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    newest blood work, need a few tweaks

    self medicated and self monitored until recently, this quarters tests revealed some big changes in cholesterol, vit D and dhea

    vitamin d is in the gutter. my Dr has inject-able and said its gonna take daily shots and about 4 months before i go from 43 closer to 140... not looking forward to this at all.

    cholesterol is very low, yes i eat strict but i eat animal fats like going out of style every day. how can i increase this? aromasin or cialis have to do with this?

    test is around 600, (21) on 140mg weekly of test E, for trt i rather be closer to 800, 1100-1300 would be fun :P for 34 years old, i seem to be hitting my "average" range for my age.. i dont wanna be average for the effort.

    e1 is below 50, i do have gyno in one nipple from trt, but im thinking of coming off AI and see how i go.

    dhea is low and growth hormone is average to fix this, Dr offered me GH or cjc, and said 1 shot weekly of cjc is really good way to start or if i can afford teh GH, then that's the other option. Any thoughts on cjc being used in HRT/TRT


    real HCG is to hard to get now in australia, gonna start using triptorelin next week to keep things happening downstairs

    Would like to see what some of you HRT experts say, thanks

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    Cialis may have something to do with cholesterols but not sure how much! what is your complete protocol? post your entire BW with ranges if you have them, even the ones in range. we want to see the whole picture.

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    test 21nmol 11.5 -32.0
    shbg 27 nmol 15-50

    insulin 6 0-20

    oestadiol<50 <160
    dheas 4.9 umol 3.0 -16

    prolactin 142 mIU/l 85-500

    vitamin D 34 nmol 51-140

    cholestrol 3.5 <--- how to fix this 3.9 -5.5
    HDL 1.2 0.8 1.5
    LDL 2.0 1.7 -3.5
    triglycerides 0.6

    urea- kindney 10.2 mmol/l 3.0 -8.0

    thyroid
    TSH 2.06 mIU/L 0.40-3.50

    IGF-1 22 nmol/l 15-40

    free test 487 pmol/L 260 -740
    albumin 46 G/L 39-50
    homocysteine 7.4 umol/l 6.0 -14.0

    white cell count 6.0 4.0-11.0
    red 5.4 4.5 -6.5


    protocol is 140mg test e every 7-8 days
    12.5 aromasin every other day
    cialias 10mg every 2-3 days

    34 year old male.
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    edit your post and add ranges!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bass View Post
    edit your post and add ranges!
    done!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mockery View Post
    self medicated and self monitored until recently, this quarters tests revealed some big changes in cholesterol, vit D and dhea

    vitamin d is in the gutter. my Dr has inject-able and said its gonna take daily shots and about 4 months before i go from 43 closer to 140... not looking forward to this at all.

    cholesterol is very low, yes i eat strict but i eat animal fats like going out of style every day. how can i increase this? aromasin or cialis have to do with this?

    test is around 600, (21) on 140mg weekly of test E, for trt i rather be closer to 800, 1100-1300 would be fun :P for 34 years old, i seem to be hitting my "average" range for my age.. i dont wanna be average for the effort.

    e1 is below 50, i do have gyno in one nipple from trt, but im thinking of coming off AI and see how i go.

    dhea is low and growth hormone is average to fix this, Dr offered me GH or cjc, and said 1 shot weekly of cjc is really good way to start or if i can afford teh GH, then that's the other option. Any thoughts on cjc being used in HRT/TRT


    real HCG is to hard to get now in australia, gonna start using triptorelin next week to keep things happening downstairs

    Would like to see what some of you HRT experts say, thanks
    If you doc will let you I would play around with the dose and see how it goes, I did 80-100-120 and 150 for 8 weeks each time and feel best at 120 and TT is about 900, at 150 I was 11xx on the 7th day and I start to get anxiety and felt no so great. Also watch E2, I do best @ 22-25 but it never changed for me when I did 80 or did 150 so everyone is different.

