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    How did low t slowly rob you?

    Mine started around 30, now that I think about this. First thing was getting injured easier in the gym. Then less time in the gym and finally a pathetic 25 mins a few times a week and skipped weeks completely . R/c hobbies then stopped. I struggled but kept trying to do car work on my muscle cars projects and such. Then sex drive and energy died, 4 caffeine pill a day habit to function started, of course relationship with the wife suffered, house work backed up. Garage and basement became huge messes of parts and junk. I have the worst lawn in the neighborhood. More or less a life of neglect, stopped buying nice cloths and dress like a slob, eat like a slob. It is hard to just now realize this has happened to me.

    I'm still at the start of this but so far sex drive is better, and the urge to get back to the gym and hobbies has started to creep into my head even though the energy has not been going up that fast. I lost 8 years so far.

    I assume this is the general way this happens to most everyone? I wanted to chalk it up to lifestyle choices, but I have learned that one led to the other and although I tried several times to turn it around I could not.

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    I think having low T robbed me mentally. I was put on ativan for depression three years ago. I never took it regularly. Sometimes a few weeks here, there when depression would hit. If the freaking doctor would have checked my T they could've saved me a lot of trouble. Thats all it was. I don't even think about that garbage anymore.

    I wonder how many men with low T are being treated with antidepressants?

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    ive had low t my whole life, but this past 6 months i have been slowly working out less, being super lazy, and not caring about anything. I am a passive guy, anxious, and have memory problems.

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    Ah yes the depression treatments, did a few years of that too. What makes me angry is that the low t was in the test results the whole time each blood work. It was in range, just I wasn't 80 years old.
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    Quote Originally Posted by highpsi View Post
    Ah yes the depression treatments, did a few years of that too. What makes me angry is that the low t was in the test results the whole time each blood work. It was in range, just I wasn't 80 years old.
    i had a dr tell me bc i was young with low t he wouldnt treat me but he;d treat my dad at 56 who has t 200 points higher..docs are nuts man
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    I have suffered with the depression also for quite a while. I also just had no zest for life and was hard to find any kind of happiness in anything I was doing, even stuff I knew was fun. I would go camping with my family and when they were out swimming or riding atvs I would just lay on the couch or take a nap.

    I told my doctor that I thought I had low T and he said that he doubted it because I was balding, had a hairy chest and my testicles were not small. He put me on anti depressants and asked if I wanted viagra. I told him I didn't have erection problems, I just wasn't that interested in sex.

    Shit got pretty bad, gained weight and felt like I was just living life to hopefully die. My test has been shipped to me today and even the thought of it changing my life has already perked me up some.

    I feel like I can relate to a lot of people here. My reason for TRT is for quality of life, the lifting weights and building muscle is a distant second.

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    Making good gains and losing weight is a huge perk. The best thing though is how mentally healthy I feel. I look forward to waking up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by testytim View Post
    hey jay i got one for you..I was on ativan for 12 years....2to3mgs a day..So you can guess what i have been dealing with...What a nightmare drug that is....I was on trt for 6 of those years and still am... I still believe i am going through withdrawals...I am 1 year off completely...I still have issues in the morning with anxiety...
    Im sorry to hear that testytim. I went a little crazy when I quit Ativan. I quit cold turky and had real bad acute headaches. Had suicidal thoughts for a couple weeks. Then "poof" I came out of it.

    Luckily I haven't had any anxiety since I've been dialed in. Six years is a long time. My doctor prescribed me seroquel, ativan, klonopin and abilify. I couldn't believe it. I still have about a years worth of meds. I never took anything but the ativan "thank God".haha

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    I guess for me I don't have horror story of some of you, my levels seemed to plummet in 2010, actually felt so weak one day that I went to emergency room, a few months later I went to the doc and put on androgel felt better but sex drive lacked, off and on testim and axiron for about a year, until I finally got put on injections, everything is back to feeling like a 28 year old or better, I am 47. Biggest challenges now, keeping blood pressure, red blood cells and estradiol under control, small price to pay for feeling great @ 47. So overall I probably only suffered a few months with severe low t.

