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    Low Testosterone @ 20 - MDROL - Formadrol - NO PCT - HPTA Restart Questions

    Hello all,

    This is going to be my first post and it's a doozy so bare with me. When I was 16, yes, SIXTEEN, I took M-drol. I took it for 4 weeks with a liver cleaner, but I didn't properly run a PCT. I bought Nolvadex , used it for about 3-4 days and started seeing EXTREME acne breakouts EVERYWHERE, so I stopped. Yes, I know, I was young and naive but there is more. Then a little after I turned 18 I realized I had low testosterone . I really felt the symptoms severely so after research I decided to buy a testosterone booster , Formadrol. I took this for a month and then decided I would get blood work. I talked to my doctor (never actually telling him that I took a PH or a TB) and I was scheduled for a testosterone check. My test came back at around 420 (this was April, a day after I stopped Formadrol). Then, in August I really... REALLY, felt the symptoms. Second blood test I hit an all-time low of 220. I was prescribed Androgel but I didn't want to start TRT at my age, so I met with an endocrinologist, explained everything, and she told me to workout more seriously with heavier weights. After about 3 months (November) I was in the low 500's range. Then early June of this year I was in the mid 300's range. I took 4 weeks of working out off due to academics and I received a phone call saying my testosterone is now in the mid 600's range. I would love to post everything like my prolactin levels, LH, FSH, free testosterone - but my results are currently being mailed to me. I am beyond confused with all these results... I have little to no libido, I literally can't remember the last time I had a morning erection, and I have patchy facial hair. My erections aren't as hard as I remember from years ago. I have thalassemia so I was directed to take a prenatal vitamin (for the folic acid) and I did for a week before my last blood test. My endocrinologist and I discussed Clomid as an option if this past test came back in the 300's range. To be honest, I want to run an HPTA restart with Clomid and Arimidex , but I'm not sure about a lot of things. My results have fluctuated so constantly and I'm so confused. I figured I'd post here to get some feedback. What do you guys think? I still feel like I have low testosterone. I nap a lot, I'm always tired, I'm not really motivated. My prolactin was a little high too, and I think I did get some slight gynecomastia from the M-drol. I'm about 19 and a half right now and truly want to get back to normal. Any advice is appreciated, and thank you if you took the time to read this.

    -JR

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    Just got my blood test back (taken on 07/03/13)
    Total testosterone : 645 ng/dl (250-1100)
    Free testosterone: 115.5 pg/ml (35-155)

    Although these results may seem normal, I still don't feel well... especially sexually. Can anyone offer some insight? Maybe an "HCG blast" would help? Honestly, any advice would help.

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    your numbers are perfectly healthy i doubt the problem is testosterone so an hcg blast wont help. You need to check estrogen. Your estrogen might have gotten screwed up from your cycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesRemmy View Post
    Just got my blood test back (taken on 07/03/13)
    Total testosterone : 645 ng/dl (250-1100)
    Free testosterone: 115.5 pg/ml (35-155)

    Although these results may seem normal, I still don't feel well... especially sexually. Can anyone offer some insight? Maybe an "HCG blast" would help? Honestly, any advice would help.
    What sexual dysfunction are you referring to exactly? Are you unable to achieve an erection? Unable to ejaculate?
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    I have some mild trouble achieving an erection but once I finally get "erect" (if you can even call it that) it's not hard and I lose it quickly. I can ejaculate but sometimes I'm not even that erect when it happens.

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    powerlifterty16,

    Could you explain this a little bit better? Would I have to check my estrogen levels via another blood test? And lets say it was too high, hypothetically, what are some ways to treat this? How would this tie into my prolactin levels being slightly high?

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