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    Finally got my bw in.. doesn't look good

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    My doctor just skimmed through it and told me what was high, his solution: lower my test dose to .50 every Sunday instead of. 75..

    So now what should I really do? Still taking that formexx black eod but I'm gonna push it up to everyday until I can order an ai off ar-r ... anything else anyone can suggest? Does my rbc look ok?

    Thanks guys.. doing my best not to flip out on my Dr here

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    get a new doc
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    Quote Originally Posted by chi
    get a new doc
    Agreed get a new one

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    I agree with you fellas 100%, but what can I do in the meantime to make sure I try and level myself out?

    I'm pretty freaked out over my high estrogen levels.. and I believe that was when I was taking the formexx black everyday.. maybe I should think about doubling it up for now..

    a little help here guys? :/
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    Joe, your assay is a total estrogen serum. Before we get into a panic mode, you need to get a "Estradiol (E2) Sensitive" assay. This is the male standard used by A4M certified physicians, and anyone who knows how to treat hypogonadism effectively. Although, your E2 could still be elevated, you might find it's not as bad as anticipated. Get that so we can offer some accurate suggestions.

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    And yeah, this and everything else basically suggests your doctor isn't the best choice for hormonal support.

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    Why is it that every doc I talk to under the sun nay-says the sensitive E2 test?

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    Thanks for the reply Vette!

    Is there any way to figure out that number by calculating it against my total free, etc?

    If not, I think I'm going to have to request my own labs because my Dr didn't even want to run my Estrogen level at all because he said it's never been a problem before because the amount of test he prescribes isn't enough to raise it to a significant level.. I know all the things I can say against this but why bother? I gave him the HCG stickie and he basically threw it in the trash..

    What might explain the high free test?

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    I do my own sensitive test every six months. $68 is worth piece of mind.
    Hopefully, lowt.com gets their private lab up and running

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    Why is it that every doc I talk to under the sun nay-says the sensitive E2 test?
    Many don't even know what it is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ZenFitness View Post
    Why is it that every doc I talk to under the sun nay-says the sensitive E2 test?
    Because they do not specialize in this field, and frankly there's just a ton of them that let their egos and lack of knowledge get in the way. The non-sensitive assay was designed for females, and is very difficult to use as a reliable metric for male hormonal management. OP's sensitive E2 could rise or drop by 10 points and non-sensitive assay might only vary a few points. The doctors you are talking to don't see the big picture on this. Keep in mind, those same doctors figure your testosterone is normal if it ranges 280ng to 900ng. Big variance, and anything but "normal" from one end to the other ...

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    No comment on my hematocrit? How does it look after having been on for a month?

    Should I stick to lowering to .50cc a week?

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