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    I began to see the symptoms 5-6 years ago, the symptoms slowly got worse over the years. I finally couldn't take the depression, no energy, weight gain/couldn't lose an ounce, almost zero libido with a beautiful wife & zero drive for life anymore. My Low Test levels are most likely due to being Hypothyroid for 20+ years. I'm sure going out & drinking too much beer during my single 20's, being perscribed a couple different antidepressants didn't help either, they certainly didn't make me feel any better. Environment certainly hasn't helped my hormone levels either, all the plastics we've been exposed to for decades, preservative packed foods & my job. I started my current career (Fireman/EMT) when I was 21, shift work = terrible sleep schedule, being exposed to countless toxins & who know's what else.

    On the positive side, since being treated by my current Dr. a Urologist that specializes in TRT/Fertility for men my life has turned around. TRT has changed my life in a very positive way THANK GOD.

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    For me it wasn't slow. I just got slammed, right around my 50th birthday. Real depression, compounded with a cancer scare and life-long moderate insomnia. It was like a switch was thrown. Oddly there were no physical signs. I'd been making great gains at the gym (although towards the end it took Hurculean efforts to get myself there)!

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    Just a question for all of you - Is anxiety a symptom of low T also? I have had times where I would literally make myself puke before a stressful situation. When I was younger I had all the confidence in the world and thought I could conquer anything (arrogance almost) but the more I aged, the more I felt overwhelmed with what I thought were simple things or things that were completely out of my control.

    This may be something outside of low test but it is something that has gotten worse as I have aged so i thought it may be related. I am 41 btw.

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    For me anxiety was a symptom. I never had any issues with anxiety in my life, starting about 2 years Pre-TRT I began having anxiety here & there. It slowly progressed until after being on TRT for a couple months & it's gone.

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    All I know is my anxiety and depression are with me no more. I'm only two months into therapy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerlifterty16 View Post
    ive had low t my whole life, but this past 6 months i have been slowly working out less, being super lazy, and not caring about anything. I am a passive guy, anxious, and have memory problems.
    I'm the exact same way man it blows...and jay, I can't wait for the day when I look forward to getting out of bed! Shyt that sounds nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddyguy View Post
    I'm the exact same way man it blows...and jay, I can't wait for the day when I look forward to getting out of bed! Shyt that sounds nice
    have u used roids or smoked/alcohol regularly? btw glad you changed your avi was getting annoyed lokokng at that guys dick

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerlifterty16 View Post
    have u used roids or smoked/alcohol regularly? btw glad you changed your avi was getting annoyed lokokng at that guys dick
    have i used roids - ive only ever used super dmz but thats after already being on the androgel in an already shut down state. when i was getting blood work done i was 100% natty and low T

    smoked - yes on and off, occasionally will have the odd one but i havent bought a pack in a year

    alcohol - was never much of a drinker till this year when my depression and the sense of well being got flushed down the crapper..booze was the only thing that helped. but havent had a drink in 3 months cause deep down i know its not a permanent solution and will only mess my life up

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    Quote Originally Posted by jay adams View Post
    I think having low T robbed me mentally. I was put on ativan for depression three years ago. I never took it regularly. Sometimes a few weeks here, there when depression would hit. If the freaking doctor would have checked my T they could've saved me a lot of trouble. Thats all it was. I don't even think about that garbage anymore.

    I wonder how many men with low T are being treated with antidepressants?
    Ativan is a Benzo used primarily for anxiety and is contraindicated for depression. Myself was on antidepressants for many years and finally weaned myself off them over a 6 week period of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crashfirepm53 View Post
    Ativan is a Benzo used primarily for anxiety and is contraindicated for depression. Myself was on antidepressants for many years and finally weaned myself off them over a 6 week period of time.
    I can't believe the way the doctor was wanting to treat me. He gave me a lot of different drugs I didn't take. I started enjoying the ativan. Started drinking with them. What a wreck that turned into after about six months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jay adams View Post
    I can't believe the way the doctor was wanting to treat me. He gave me a lot of different drugs I didn't take. I started enjoying the ativan. Started drinking with them. What a wreck that turned into after about six months.
    Same thing happened to me on Effexor. Doc prescribed me them and started drinking all day on them or about 3 months all the while I had low t but he didn't tell me. He said I was normal and gave me antidepressants

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddyguy View Post
    have i used roids - ive only ever used super dmz but thats after already being on the androgel in an already shut down state. when i was getting blood work done i was 100% natty and low T

    smoked - yes on and off, occasionally will have the odd one but i havent bought a pack in a year

    alcohol - was never much of a drinker till this year when my depression and the sense of well being got flushed down the crapper..booze was the only thing that helped. but havent had a drink in 3 months cause deep down i know its not a permanent solution and will only mess my life up
    when you got your first est blood work what was it and did your drinking and androgel/dmz use start before or after that? not sure what dmz is btw.

