Sh-t Show..

**m_donnelly** · 08-01-2013, 08:11 AM

Here's my lab results:

Testosterone : 250 ng/mL (300-1080)
Sex Hormone Binding Globulin: 22 nmol/mL
Free Testosterone: 54 pg/mL (47-90)
% Free Testosterone: 2.2 (1.9-2.6)
FSH: 2
LH: 2.4
Estradiol: 21

5'10''
275lbs
25% BF
33 years old
Past steroid and pro-hormone usgage.

These are original lab results from about two months ago.

As I have posted before, I have an appointment with an endo at the end of September but my shrink prescribed me test cyp to get me through until then.

I was pinning 100mgs each week but cut back to 70mgs after a few weeks. The last pin of 70mgs was a fvcking nightmare. My E2 jumped 24 hours after the pin:mood swings, anxiety, low libido, sensitive nipples, etc... All of the typical symptoms. I'm getting significant testicular atrophy so I imagine my own test production is being seriously impacted.

Here's the real fun sh-t; mty shrink isn't willing to take over beyond what she's already doing. We just agreed to cut the dosage to 50 mgs per week after skipping this week and see if that controls the E2. I ran BW but it isn't going to do much good as my shrink isn't going to give me an AI or hCG .

A couple questions:

1. Will cutting back to 50mgs a week lower the E2?
2. Am I going to crash from not pinning for ten days and then using a smaller dosage?

I know this a b-tch of a situation I'm in and it's hard for you guys to answer questions because of the lack or current BW but any help would be, at all, would be appreciated.

**Beethoven** · 08-01-2013, 08:26 AM

That dosage shouldn't have had your E2 elevate that high. Are you sure about your E2 level or just suspect? Usually 100 mgs is the starting dose. I have read that the higher your body fat is the higher your E2 would be. There are lots of real knowledgeable people on here but you need to post recent BW.

**kelkel** · 08-01-2013, 08:31 AM

Originally Posted by m_donnelly

Here's my lab results:

Testosterone : 250 ng/mL (300-1080)
Sex Hormone Binding Globulin: 22 nmol/mL
Free Testosterone: 54 pg/mL (47-90)
% Free Testosterone: 2.2 (1.9-2.6)
FSH: 2
LH: 2.4
Estradiol: 21

5'10''
275lbs
25% BF
33 years old
Past steroid and pro-hormone usgage.

These are original lab results from about two months ago.

As I have posted before, I have an appointment with an endo at the end of September but my shrink prescribed me test cyp to get me through until then.
No clue why your shrink would prescribe this. Seems a bit out of his/her realm. Especially if they can't handle sides from it

I was pinning 100mgs each week but cut back to 70mgs after a few weeks. The last pin of 70mgs was a fvcking nightmare. My E2 jumped 24 hours after the pin:mood swings, anxiety, low libido, sensitive nipples, etc... All of the typical symptoms. I'm getting significant testicular atrophy so I imagine my own test production is being seriously impacted.
You're converting to estrogen heavily I'd imagine. % body fat has a lot to do with this. The leaner you are the less you convert (in most all cases.) Splitting your dosage in half to 50mg (or 35mg) every 3-4 days will help with controlling E2. DIM and zinc will help as well. The site sponsor also has effective E control available. Your test production isn't just impacted, it's shut down. 100mg will do that. HCG is in order as you know.

Here's the real fun sh-t; mty shrink isn't willing to take over beyond what she's already doing. We just agreed to cut the dosage to 50 mgs per week after skipping this week and see if that controls the E2. I ran BW but it isn't going to do much good as my shrink isn't going to give me an AI or hCG .

A couple questions:

1. Will cutting back to 50mgs a week lower the E2? Yes. Less injected at one time equals less spike in E
2. Am I going to crash from not pinning for ten days and then using a smaller dosage? I'd expect you won't feel quite as good. It only lasts so long...

I know this a b-tch of a situation I'm in and it's hard for you guys to answer questions because of the lack or current BW but any help would be, at all, would be appreciated.

In bold. Why can't you find another doctor. Or lowt.com?

**m_donnelly** · 08-01-2013, 08:38 AM

Originally Posted by kelkel

In bold. Why can't you find another doctor. Or lowt.com?

I live in Montana and we have a limited number of endos and urologists so its hard to get in with one. I've been trying to get referrals but it isn't happening.

Right now, I've got two options: hold off at the low dose (possibly titrate up a little) and wait for the endo or just go with lowt. For me, it's all about what is cheaper, if the endo knows his stuff then the treatment won't cost me much because insurance will cover it. But, on the flip side, I know that lowt will treat me well and I'll get it handled ASAFP but it'll be expensive.