27.....10 years in and CONFUSED! Need a Good Hormone Doc and Good Street Advice!!!

[JuicDinNY]

Sorry for the LONG post, Long story short I destroyed myself ignorantly at a young age growing up in Juice infested Long Island NY. Had levels up to 5,000 at one point between BM Sus, Tren , Test as well as HRT from my doctor giving me 2cc of Test Cyp per week just so we'd spread the word and he eventually became MOBBBBBEDDDD!. I am playing Catch up/Fix now. These are my following issues I'm hoping EXPERTS/VETERAN USERS can answer for me!!!!!( Feel free to ask ANYTHING at all! ) :::::

- Is 27 too young to start Doctor rx HGH??? My Insurance finally changed and is covering it however I CANNOT for the life of me find a Doc to write it for me anyway the two i asked said it causes cancer and Melanoma which I am sick of hearing. I know it replicates cells etc etc but drinking a water bottle left in the car overnight can cause cancer, so can breathing in pollution, and living near the lab by my house, and tanning salons and the sun etc etc etc. Many mixed reviews.....I have MANY injuries from car accident and about 10 years of HEAVY training. Suffer from SEVERE Insomnia(thats why I'm up writing this at 6am LOL), NO drive to do anything, horrible mood generally and a general sense of bad well being. Main thing is also build up of alot of body fat especially around stomach area, which I have NEVER had before until my labs showed what they do now with LOW levels!

- How much Test do you guys think is too much for someone who, OFF all exogenous hormones, has a non existent LH and FSH and Total and Free Test Levels plummet to LITEALLY single digits! One time it was 3 one time it was 8 or 9. Noone believed it thats why they did the re test and it went up to 8 LOL unheard of! They did trial and error IN OFFICe and saw my levels would CRASH down after the shot from about 900 down to about 100 by like day 5 or 6. Thats when I started to feel like crap again!

- ACNE!!!!!!!!!!! I have ALWAYS been sensitive to ACNE and GYNO! I am on arimidex and keeping my Est levels perfect and steady however I am starting to break out on my neck, shoulders, chest and back SOOOO BAD again it is SEVERELY embarassing and sometimes very painful. The massage therapist woudlnt even massagfe me the other day due to it. Talk about HUMILIATING?!?!?!?!? I wanted to crawl under a rock. I run a bunch of Vitamin Stores and want to know if there is ANYTHING you or someone you know or alot of people have been getting good results with. I dont care WHAT it is a cream, a drug, a peice of feces, a vitamin etc!!!! ANY recomendations would be HUGEEEE.

- Fertility and mood! I feel like these tie hand in hand. When my LH and my FSH levels are played with either Clomid or HCG , I become a moody little girl. I can watch a sad movie and histerically cry out of nowhere. I have had the GYNO surgery TWICE already. Once at 18 and once again last year which was a NIGHTMARE!!!! Am I just severely Sensitive to Estrogen??

Thank you guys from the bottom of my heart for taking time to help me out and even read what I wrote. I look forward to seeing what you all said and the MELTING POT of ideas Ideas I will get to review. Thanks again and hope your all well!
Greg

[kelkel]

Sorry for the LONG post, Long story short I destroyed myself ignorantly at a young age growing up in Juice infested Long Island NY. Had levels up to 5,000 at one point between BM Sus, Tren , Test as well as HRT from my doctor giving me 2cc of Test Cyp per week just so we'd spread the word and he eventually became MOBBBBBEDDDD!. I am playing Catch up/Fix now. These are my following issues I'm hoping EXPERTS/VETERAN USERS can answer for me!!!!!( Feel free to ask ANYTHING at all! ) :::::

- Is 27 too young to start Doctor rx HGH??? My Insurance finally changed and is covering it however I CANNOT for the life of me find a Doc to write it for me anyway the two i asked said it causes cancer and Melanoma which I am sick of hearing. I know it replicates cells etc etc but drinking a water bottle left in the car overnight can cause cancer, so can breathing in pollution, and living near the lab by my house, and tanning salons and the sun etc etc etc. Many mixed reviews.....I have MANY injuries from car accident and about 10 years of HEAVY training. Suffer from SEVERE Insomnia(thats why I'm up writing this at 6am LOL), NO drive to do anything, horrible mood generally and a general sense of bad well being. Main thing is also build up of alot of body fat especially around stomach area, which I have NEVER had before until my labs showed what they do now with LOW levels!

