Advice before I crash

**cad78** · 06-28-2013, 08:26 PM

I have been on 65mg every 3.5 days for 3 months and 140mg every week before that. I just dropped my bottle of test cyp with about 7mL left. The urologist I see is giving me problems and won't see me for 2 weeks. They won't prescribe me any blood work until I see him again, then I will have to goto a follow up.

My question is should I order some clomid from arr or something? It might be 4 weeks until I can get my prescription refilled.

Any advice on dosing for this?

**100%** · 06-28-2013, 08:33 PM

Originally Posted by cad78

I have been on 65mg every 3.5 days for 3 months and 140mg every week before that. I just dropped my bottle of test cyp with about 7mL left. The urologist I see is giving me problems and won't see me for 2 weeks. They won't prescribe me any blood work until I see him again, then I will have to goto a follow up.

My question is should I order some clomid from arr or something? It might be 4 weeks until I can get my prescription refilled.

Any advice on dosing for this?

That would be a nightmare go to office and have him give you a shot.

**bass** · 06-28-2013, 11:00 PM

^^^ really, I agree. this is utter bullshit, these doctor need to be charged with medicine malpractice.

**Java Man** · 06-29-2013, 02:58 AM

Its therapy. Demand to see this dr. immediately to get your needed medicine and report this quack to the review board where you live.

**Rusty11** · 06-29-2013, 07:29 AM

What a wonderful doc. I'd have saved the broken vial and brought it to him. There's no excuse for having to wait this long to get a refill...unless this has happened before???

**w8liftr** · 06-29-2013, 06:47 PM

U could take clomiphene (clomid). It prompts pituitary to generate more lh/fsh, thereby more leytig cell-testis spittin out more test n stuff.
Of u order from overseas, don't get more than 3 months supply or customs wont like it. Smaller amounts are ok as seen as "commercial samples".

**crazy mike** · 06-29-2013, 07:08 PM

Good luck. Before you really cause the Doc trouble, like a job, make sure you are covered by having a new doc on board. ..crazy mike

**cad78** · 06-29-2013, 07:58 PM

Originally Posted by crazy mike

Good luck. Before you really cause the Doc trouble, like a job, make sure you are covered by having a new doc on board. ..crazy mike

I tend to agree with you mike.

I do not think this is the Dr, more his incompetent staff. He does promote low testosterone on a national radio show every month. He also does not mind giving test cyp as it is cheaper for those without insurance. He sees his listeners for a low cost and that's what attracted me to get tested. I was a 227 at 34 years old.

**ZenFitness** · 06-30-2013, 10:06 AM

Sorry man. I usually try to keep an extra bottle of test cyp as a backup... if you can in the future, I recommend it. One bottle lasts 3 - 4 months, so I got my backup after the first 2 months and I just keep it on hand.

**Sledgehammer1** · 06-30-2013, 03:37 PM

Show up at the office without an appointment and demand to see the Dr. Bring the broken bottle of test. Shit happens in life. Yes, I delt with ignorant staff at Dr offices so many times. Most of the time, the Dr. isn't even aware as they do not communicate with him on every matter. This is to be taken seriously. There is no need to go through the rollercoaster of feeling like hell. Sometimes you need to step up and take charge. Remember Dr.s are working for you and this is your health at stake.

***LowT Mike*** · 07-01-2013, 09:52 AM

WOW. Thats is really doing the patient and Im my opinion the doctor a serious disservice and potentially causing harm to the patient. Find a new doctor. Call us.

**crazy mike** · 07-01-2013, 09:55 AM

Originally Posted by Sledgehammer1

Show up at the office without an appointment and demand to see the Dr. Bring the broken bottle of test. Shit happens in life. Yes, I delt with ignorant staff at Dr offices so many times. Most of the time, the Dr. isn't even aware as they do not communicate with him on every matter. This is to be taken seriously. There is no need to go through the rollercoaster of feeling like hell. Sometimes you need to step up and take charge. Remember Dr.s are working for you and this is your health at stake.

^^^ yep, yep, yep ^^^ He may not get a message. Everyone will if you show up at the Office. Oh just be cool, I always say be cool and you might get the help you need. Go there. ...crazy mike

**cad78** · 09-10-2013, 07:18 PM

An update... it's been 10 weeks since my last dose. The crash was not as bad as I thought it would be. My testes have returned back to normal size.

I just received my Test Cyp from a CM and just injected 120mg.

I got my bloodwork done by privatemd this morning. I will update this post when I get the results back.

**powerlifterty16** · 09-10-2013, 08:49 PM

Originally Posted by cad78

An update... it's been 10 weeks since my last dose. The crash was not as bad as I thought it would be. My testes have returned back to normal size.

I just received my Test Cyp from a CM and just injected 120mg.

I got my bloodwork done by privatemd this morning. I will update this post when I get the results back.

what is cm? is that underground? why hasnt your doc given it to you?
that's cool your testes came back....maybe lh and fsh increased.
if you were prescribed hcg u could have used that to not crash.

**cad78** · 09-11-2013, 08:43 AM

Originally Posted by powerlifterty16

what is cm? is that underground? why hasnt your doc given it to you?
that's cool your testes came back....maybe lh and fsh increased.
if you were prescribed hcg u could have used that to not crash.

Yes it's a UGL. My doctor's office was almost 2 hours away, and they gave me the run around. I was pretty low on cash and decided I could just deal with it. I'm sort of a mind over matter kind of guy.