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    looks okay however with the exception of your kidney! what's the deal there? not familiar with that test! you need to supplement with vitamin D, it may lower your SHBG a little but you got plenty room there. Vit. D will raise you free T. also try to supplement with DHEA. your cholesterol is not that off, which means you can eat more steak, eggs, etc...!

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    high protein has made it high, the kidney values that is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mockery View Post
    self medicated and self monitored until recently, this quarters tests revealed some big changes in cholesterol, vit D and dhea

    vitamin d is in the gutter. my Dr has inject-able and said its gonna take daily shots and about 4 months before i go from 43 closer to 140... not looking forward to this at all.

    cholesterol is very low, yes i eat strict but i eat animal fats like going out of style every day. how can i increase this? aromasin or cialis have to do with this?

    test is around 600, (21) on 140mg weekly of test E, for trt i rather be closer to 800, 1100-1300 would be fun :P for 34 years old, i seem to be hitting my "average" range for my age.. i dont wanna be average for the effort.

    e1 is below 50, i do have gyno in one nipple from trt, but im thinking of coming off AI and see how i go.

    dhea is low and growth hormone is average to fix this, Dr offered me GH or cjc, and said 1 shot weekly of cjc is really good way to start or if i can afford teh GH, then that's the other option. Any thoughts on cjc being used in HRT/TRT


    real HCG is to hard to get now in australia, gonna start using triptorelin next week to keep things happening downstairs

    Would like to see what some of you HRT experts say, thanks
    800 would be a decent testosterone , i think 1100-1300 is overkill.
    how low is your cholsterol, i wouldnt try raising it unless it were like 80 or below.

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    Quote Originally Posted by powerlifterty16 View Post
    800 would be a decent testosterone , i think 1100-1300 is overkill.
    how low is your cholsterol, i wouldnt try raising it unless it were like 80 or below.
    so the converstion rate is 135 mg/dl i believe.. so that's well above the 80 you mentioned. i will look into this.

    thanks

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    Load up on D. You can get there with OTC D3
    Add in DHEA and Preg (micronized) like Bass advised.

    You mention cjc I assume you mean 1295 w/o DAC? Good stuff. Add in GHRP6 with it or just do the 6 by itself. You can get some nip tenderness from peptides so be careful.

    I would strongly urge you to NOT play with Triptorelin. At all. A mistake with it could cause you irreparable harm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mockery View Post
    so the converstion rate is 135 mg/dl i believe.. so that's well above the 80 you mentioned. i will look into this.

    thanks
    i just want to add 80 was an arbitratu number...ive read that low cholesterol even though we need chol is not that bad...135 is more than fine..that isnt even low.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mockery View Post
    so the converstion rate is 135 mg/dl i believe.. so that's well above the 80 you mentioned. i will look into this.

    thanks
    what are you conversion form? btw...i thought all labs do mg/dl

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Load up on D. You can get there with OTC D3
    Add in DHEA and Preg (micronized) like Bass advised.

    You mention cjc I assume you mean 1295 w/o DAC? Good stuff. Add in GHRP6 with it or just do the 6 by itself. You can get some nip tenderness from peptides so be careful.

    I would strongly urge you to NOT play with Triptorelin. At all. A mistake with it could cause you irreparable harm.
    well its being dosed by my dr , *** bucks a shot from her or i can buy it out right and do myself but she said its dangerous if i try and increase the dosage or inject too soon. is your opinion the same if it is my dr who is controlling the protocol?

    the cjc i havent seen yet till next week if its with or with out DAC, i asked her about adding the GHRP6 and she said it wasn't necessary unless i wanted a increase in hunger? i said to her i think it has more merit then that. shes going to a confrence this weekend actually so lets see what she says next week, then a new young endo in 2 weeks

    be nice to finally get nebido and off UGL test for TRT

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    dr just shot a whole vial of vitamin D in my glute, hope it helps!

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