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    how to talk to my endo??

    Im 20yrs old and have done 2 cycle of AAS when I was 17 and 18.. TT is 203.. then 215 the second time I did blood work. I haven't touched any more AAS since..

    I'm going to see my endo again tommrw and I need some help on how I should talk to him..
    I know that try has great benefits when dialed in properly but I'm not trying to pin myself for the rest of my life plus financially I don't know if I will be stable in the future

    I need some help on explaining what the restart is to my doc in simplest terms and how it works...i v read a lot about it but I'm still not sure how to put it into words so he will understand what I'm trying to do..

    And I really need some advice on what I should take for a restart, like should I take HCG , clomid and nolvadex ? Or just clomid? Or just clomid and nolvadex? And how should I dose them?

    Please help a dude out on this one fellas, I'd appreciate it

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    don't do anything on your own, you know what happened last time?! be honest with him, tell him everything and read the stickies especially the Finding a Physician, lots of good information in the stickies.

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    Yea man I have been talking to him about this for a good 2 months now..it seems he only know about going the trt route, and I'm having a hard time explaining a restart protocol to him..should I bring some info I have found online to him?.because he doesnt know that i might be able to do a restart protocol to my natural test back to normal levels..

    My question is, how do I explain to my doc how it works..in terms that he will understand. Cruz I'm having a hard time making him believe what m saying to him..

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    The protocol I gave you in your last post was by Michael Scally, MD and presented before American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists,. Print it give it to him to review

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    That's what I was going to do actually.. just getting some reassurance bro. you think that is the best protocol option I have?

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    It was designed for guys just like you. Considering he is a Harvard medical Grad and one of the most respected in the field. Yes I do but its up to you and you doctor to decide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 100% View Post
    The protocol I gave you in your last post was by Michael Scally, MD and presented before American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists,. Print it give it to him to review
    Just getting caught up in this thread. Are you referring to Scally's Power PCT Protocol?
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    Yes he has prior steroid abuse never recovered.

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    Got that. Was curious what protocol of Scally's was recommended. Agree it would be a good choice, although the op may be able to reduce the amount of HCG as his HPTA is still functional. Getting a doc willing to go through with it will be the issue, IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Got that. Was curious what protocol of Scally's was recommended. Agree it would be a good choice, although the op may be able to reduce the amount of HCG as his HPTA is still functional. Getting a doc willing to go through with it will be the issue, IMO.
    Kelkel it would be nice if would could add Scally's Power PCT Protocol for guy in this situation and Dr. Shippen's HCG Protocol for mono therapy to the sticky. There are lot of young guys on here not understanding the difference.

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    Good idea! I'll look into that.

    Thank you!
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