As soon as it's available from CM, I am going to get some HCG as well. I have Liquid Arimidex from ARR and take .25mg the day after the shot. I will get the female panel done every 6 weeks until I get dialed in. My urologist wouldn't prescribe me an AI even though I e2 was a 55.

It's terrible to think how much cheaper it is to do this underground then above board with legitimate insurance. I thought with health insurance, I could just get what I needed for relatively cheap.

Yes LowT.com is a nice option, I just have too much spending right now, with two small children, to afford them.

**powerlifterty16** · 09-11-2013, 09:39 AM

Originally Posted by cad78

Yes it's a UGL. My doctor's office was almost 2 hours away, and they gave me the run around. I was pretty low on cash and decided I could just deal with it. I'm sort of a mind over matter kind of guy.

As soon as it's available from CM, I am going to get some HCG as well. I have Liquid Arimidex from ARR and take .25mg the day after the shot. I will get the female panel done every 6 weeks until I get dialed in. My urologist wouldn't prescribe me an AI even though I e2 was a 55.

It's terrible to think how much cheaper it is to do this underground then above board with legitimate insurance. I thought with health insurance, I could just get what I needed for relatively cheap.

Yes LowT.com is a nice option, I just have too much spending right now, with two small children, to afford them.

so you left the urologist all together? why didnt u use the ugl during the crash and then go back to the urologist and what does cm stand for?

**cad78** · 09-13-2013, 07:41 AM

So I got my labcorp results back. All of the CBC and CMP results were in normal range other than glucose was a bit high.

Testosterone , Serum 255 348-1197

Luteinizing Hormone 4.4 1.7-8.6

FSH 3.6 1.5-12.4

Estradiol 12.5 7.6-42.6 I think this is from taking some Arimidex a few weeks after I stopped my injections.

I asked Dr. Mark from the Bubba the Love Sponge show to prescribe me an AI, back on my 3 month follow up in April. E2 was a 55 on a scale of 7.6-42.6 My test was a 550 injecting 140mg 1x weekly.

He said "No, just lose some weight". I asked about my 14 pound weight gain since starting TRT and my swollen ankles, he said to go see a GP about circulation issues.

I then ordered some Liquid Arimidex from ARR and started taking that in May and started to feel really good around June. Then the bottle broke at the end of June and I was sort of stuck.

So here I go, trying to get back on track and drop 50 pounds.

**BuzzardMarinePumper** · 09-13-2013, 01:27 PM

Yes I did not want to mention it but since you did I am courious ? I looked at your stats and the reason I was hoping you would mention weight ? Because I had a small weight issue when I started TRT with a DA Dr. as well as DVT's in my left lower extremities ?

I was , age 54 ; 6 ft and went to 265 ibs by 2nd mth and had bloating only on 100 mg weekly. I got my diet dialed in for maxium weight loss and max muscle gain. 1 yr. in TRT and E2 is high and Test is high due to self medicating at 300mg a week back to 150 mg and taking Scripted AI @ .50 mg EOD and HCG as advised in this forum section thred

At your heights are Concerned with weight ? Or is your BF super low ? Courious because I am at 229 lbs now 8 mths. ago 265 l bs ! I need to change diet to gain size and still keep BF down I am basicly protein 75% Fat 15% and Carbs 10% Sucks on energy level and I am sure E2 of 65 doesn't help.

Does Anyone know if Painmeds would directly effect E2 ?

**cad78** · 10-01-2013, 04:10 PM

I weighed 232 in January at 5'10". BF% is probably 32+. I gained 14 pounds by March, and now another 10 in the last two months. My diet hasn't changed, and I do exercise more than before. I am getting more blood work done next week, and want to check my thyroid as well.

I am injecting 125mg 2x a week, and will see if it's legit next week. I will probably back down on the dosage to 75mg 2x week once I make sure my CM TestCyp is gtg.

After 6 injections, which is 750mg, I am finally starting to notice a little change. I am taking .25 LiquidDex the day after each shot.

Has anyone taken Water Out or something to help with the bloat? I know my e2 needs to get in check, will make adjustments after BW next week.

**cad78** · 10-14-2013, 01:26 PM

Originally Posted by cad78

Has anyone taken Water Out or something to help with the bloat? I know my e2 needs to get in check, will make adjustments after BW next week.

Any ideas about water remover? I do drink at least a gallon of liquids, either water or unsweet iced tea.

I've upped my liquidex to .25 everyday, as I keep gaining what I think is water weight. My ankles are swelling, but no other real symptoms. I am starting to feel good again, after 9 injections of 125mg Chemical Muscle TestCyp.

I got BW done today, hope to have results tomorrow. I got my thyroid checked as well, after my wife's came back with bad results.

***LowT Mike*** · 10-14-2013, 05:02 PM

Lowtestosterone.com

**SEOINAGE** · 10-15-2013, 03:10 AM

I dunno man, sounds like you shouldn't have gone threw all this crap, and you need a doctor that is on board with everything.

**cad78** · 10-18-2013, 08:15 PM

My bw came back....

1436 total T 348-1197

51.84 Free T. 5-21

3.61% free T 1.5-4.2

9. Estradiol Sensitive. 3-70

195. IGF-1. 71-241

51.5. Hematocrit. 37.5-51

**cad78** · 12-17-2013, 10:10 PM

Another update BW just came back. I lowered my dosage to 100mg 2x per week after the last test.

Test was 955

Estradiol was 33 non sensitive

Hematocrit was 49.9, still haven't donated.

I'm feeling just as good if not better at 955 than 1436.