterone.com. I can't wait to get started. 192 is super low and I can't believe I am even functioning on a level this low. I can only imagine what it will feel like to be not only at a normal level, but an OPTOMAL level!
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10-05-2013, 09:17 AM #45
I've been with lowt.com for almost 2 months now. I have to say that I had a lot of questions and bothered Rosie A LOT but she never failed to answer my questions and handle any issues that I had. Top notch customer service in my book.
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10-05-2013, 01:31 PM #46Owner
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This makes me VERY happy to see! Much appreciation goes out to the members here who have signed up to our program and to the staff that come in day in/ day out to provide excellence to our clients!! Without those staff members who actually CARE out our clients... there wouldnt BE a LowTestosterone.com! Awesome posts here guys!
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10-05-2013, 05:35 PM #47AR Admin
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10-05-2013, 07:46 PM #48
It's also pretty nuts that when I first went to the urologist BEFORE the endocrinologist, (this was the Doc who broke the news to me that I was 192 testosterone .) I had asked him if he was going to try to get my levels back into the 600s and he said, "Frankly, I'd be happy to get you in the 300s, let's not get ahead of ourselves." I then booked my appointment with the endo and she is supposed to be the best of the best and the most she would do is prescribe Androgel . This is the one who balked at the inquiry on HCG and whether or not it'd be used in her protocol.
I am so thrilled that I live somewhere in the country that I am going to be able to get the correct treatment and a current and modern protocol. There's no need to lose my testicles into a collagen sac, and have my moods elevated and crashing on a roller coaster. I'm also thrilled to be getting a regular FULL blood panel done in addition to the cutting edge treatment.
Guys, I'm dizzy so often, I can sleep 8 hours a night and wake up and not want to get out of bed. I'm pretty in shape for a 40 year old. Actually I'm told I'm pretty in shape for a 20 year old! I eat SUPER clean and work out every other day in the gym. It's not for lack of trying to keep my testosterone up, it's the pituitary tumor which killed my pituitary function. I'm normally super motivated, super active, and have a really good libido...how I miss those days. I long to get them back. I have the most trouble concentrating and getting sentences out. I forget things so often. I used to be called "elephant" by my best friend, because I remember things from when we were 6 years old and now I can't remember what I had for lunch.
I chalked all of this up to getting older and maybe having a 2 year old was just wearing me out. But when I really noticed something was terribly wrong was when I could not have normal sexual function with my wife. We were trying for another one and I just had such trouble with our relations that she thought it was her. I assured her that it wasn't and then that's when I told her I think something was wrong. I started the dr appointments and blood tests. This is where I started really spinning my wheels. I had the low t diagnoses, I had the MRI to verify that I had a non-functioning pituitary tumor, and I had two doctors who really didn't want to do anything but let me slather on some gel without regard for what else would happen. I was told I'd "learn to deal with it."
Can't wait to get the blood work back so I can get my appointment with the Dr. and get started on getting my life back. I'm so worn out, but the prospect of actually FEELING better again within the next few months really makes me want to forge ahead and keep going.
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10-05-2013, 09:07 PM #49Banned
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10-05-2013, 09:15 PM #50Originally Posted by LFH40
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10-06-2013, 01:41 PM #53AR Admin
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10-07-2013, 03:28 AM #54Associate Member
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So far I think it has the best service. I have tried a couple of different ones, and at the time did not know what kind of bad treatment I was recieving. I felt as if I was on a hormone roller coaster. The people at LOW T finally got my E@ perfect and feeling great every since. The others would just tell me to increase my dose to feel better< and at that time i gained more fat than anything. It seems like as soon as my e level was in the optimal range fat fell off overnite, and the energy is great. I can thank these guys enough.
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10-07-2013, 09:27 AM #55~ HRT Specialist ~
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I can't tell you how many guys I've seen come to us from other programs to ours who their doctor has steadily increased their testosterone dose, 300mg/wk isn't that uncommon with one certain well-known program out there but when we get their labs they are horrible! Testosterone levels may or may not be high...I've actually seen a few guys on 300mg/wk with test levels below 700 and in all these cases their estradiol is pushing 100+. Now when our physician ends up starting them on a lower dose of testosterone, this can mess with their head a little bit and sometimes they get a little upset. They've been feeling like crap and now their testosterone dose is lower and that just doesn't make sense to them. But as you know Joe, bring down the estradiol and testosterone goes up and everything else starts to fall inline.
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10-07-2013, 11:23 AM #56Banned
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10-09-2013, 12:09 PM #57
Lab work back from Low T already!!
Well, I got my labwork back already from LabCorp via Lowtestosterone.com. I made my appointment and I go FRIDAY already! So happy!
I'm shocked to find out what a variance I have in my testosterone levels . I had blood work done from a urologist a month ago when I started all this and it came back as total test 192. I just got my results back from the latest lab (just a quick over the phone result, so I don't have the FULL results) and I found out that my total test right now is 433?! BUT- my free test is in the toilet and at only a 6.8. So regardless of the total test, my test is still considered low.
Had I stayed with my urologist and endo, I would not even be treated! They would probably tell me 433 is fine considering that's all they wanted me to get to in the first place!
I have NO morning erections for years, no sex drive, feeling "off" for quite some time now. I try to get into the gym, but I'm just not motivated as I don't get the results. I'm "cut" if you want to say that, for a 40 year old, and low body fat, but- just non-motivated to do other things whether it be socially, sexually, or physically. I have a hard time formulating a sentence because of the brain fog.
