doesit even matter if they findout why your t is low?

[dreadnok89]

What can be done to fix it?

[austinite]

Not sure I'm understanding the question, but the ultimate goal is to find out why your T is low. It's always best to resolve the issue from where it stems from. So yes, I would say it not only matters, it's crucial.

Depending on the cause, there are many different ways of treating it. Not always Testosterone therapy .

[Times Roman]

the reason for low T is not always clear. My doc didn't even bother to make a determination, and just chalked it up to the normal aging problem.

[steroid.com 1]

Yes, a diagnosis needs to be conducted. There are many serious medical conditions ranging from Cancer to Diabetes to Pituitary and Hypothalamus pathologies to many types of tumors that can cause low androgen levels.

I'd want to know...and if there is a androgen dependent malignancy in my body I'd want to know for sure before I started any TRT protocol.

Besides age related androgen and life style deficiency something is causing the low serum levels...and if one is under 35 a clinical diagnosis is a must and only good healthcare practice.

[asiandudexxx]

Yes, a diagnosis needs to be conducted. There are many serious medical conditions ranging from Cancer to Diabetes to Pituitary and Hypothalamus pathologies to many types of tumors that can cause low androgen levels.

I'd want to know...and if there is a androgen dependent malignancy in my body I'd want to know for sure before I started any TRT protocol.

Besides age related androgen and life style deficiency something is causing the low serum levels...and if one is under 35 a clinical diagnosis is a must and only good healthcare practice.

This.

If your body has an underlying condition which causes low T as well as other problems, simply raising T won't solve the other symptoms your condition may cause.

You also may develop other problems/symptoms you didn't have before, almost like when plugging up a leak, it may just cause the leak to spring up somewhere else.

[chronos]

If I were younger, (like many here?), that would be my foremost concern too. I would want to know what's causing a low T condition, rather than jumping automatically to a TRT solution. It might be tempting if you're a weighlifter, but that's too many years to live with the prospect of shutting your productivity down and being on HRT for the rest of your life. As a middle-aged man, like myself, maybe not so much.

I am curious about the age spread of forum members here.

[Metalject]

Maybe I'm wrong but I would bet 95%+ of all low testosterone cases are simply due to age, diet and exercise habits and use of various medications. If you change these factors (excluding age) will this improve your low level condition? Perhaps a little but it's highly unlikely it would improve enough to take you from a low level state to an optimal state. 99% of the time you're not going to cure low testosterone , you can only remedy it. Yes, I understand you can try for recovery and they sometimes work but not often. And let's say it is caused by cancer or something like that, well you've got much bigger problems than low testosterone. In most cases, if your low you simply need testosterone. Kind of like you need gas when your car's on E.

[powerlifterty16]

Maybe I'm wrong but I would bet 95%+ of all low testosterone cases are simply due to age, diet and exercise habits and use of various medications. If you change these factors (excluding age) will this improve your low level condition? Perhaps a little but it's highly unlikely it would improve enough to take you from a low level state to an optimal state. 99% of the time you're not going to cure low testosterone, you can only remedy it. Yes, I understand you can try for recovery and they sometimes work but not often. And let's say it is caused by cancer or something like that, well you've got much bigger problems than low testosterone. In most cases, if your low you simply need testosterone. Kind of like you need gas when your car's on E.

unfortunately my case isnt due to those things, except maybe diet. I am 23, try to avoid pills, and have been lifting hard forever. My diet is my only weakness, since ive always been a skinny bitch, and require lots of food to keep on weight(and since i train for strength)..i eat ''bulking diet''. I still dont think that's an excuse to have a t level of 339 with no fee t to speak of..especially since sat fat helps t production!!

I also have high cortisol, so im hoping that lowering that through phospatidyl serine will restore my t levels to the 600 area....but if it doesnt..im going to find a dr to treat with trt.

[steroid.com 1]

Maybe I'm wrong but I would bet 95%+ of all low testosterone cases are simply due to age, diet and exercise habits and use of various medications. If you change these factors (excluding age) will this improve your low level condition? Perhaps a little but it's highly unlikely it would improve enough to take you from a low level state to an optimal state. 99% of the time you're not going to cure low testosterone, you can only remedy it. Yes, I understand you can try for recovery and they sometimes work but not often. And let's say it is caused by cancer or something like that, well you've got much bigger problems than low testosterone. In most cases, if your low you simply need testosterone. Kind of like you need gas when your car's on E.

I'd take that bet.

A few of the biggest culprits are Hypothyroidism, Adenomas, Diabetes and Metabolic Syndrome among a host of other medical things.

Read the sticky on the Etiology of Hypogonadism that Marcus posted as it does a good job of presenting a whole host of clinical conditions beyond lifestyle causes.

That being said, age related androgen deficiency and lifestyle IMO do play a major part in low serum levels but I wouldn't go as far as 95%+.