Most doc's will not write actual GH as it's restricted in it's uses. Meaning you normally have to have a serious issue to get it written: think aids, short stature in childhood, documented GH deficiency, etc. An alternative may be Sermorelin. It's a GHRH, not GH. Meaning it only stimulates your pituitary to increase production and is controlled by it's own feedback loop. Do some research on it. Google Dr. Richard Walker and Sermorelin as he's one of the top guys in that field. Now Sermorelin is not GH and will not give you the same effects but it's a step in that direction...

- How much Test do you guys think is too much for someone who, OFF all exogenous hormones, has a non existent LH and FSH and Total and Free Test Levels plummet to LITEALLY single digits! One time it was 3 one time it was 8 or 9. Noone believed it thats why they did the re test and it went up to 8 LOL unheard of! They did trial and error IN OFFICe and saw my levels would CRASH down after the shot from about 900 down to about 100 by like day 5 or 6. Thats when I started to feel like crap again!

Did you run a PCT? Have you had an MRI to check for pathologies? If your LH is non-existent then you should look into this. Your 900 level down to 100 after day 5-6 is a quick drop but not unheard of. Test's half life is only 5-6 days or so, metabolism dependent. Yes, you feel like crap at 100 TT.

- ACNE!!!!!!!!!!! I have ALWAYS been sensitive to ACNE and GYNO! I am on arimidex and keeping my Est levels perfect and steady however I am starting to break out on my neck, shoulders, chest and back SOOOO BAD again it is SEVERELY embarassing and sometimes very painful. The massage therapist woudlnt even massagfe me the other day due to it. Talk about HUMILIATING?!?!?!?!? I wanted to crawl under a rock. I run a bunch of Vitamin Stores and want to know if there is ANYTHING you or someone you know or alot of people have been getting good results with. I dont care WHAT it is a cream, a drug, a peice of feces, a vitamin etc!!!! ANY recomendations would be HUGEEEE.

In the AAS Q & A or Lounge is a thread by Austinite on handling Acne. Search it up and read it. It's very well written and may help you.

- Fertility and mood! I feel like these tie hand in hand. When my LH and my FSH levels are played with either Clomid or HCG , I become a moody little girl. I can watch a sad movie and histerically cry out of nowhere. I have had the GYNO surgery TWICE already. Once at 18 and once again last year which was a NIGHTMARE!!!! Am I just severely Sensitive to Estrogen??

Mood swings are normal when hormones are out of balance. The gyno really should not be coming back if the surgery was performed properly and E2 is being controlled. Remember 19Nors (tren-deca) can cause nip issues via prg/prl as well, but only in the presence of high Estrogen. And yes, some are just plain more sensitive to gyno and others can run grams of test without an AI and never get it, even though their E2 is through the roof.

Thank you guys from the bottom of my heart for taking time to help me out and even read what I wrote. I look forward to seeing what you all said and the MELTING POT of ideas Ideas I will get to review. Thanks again and hope your all well!
Greg

Do you have blood work that you can post with ranges? It seriously sounds like you need a good doc to help you find some balance. Meaning it's time to see where your bodies current natural levels are and then attempt to correct or mitigate any issues in a safe, proper manner. Searching for another med may not be your answer.

kel

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Sorry for the LONG post, Long story short I destroyed myself ignorantly at a young age growing up in Juice infested Long Island NY. Had levels up to 5,000 at one point between BM Sus, Tren , Test as well as HRT from my doctor giving me 2cc of Test Cyp per week just so we'd spread the word and he eventually became MOBBBBBEDDDD!. I am playing Catch up/Fix now. These are my following issues I'm hoping EXPERTS/VETERAN USERS can answer for me!!!!!( Feel free to ask ANYTHING at all! ) :::::

- Is 27 too young to start Doctor rx HGH??? My Insurance finally changed and is covering it however I CANNOT for the life of me find a Doc to write it for me anyway the two i asked said it causes cancer and Melanoma which I am sick of hearing. I know it replicates cells etc etc but drinking a water bottle left in the car overnight can cause cancer, so can breathing in pollution, and living near the lab by my house, and tanning salons and the sun etc etc etc. Many mixed reviews.....I have MANY injuries from car accident and about 10 years of HEAVY training. Suffer from SEVERE Insomnia(thats why I'm up writing this at 6am LOL), NO drive to do anything, horrible mood generally and a general sense of bad well being. Main thing is also build up of alot of body fat especially around stomach area, which I have NEVER had before until my labs showed what they do now with LOW levels!

- How much Test do you guys think is too much for someone who, OFF all exogenous hormones, has a non existent LH and FSH and Total and Free Test Levels plummet to LITEALLY single digits! One time it was 3 one time it was 8 or 9. Noone believed it thats why they did the re test and it went up to 8 LOL unheard of! They did trial and error IN OFFICe and saw my levels would CRASH down after the shot from about 900 down to about 100 by like day 5 or 6. Thats when I started to feel like crap again!