What can cause test levels (total test) to jump up and down like that? The only thing I did different is add healthy fats into my diet more, e.g. coconut oil, natural peanut butter, grass fed butter... Can just THAT alone cause such a jump in such a short period of time? I was using myfitnesspal.com app on my phone and tracking my macros - was using a 40p/40c/20f ratio, but I have to add that my last blood test with the urologist was performed at 5:30pm...the AFTERNOON!!! Why would an educated professional have me taking a testosterone test in the afternoon?
Either way, I am going to my appointment on Friday and getting ready for a course of action on CURRENT protocol and I am excited to feel normal again.
Any veterans have any feedback for me? THANK you all so much. Such an awesome community here and glad I went with lowtestosterone.com
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10-09-2013, 12:36 PM #58Banned
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blood work is rarely 100 percent accurate. numbers jump around a lot/ it also depends on the day, some days we are healthier than others. my t has jumped from 277 to 535 down to the 400s again at the 300s..i think it might have been 600 something too at one point. these are numbers before i started taking hcg and over a 5 yr period
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10-09-2013, 05:56 PM #59
433ng/dl is the low end of the normal range, so if I'm at the low end and my free test is 6.8, that would still be considered pretty crappy, correct? I know something is going on with me. No morning erections for years and no erection quality enough for sex and when it is, without constant stimulation is just goes limp. VERY VERY frustrating to say the least.
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10-09-2013, 08:04 PM #60Associate Member
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What was your estradiol?
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10-09-2013, 08:11 PM #61Member
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Money aside, the honest and reliable infinite gotten from Lowt.com is more than I could ask for from any doc I've dealt with. I spent over an hour on the phone with Justin yesterday and it was priceless to have that kind of care regarding what is right for me moving forward. The flexibility is key as well. But I doubt I would change service just to save $50. There are great docs avail 24/7
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10-09-2013, 08:43 PM #62
To be honest, I didn't see the doctor yet. I will on forgay morning. So I had only asked on the phone what my free and total test was. I guess I'll find that out on Friday. I'm so antsy to get in there. I feel like a hermit and don't even wanna leave the house. This isn't like me, I'm a very social person. I'm fine being on the bed watching tv with my 2 year old when I'm off work. It shouldn't be that way. 6.8 is in the toilet for free test as far as I'm concerned. Wouldn't you agree?
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10-09-2013, 08:46 PM #63Banned
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10-09-2013, 09:19 PM #64
Thank you powerlifterty16. I really appreciate your understanding for my situation too. Since my 192 diagnoses, I've been taking vitamin d3, and eating more healthy fats. However, I don't think just that alone in one month brought my levels up 240 ng/dl. I think it also has to do with the most recent test being done first thing in the morning and the last one was done late in the afternoon. Also, I was never given my free test number for the first blood test.
Fortunately I was told by the people at lowtestosterone that I was eligible for services because even though my total test was over 350, my FREE test was way low at 6.8. So it's obvious something is going wrong with my testosterone levels . Friday is the day and I'm certain that the test will be shipped out and I should be started by next week sometime! CAN'T WAIT!!!
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10-09-2013, 09:24 PM #65Associate Member
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Yeah, that's low. Post your bloodwork when you get it. I'm with lowt. com also. Log in at lowtnetwork .com. You'll be able to access your bloodwork and check out how to re order your prescriptions. Pretty cool! There's a forum there too. You'll find some of the more knowledgeable members on there.
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10-09-2013, 09:27 PM #66Banned
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vitamin d3 is powerful stuff. it definitely raises testosterone . my t went from 277 to 470ish after i optimized my d3. this was many years ago though, not my t hovers in the mid 300s without hcg .
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10-09-2013, 09:28 PM #67
Jay, thanks! I am registered on the lowtnetwork, there's a way I can access my bloodwork on there? I don't see anything uploaded yet. Is that after the dr. appt?
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10-09-2013, 09:34 PM #68Associate Member
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10-09-2013, 09:41 PM #69
Thanks!!!!
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10-10-2013, 10:12 AM #70
Sorry, I have to figure out how to post my results...I messed it up
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10-10-2013, 12:03 PM #72
I don't think LowT tests for E2 or estrogen on the initial bloodwork. Perhaps after you start course of therapy? One month ago I was 192 total, (unknown free test), and 1.6 for my LH.
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10-10-2013, 12:59 PM #73Junior Member
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No E2 on my initial BW either. The 6 week results included it. I would like to have seen T3/4 as well, but I guess that's not specifically a testosterone issue.
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10-10-2013, 06:34 PM #74Associate Member
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Thats right about the first test and E. I forgot. I had bloodwork by my general practitioner before joining lowt and I'm glad I did. Gives me a vantage point on how my E reacted to the supplemented Test. My E was in the high 40's before treatment. My GP gave me one injection of 100mg of Test Cyp. After adding Test my E went down into the 20's. Now about four days later I joined lowt and my doc put me on 1/2 mg of arimidex a week "at my request because I had gyne surgery prior and was having sensitive nips". After that my E went to 17. Pretty much don't need an AI now that I'm use to treatment and don't have sensitive nips anymore.
You'll get that in six weeks. My bad.
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