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    First blood test. Then drinking with antidepressants. Then more thorough blood test. Then androgel . Dmz is kinda like superdrol

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    Get did everything except raise my sex drive. In fact my sex drive was 100 times higher with low t

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddyguy View Post
    First blood test. Then drinking with antidepressants. Then more thorough blood test. Then androgel. Dmz is kinda like superdrol
    what was your test level?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreadnok89 View Post
    Get did everything except raise my sex drive. In fact my sex drive was 100 times higher with low t
    my sex drive isnt that bad....id say a 5.5/10

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerlifterty16 View Post
    my sex drive isnt that bad....id say a 5.5/10
    Ya its bizarre man. Since being on androgel sex blows. Even with cialis and keeping my estrogen in check

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreadnok89 View Post
    Ya its bizarre man. Since being on androgel sex blows. Even with cialis and keeping my estrogen in check
    why not try sub q t?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreadnok89 View Post
    Ya its bizarre man. Since being on androgel sex blows. Even with cialis and keeping my estrogen in check
    Sex was better before the androgel for me too
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    Quote Originally Posted by powerlifterty16 View Post
    what was your test level?
    First test was 390. Second test was 250. I wanna be at 1000!

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    how did low t slowly rob me?
    low t mike was waiting in a dark alley, he shot himself up with t to become high t mike, and beat my ass!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddyguy View Post
    First test was 390. Second test was 250. I wanna be at 1000!
    i think the sweet spot is 700-900..i think 1000 is a little much

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerlifterty16 View Post
    i think the sweet spot is 700-900..i think 1000 is a little much
    Yea that's what I keep hearing too bro. I'm pickin up a 10 month supply of test e and arimidex for 290 buks next week. Right now androgel it's costing me 150 a month lolololol. Going to start at 60mg Mondays and Thursday, so 120mg a week and .5mg arimidex the day after shots. Gonna do bloodwork after and post results.

    Ps the androgel pisses me off? By night time my t levels feel really low and I'm depressed. Just put on another pack now and feel better. Can't wait to sop this stuff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddyguy View Post
    Sex was better before the androgel for me too
    Its gonna be the same on shots. Get rid of that packet nonsense and use the pump. 2 pumps in morning and one or two at night.

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerlifterty16 View Post
    why not try sub q t?
    I just feel better on gel. I tried sub q and I felt awful. I got anxiety soon as i shot and my stomach felt beyond strange. I'll post my new results spun

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreadnok89 View Post
    Its gonna be the same on shots. Get rid of that packet nonsense and use the pump. 2 pumps in morning and one or two at night.
    I'm confused?? I keep hearing when guys are on shots they have rock hard boners and high sex drive?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddyguy View Post
    I'm confused?? I keep hearing when guys are on shots they have rock hard boners and high sex drive?
    I guess everyone is different

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    Yup haha I do notice when I take 10-15g of androgel my boners get some serious Eiffel Tower action. Pretty sure the 5g isn't getting absorbed well enough and my t is low

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    I had anxiety, panic attacks, depression, crushing fatigue, agoraphobia, low sex drive, loss of confidence, insomnia and weight gain - all over a 7 year period.

    I lost my wife, my job, my condo, most of my friends and I came close to jumping off a bridge... but other than that I'm perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buddyguy View Post
    Yup haha I do notice when I take 10-15g of androgel my boners get some serious Eiffel Tower action. Pretty sure the 5g isn't getting absorbed well enough and my t is low
    im telling you. get rid of the packets

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    Quote Originally Posted by dreadnok89 View Post
    I guess everyone is different
    how's e2

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