Arginine to lower high BP

**xcraider37** · 10-06-2013, 02:25 PM

Originally Posted by bass

Or you can click on any Austinite's posts then click on the link in his signature area.

FYI, I generally use the mobile app and cannot see links, but thanks again for the info. I found what I was looking for.

**ZenFitness** · 10-07-2013, 03:40 PM

On top of watermelon (which I eat every morning... great wake-up hydration), I eat pistachios in the afternoon. Healthy fats plus a great natural source of arginine.

**ZenFitness** · 10-07-2013, 04:26 PM

Wow, according to that video I should be taking 4.9 grams of arginine a day... I currently take about 2 -3 grams. I'm 215 lbs, so 98 kgs / 10 * 0.5 = 4.9. Are there any issues taking that much a day? I take the same amount of citrulline as well.

**austinite** · 10-07-2013, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by ZenFitness

Wow, according to that video I should be taking 4.9 grams of arginine a day... I currently take about 2 -3 grams. I'm 215 lbs, so 98 kgs / 10 * 0.5 = 4.9. Are there any issues taking that much a day? I take the same amount of citrulline as well.

If you're taking Cit, it's fine. 3 of each is plenty.

**bass** · 10-07-2013, 04:49 PM

my BP this morning was 117/72! huge change. usually its like 14/85 or so. I am sure by the end of this month I won't have any pressure! LOL.

**Lockout888** · 10-13-2013, 10:13 AM

Any suggestions for masking the horrible taste of arginine?

**austinite** · 10-13-2013, 10:17 AM

Originally Posted by Lockout888

Any suggestions for masking the horrible taste of arginine?

10 packs for 75 cents. Only 5 calories... Just add water.

**ZenFitness** · 10-13-2013, 11:35 AM

I take a small cup, put arginine and citrulline in it, fill it with about a quarter to a half inch of water, swirl it around until it dissolves, clench the top of my throat so I can't taste, shoot it, and then chase with a glass of water or coffee, etc. I usually don't taste it, but the trick is to shoot it quick (I put the glass as far back in my mouth as it will go and do not catch it in my mouth but let it go right down the throat).

**bigt405** · 10-13-2013, 08:10 PM

I just ordered me some arginine

With my BP running a little on the high side I am going to give this a try.

**kelkel** · 10-13-2013, 09:26 PM

Originally Posted by bigt405

I just ordered me some arginine

With my BP running a little on the high side I am going to give this a try.

Don't forget low dose daily cialis. Best stuff out there. Austinite actually lives in Cialis, TX.

**xcraider37** · 10-14-2013, 08:56 AM

Originally Posted by bigt405

I just ordered me some arginine

With my BP running a little on the high side I am going to give this a try.

Becareful with the arginine hcl it can cause some odd symptoms and put you in a state of acidosis. Especially if your BP runs high your kidneys may not be filtering as well as they should. As with anything always a side effect for some.

**bigt405** · 10-16-2013, 05:48 PM

Originally Posted by xcraider37

Becareful with the arginine hcl it can cause some odd symptoms and put you in a state of acidosis. Especially if your BP runs high your kidneys may not be filtering as well as they should. As with anything always a side effect for some.

Ok thanks for the heads up.

**bigt405** · 10-17-2013, 12:00 PM

Other than taking arginine on an empty stomach is there a best time to take it ie first thing in the morning, preworkout or bedtime?

**ZenFitness** · 10-17-2013, 12:10 PM

I dose AM empty stomach, after a weight lifting session, and just before bed... my two cents.

**MuscleInk** · 10-17-2013, 01:56 PM

Interesting. Glad to see the timing was discussed. I usually take it in the AM and then 30-45 mins before a work out.

Originally Posted by kelkel

Thought some may benefit from this video. There's an option for a long or short version of it.

Arginine To Lower High Blood Pressure - Arginin For Hypertension - YouTube

**MuscleInk** · 10-17-2013, 01:57 PM

The video suggests timing (1 hour before vigorous exercise).

Originally Posted by bigt405

Other than taking arginine on an empty stomach is there a best time to take it ie first thing in the morning, preworkout or bedtime?

**MuscleInk** · 10-17-2013, 01:59 PM

I'm handing out Cialis at my Halloween party. Nice big bowl of pills. Yellow (cilais), Blue (viagra) and Pink (Lovegra - for the ladies).

Let the party begin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by kelkel

Don't forget low dose daily cialis. Best stuff out there. Austinite actually lives in Cialis, TX.

**MuscleInk** · 10-17-2013, 02:00 PM

I take encapsulated form. No taste....unless you get the crazy idea to suck on the capsules????

Originally Posted by austinite

10 packs for 75 cents. Only 5 calories... Just add water.

**bigt405** · 10-17-2013, 07:16 PM

Fyi...... Now brand l-arginine tastes horrible by itself lol
I will definitely be mixing it with something......

**apple2go** · 10-19-2013, 10:46 AM

I don't want to start a new thread for it, maybe guys you can answer me here. Thanks.

So one of my friends gave me Arginine Alpha-Ketoglutarate in liquid form. He gave it to me because he doesn't like its taste (I told him he is a *****

). So does it have the same effect like "normal" arginine? I wish to consume it in order to cure my mild-or not so mild- ED.

Cheers!

**spin_doctor** · 10-29-2013, 07:02 AM

Just had mine checked out in a cheapy pharmacy machine. Too high....thought it might be. Noticed my vision was not as good as it should be and it seems to be a little off when my BP is up. I am going to try the Arginine and start hitting cardio to drive it down. I am on week 7 of my first cycle and will be working a contract for a about 10 days or so. In and out of country and now weights available, but may be able to get some cardio. Not going to stop the cycle, but will work on the BP until I get back under the bar.