[steroid.com 1]

Maybe I'm wrong but I would bet 95%+ of all low testosterone cases are simply due to age, diet and exercise habits and use of various medications. If you change these factors (excluding age) will this improve your low level condition? Perhaps a little but it's highly unlikely it would improve enough to take you from a low level state to an optimal state. 99% of the time you're not going to cure low testosterone, you can only remedy it. Yes, I understand you can try for recovery and they sometimes work but not often. And let's say it is caused by cancer or something like that, well you've got much bigger problems than low testosterone. In most cases, if your low you simply need testosterone. Kind of like you need gas when your car's on E.

edit: Double Post.

[BallSak]

Traumatic Brain Injury is another big one. I know from personal experience unfortunately.

[BallSak]

unfortunately my case isnt due to those things, except maybe diet. I am 23, try to avoid pills, and have been lifting hard forever. My diet is my only weakness, since ive always been a skinny bitch, and require lots of food to keep on weight(and since i train for strength)..i eat ''bulking diet''. I still dont think that's an excuse to have a t level of 339 with no fee t to speak of..especially since sat fat helps t production!!

I also have high cortisol, so im hoping that lowering that through phospatidyl serine will restore my t levels to the 600 area....but if it doesnt..im going to find a dr to treat with trt.

When is the last time you took a couple months off of lifting? This may be all you need to restore your levels.

[tigerspawn]

Not sure I'm understanding the question, but the ultimate goal is to find out why your T is low. It's always best to resolve the issue from where it stems from. So yes, I would say it not only matters, it's crucial.

Depending on the cause, there are many different ways of treating it. Not always Testosterone therapy.

^^x2^^

[tigerspawn]

Just because you’re on TRT doesn’t mean you have low T. There are 23 local guys that I have talked to who are on TRT. They all state that they are on TRT because they have low T. When we discussed their T levels 22 of them are medically WNL for their age in gender. I could understand Dr. prescribing TRT for individuals WNL if it was on low side of NL. However these 22 individuals are all above the midline of the NL. Fifteen of them had levels that were on the high end of the NL. Only one individual that I talked to had levels that met protocol for TRT.

[powerlifterty16]

with all due respect, I doubt it...and i wouldnt do it anyway, because i get sloppy very fast LOL. I've always been small and weak. Freshman yr of highschool I was 5'8 110 pounds lol. Then sophomore year I was 6'0 125. It took me many years of lifting to be 6'2 160, and now im 200ish.

Im rambling, but Im pretty sure I've never had anywhere near the T i should have

[BallSak]

You would be surprised. There is a reason your cortisol is high. Your adrenals take a long time to recover. I've been there... and it sucks.

[powerlifterty16]

You are right that exercise induces cortisol, but I doubt most serious lifters, have out of range cortisol....and hypogonadism..especially at 23. Besides, im so tired lately and take forever to recover that ibarely lift anymore regardless.

[dreadnok89]

Sorry for the late response. But my way of thinking is it has gone done consistently over the last 10 years. If it was cancer or diabetes I would be dead by now. Plus my blood sugar is always top notch. I was thinking genetics as well. I been reading about how this is a huge problem in the united states. Also how they fix any of these other ailments that affect it. Or is it it pretty much game over

[dreadnok89]

Just cause your skinny has nothing to do with your test. Its more metabolism. You got a pretty damn good one if you can't keep weight on! It is odd tho couple my friends got tested after mine kept coming back low, they are small skinny guys and their yes readings were all over 1000 lol. You cannot tell without bloodtests

[powerlifterty16]

when u lift for nearly 10 years, it's more than metabolism man lol...and i have had my testosterone checked prob 10 times n my 23 y/o life..always low :P

[dreadnok89]

Then what your saying is I should be skinny too? Which I'm not. I'm saying your skinny cause your metabolism is insanely good. Even if your t was normal or high you would still have to eat like a titan if your metabolism is extremely active. I'm 34 and been lifting since I was 17 and still put muscle on with constant low t. The only test I touched was androgel which I started a year and half ago

[dreadnok89]

You should also go by how you feel. Everyone's numbers are different

[powerlifterty16]

What im saying is, you dont have as much muscle as you should have..whether you are fat or skinny. I should have a lot more muscle given my life circumstances.

Then what your saying is I should be skinny too? Which I'm not. I'm saying your skinny cause your metabolism is insanely good. Even if your t was normal or high you would still have to eat like a titan if your metabolism is extremely active. I'm 34 and been lifting since I was 17 and still put muscle on with constant low t. The only test I touched was androgel which I started a year and half ago

[dreadnok89]

I don't know man. Personally I went on hrt cause I felt beyond terrible. The muscle benefit is just a nice side. 23 is ridicously young too as you know very well I bet for hrt. Genetics plays a huge roll as well. But I swear that muscle benefit was thee farthest thing from my mind per hrt