- ACNE!!!!!!!!!!! I have ALWAYS been sensitive to ACNE and GYNO! I am on arimidex and keeping my Est levels perfect and steady however I am starting to break out on my neck, shoulders, chest and back SOOOO BAD again it is SEVERELY embarassing and sometimes very painful. The massage therapist woudlnt even massagfe me the other day due to it. Talk about HUMILIATING?!?!?!?!? I wanted to crawl under a rock. I run a bunch of Vitamin Stores and want to know if there is ANYTHING you or someone you know or alot of people have been getting good results with. I dont care WHAT it is a cream, a drug, a peice of feces, a vitamin etc!!!! ANY recomendations would be HUGEEEE.

- Fertility and mood! I feel like these tie hand in hand. When my LH and my FSH levels are played with either Clomid or HCG , I become a moody little girl. I can watch a sad movie and histerically cry out of nowhere. I have had the GYNO surgery TWICE already. Once at 18 and once again last year which was a NIGHTMARE!!!! Am I just severely Sensitive to Estrogen??

Thank you guys from the bottom of my heart for taking time to help me out and even read what I wrote. I look forward to seeing what you all said and the MELTING POT of ideas Ideas I will get to review. Thanks again and hope your all well!
Greg

PM me when you get enough posts. I know a doctor who writes scripts for hgh on Long island never heard of insurance covering it though.

[JuicDinNY]

How do I post my Labs on here. That would be insanely easy and I will scan them in and keep them coming up as I get them! I finally started with my new doc who treats alot of pros and athletes etc etc. He is very knowledgeable and has written me weekly injections of 200mg Cypionate . Also gave me Anastazole which I will take half of EOD and Synthoid for my thyroid which is finally back maintaining within normal range.
As far as the question if I ever did PCT the whole time I was on for about 5-7 years, the SAD answer is NO. I pretty much continuusly used anything and everything I could get my hands on and basically ate anadrols out of a pez dispenser! lol
Thank you VERY much for both of your responses. I want to get my labs tomorrow in hand and I will post all my numbers exactly. The only problem with trying to stop everything and go back to just my natural messed up levels for assessment is I'm 27 years old, on depression medication due to severe depression and mild OCD and anxiety, Synthroid for my thyroid being VERY hypo, Testosterone injections because my LH is something like .007 or virtually non existent. With all this just being the tip of the iceberg, if I stopped everything GOD only knows what I will feel like or what will go through my mind and if I'll be able to keep up at my VERY GOOD paying high paced career which I am somehow excelling in ven with all this bs going on! I just want to feel normal again! I AM NOT doing this for bodybuilding or anything anymore I want to be fixed and feel good again I have been there and done that at 250 with 8%bf I'm over it and want my health back!!! Thanks again guys.
Do you think I should be doing anything like HCG or Clomid while ON the TRT???? My balls are gone as is my LH and fsh but that stuff makes me an emotional little girl. Worried about the depression and anxiety too.

[kelkel]

Just redact the personal info and post them up. Either that or type them in with ranges.

5-7 years on! Damn that's a long time. I'd venture to say that restarting is probably not in the cards for you but you never know. You just have to decide if you want to try or not. And yes, it would probably suck for you. If you choose to do so I'd recommend a Scally Power PCT Protocol or something similar. Your LH is non-existent as you're shut down. It will remain that way unless you restart, if possible.

If you choose to stay on TRT then you need HCG and your doc should know that. Read the sticky thread at the top of this forum for more info on it. Maybe print it out and/or Crislers paper on it and present it to your doc as well. When it comes to TRT you need BW to determine if you even need 200mg per week. Less is more with TRT. Most don't need that much. HCG is needed as it mimics LH production and helps to keep your testies functioning.

When it comes to adex taking .5 EOD is what most do, as I'm sure you know, for a 500mg per week cycle. Eventually, IMHO, you may crash your Estrogen level which is horrible to do. Splitting your test dose in half and injecting twice per week is a prudent thing to do to help manage E2 levels. Think of it this way: Less injected = less spike in E2 levels. If blood work shows a need for adex then consider the smallest dose possible (.25) the day after each injection.

[bigelle]

could anyone direct me to a good contact doc in bay area cali

[HRTstudent]

could anyone direct me to a good contact doc in bay area cali

I'm not sure where bay area is exactly and how it relates to these doctors, but Dr Mariano and Dr Marc Gordon are in California and very well regarded. If I could choose any dr to go to personally, it would be Dr Mariano.