**Zodiac85** · 10-29-2013, 09:50 AM

Been using arginine for about 3 weeks. BP is down a bit from 140/85 to 130/80. I've recently seen as low as 120/70 but that seems to be a bit of an anomaly. I'm happy with those results so far, hope it keeps improving a little longer.

**xcraider37** · 10-29-2013, 02:02 PM

Originally Posted by bigt405

Fyi...... Now brand l-arginine tastes horrible by itself lol
I will definitely be mixing it with something......

Worst thing I have ever put in my mouth, not worth it too me, not sure how guys go do a heavy workout on an empty stomach anyways. You won't be able to cover the taste I tried to mix it with several different drinks and juices and just made the taste worse. Plus running to the restroom every few hours was killing me. No thx, I'll stick with just cialis.

**Lockout888** · 11-13-2013, 02:54 PM

The stuff definitely works. I was averaging 185/100 before starting L-Arginene and Citrulline. Without changing anything but that, I am now averaging 135/95 - still high, but better. This is also taking ECA stack 2x per day.

**bass** · 11-13-2013, 03:14 PM

^^^ nice!

**bass** · 11-19-2013, 02:18 PM

BP this morning 117/73! its been this way since i started this supplement.

I also noticed I can breath better especially at night. usually my nose is always stuffed, but every time i take L-Arginine and Citrulline both my nostrils seems to open and air flows freely. also when i take deep breaths they are so satisfying! probably due to dilated veins in the lungs. really loving this stuff!

**kelkel** · 11-19-2013, 02:30 PM

Originally Posted by MuscleInk

Interesting. Glad to see the timing was discussed. I usually take it in the AM and then 30-45 mins before a work out.

Did you catch that you can probably get by with EOD supplementation? Great to see guys making progress with such a simple addition to their protocols.

**bass** · 11-19-2013, 02:40 PM

Originally Posted by kelkel

Did you catch that you can probably get by with EOD supplementation? Great to see guys making progress with such a simple addition to their protocols.

I missed it, but that's cool to know. I guess that explains why my BP went from 140/85 down to below normal!

**Igifuno** · 11-24-2013, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by austinite

Yeah why not. Heck I've been taking 5 to 7 grams of arginine before bed (not including what I take through the day), it promotes resting growth hormone. The most I can handle without feeling stomach discomfort is 9 grams. But I can take 20 grams in a day so long as I split the dose up throughout the day.

aust, if 4-5g (depending on weight) is an effective dose, I'm curious what the benefit of taking up to 20g in a day would have?

Also, in addition to citrulline, I also read about L-Ornithene which is an intermediate compound involved in the synthesis of L-Arginine in the body and is effective in promoting optimal absorption and assimilation of Arginine. Would this be okay to add to a arginine/citrulline stack?

**austinite** · 11-24-2013, 06:51 PM

Originally Posted by Igifuno

aust, if 4-5g (depending on weight) is an effective dose, I'm curious what the benefit of taking up to 20g in a day would have?

Also, in addition to citrulline, I also read about L-Ornithene which is an intermediate compound involved in the synthesis of L-Arginine in the body and is effective in promoting optimal absorption and assimilation of Arginine. Would this be okay to add to a arginine/citrulline stack?

It's great. But I can't do that much in one sitting. I've taken 30 grams, but never more than 9 grams at once. Turns my stomach if I take more.

Arginine, Citrulline and Ornithine will complete the urea cycle and provide the highest possible NO levels. The conversion goes like this...

Citrulline --> Argininosuccinic --> Arginine --> Ornithine.

But yes, arginine/citrulline is plenty with respect to this topic.

**Igifuno** · 11-24-2013, 07:31 PM

many thanks!

**Igifuno** · 11-24-2013, 11:28 PM

What is the typical timeframe in which you should begin to see a decline in BP?

Zodiac mentioned 3 weeks he saw a significant change.. Is this the standard or does it vary?

Also, arginine+citrulline is more effective than arginine+ornithine, correct? But all three taken simultaneously would be best?

**Igifuno** · 11-25-2013, 01:29 PM

Bump

**austinite** · 11-25-2013, 01:34 PM

Originally Posted by Igifuno

What is the typical timeframe in which you should begin to see a decline in BP?

Zodiac mentioned 3 weeks he saw a significant change.. Is this the standard or does it vary?

Also, arginine+citrulline is more effective than arginine+ornithine, correct? But all three taken simultaneously would be best?

BP declines quickly as these amino's are short lived. It's best to spread your doses out. I don't know if I can quantify it as I've been on them for so long, but you should see a slight drop the same day and stabilize with continued use in the next week or so. This is all dose and frequency dependant as well.

Yes, combining all 3 would be most impactful. But again, not necessary for those who don't like to take too many pills.

**mxbrewski** · 04-29-2014, 03:02 PM

This combo with cia has helped my BP.

**thisAngelBites** · 04-30-2014, 09:10 AM

Excellent stuff as always, Kelkel. Glad someone bumped this as I somehow missed it before...

**Beethoven** · 04-30-2014, 11:36 AM

I've been taking L Arginine for just under three weeks. I'm still playing around with the dosage but my bp has dropped, mostly due to the fact that I'm eating clean, exercising and have dropped 25 lbs to date. That said, Arginine helps with NO and I've noticed as I said, lower bp, good pumps in the gym and vein popping woods in the morning. (Of course I'm on trt and don't want to down play its role) but in addition to it has been great. I'm going to start buying it and citrulline in bulk along with glutamine.