Lowering test levels for TRT wih deca

[Gigantass]

Sorry if I am posting this in the wrong area.

I am trying to get TRT, my levels are low but not low enough. I have 10mls of 300mg/ml of deca . Does anyone have first hand experience fudging their blood test for testosterone by using deca?

[powerlifterty16]

Sorry if I am posting this in the wrong area.

I am trying to get TRT, my levels are low but not low enough. I have 10mls of 300mg/ml of deca. Does anyone have first hand experience fudging their blood test for testosterone by using deca?

what are your ''low but not low enough '' levels.

[Gigantass]

The doctor said it was 5 on the first test and 13 on the second, the doctor said it has to be low on 2 consecutive tests for him to prescribe test. He said normal was in the 15 range, I don't know what the scale ment. I am in Canada if that makes a difference

[powerlifterty16]

The doctor said it was 5 on the first test and 13 on the second, the doctor said it has to be low on 2 consecutive tests for him to prescribe test. He said normal was in the 15 range, I don't know what the scale ment. I am in Canada if that makes a difference

what are the ranges? if he said he'd prescribe it then call him out on his lies as opposed to trying to do it the wrong way .

[m_donnelly]

I'm going to be blunt here, but please don't take offense.

You're treading on thin ice here for a few reasons:

1. Deca will shut you down, HARD and FAST. I know from first hand experience so you could end up permanently shutting yourself down without knowing if you can even get quality treatment. I shut myself down using AAS a long timw ago, am diagnosed with hypogonadism and its been a tough road to get treatment

2. A doctor is going to know that you shut yourself down by just looking at your labs. Your test levels won't just drop; they will plummet. A friend of mine had natural levels around 550ngs/mL, ran a cycle if Deca and ended up at 181ng/mL after. So, you're not just going to drop your levels a few points; it's going to be noticeable. Plus, your progesterone levels will be elevated (that's what Deca converts to) and they'll notice that.

3. If you truly are dealing with secondary hypogonadism then you'll find a doc who will treat you, it's that simple. It's a PITA to deal with but you'll get an endo or urologist to handle it. If not, get in with an anti-aging doc and you'll be good to go.

4. This is kind of a reiteration of #1 but I'll toss it out anyway. Shutting yourself down is dangerous and it's not a pleasant experience. There's a chance you'll never bounce back from it and that's a scary proposition. Trust me.

So, wait it out. Get blood tests done frequently (even using the home kits) and knock on doors until you find a doc that will do it.

[Gigantass]

The doctor only tests my testosterone level, nothin else

[m_donnelly]

Then he doesn't know what he's doing and I'd find a new doctor.

[Gigantass]

Thanks for the responses/advice.... Can anyone answer my original question?

[100%]

Thanks for the responses/advice.... Can anyone answer my original question?

http://www.rrpjournals.com/wjlsmr/WJ...9pg123-127.pdf

[Gigantass]

Thank you 100%.
So, according to the study, you will have a significant reduction in testosterone after 20 days?

[100%]

10 days.

[powerlifterty16]

Thank you 100%.
So, according to the study, you will have a significant reduction in testosterone after 20 days?

thts dumb as hell just find a new dr...this guy is obviously clueless anyway.

[FRDave]

You can just drink some beers the night before and not sleep. Do the opposite of everything you read on how to naturally raise test levels ;-)

Just so it's clear, I do not condone or recommend what your set out to accomplish, but I can relate as I was in the same position and considered the same at one point. I ended up just finding an anti aging Dr and now all is good and legit :-)

[Gigantass]

You can just drink some beers the night before and not sleep. Do the opposite of everything you read on how to naturally raise test levels ;-)

Just so it's clear, I do not condone or recommend what your set out to accomplish, but I can relate as I was in the same position and considered the same at one point. I ended up just finding an anti aging Dr and now all is good and legit :-)

There are no anti aging doctors in Newfoundland Canada. And the Doctor I am using now is heads and tails better than may last. There is not an over abundance of dr.s here either

[powerlifterty16]

There are no anti aging doctors in Newfoundland Canada. And the Doctor I am using now is heads and tails better than may last. There is not an over abundance of dr.s here either

i talk to a guy named spencer he had a channel lowtguy and he sees a gyunecologist lol. the guy prescribes arimidex , hcg , and idk about test..
i can ask him his docs name if u want..hes in Ontario i think

[Gigantass]

i talk to a guy named spencer he had a channel lowtguy and he sees a gyunecologist lol. the guy prescribes arimidex , hcg , and idk about test..
i can ask him his docs name if u want..hes in Ontario i think

Thanks, but, Ontario is very far from NFLD.

[mcdyl]

I'm going to be blunt here, but please don't take offense.

You're treading on thin ice here for a few reasons:

1. Deca will shut you down, HARD and FAST. I know from first hand experience so you could end up permanently shutting yourself down without knowing if you can even get quality treatment. I shut myself down using AAS a long timw ago, am diagnosed with hypogonadism and its been a tough road to get treatment

2. A doctor is going to know that you shut yourself down by just looking at your labs. Your test levels won't just drop; they will plummet. A friend of mine had natural levels around 550ngs/mL, ran a cycle if Deca and ended up at 181ng/mL after. So, you're not just going to drop your levels a few points; it's going to be noticeable. Plus, your progesterone levels will be elevated (that's what Deca converts to) and they'll notice that.

3. If you truly are dealing with secondary hypogonadism then you'll find a doc who will treat you, it's that simple. It's a PITA to deal with but you'll get an endo or urologist to handle it. If not, get in with an anti-aging doc and you'll be good to go.

4. This is kind of a reiteration of #1 but I'll toss it out anyway. Shutting yourself down is dangerous and it's not a pleasant experience. There's a chance you'll never bounce back from it and that's a scary proposition. Trust me.

So, wait it out. Get blood tests done frequently (even using the home kits) and knock on doors until you find a doc that will do it.

This is really good advice you need to listen to this and really take it in