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09-10-2013, 05:13 PM #1Junior Member
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Declined by LowT.com due to age?
I contacted LowT.com for HRT and spoke to a nice guy name Mike who informed me that due to my age (28) I couldn't be treated by them. He also told me that my T level is low (304-341mg, Free: 11.17mg/ld) and told me that I should contact an endocrinologist to try to determine why my levels were low.
My question is would they have treated me if my T levels were lower or is it their over all policy to not treat people under thirty?Last edited by tox2501; 09-10-2013 at 05:21 PM.
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09-10-2013, 06:11 PM #2Originally Posted by tox2501
I guess they assume at an early age it is secondary and can be treated by a specialist? Or maybe they are willing to treat once you are advised of the cause by an endo?
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09-10-2013, 07:21 PM #3Banned
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09-10-2013, 07:33 PM #4
That's correct. In order to join the program you would need to provide a reason for the low levels. This is not something that naturally occurs at your age. Certainly not saying this is the case, but such programs can easily be abused if some policies weren't in place. This is a general policy and not to be taken personally.
Any trauma to the head or testicals? Steroid or anti-depressant use? MRI results? Such causes would need to be documented as proof.~ PLEASE DO NOT ASK FOR SOURCE CHECKS ~
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09-10-2013, 07:38 PM #5~ HRT Specialist ~
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If you are under the age of 30, there can be a bit more scrutiny. The reason for this is to protect doctors and pharmacies from drug seekers. There are always those of every age who are not after TRT at all and are simply looking for a legal way to acquire testosterone for their cycles and men under 30 are notorious for this. Further, under 30 we cannot say the cause of one's low testosterone is due to age, so there have to be some questions asked.
If you are under 30, do any of the following apply to you?
*Prior Opiate abuse
*Prior or current antidepressant use
*Testicular damage
*Severe head trauma
If any of these issues apply to you, can you back them up with medical documentation?
Another possible issue might be prior anabolic steroid use . If so, be honest about it. A lot of guys are petrified to admit prior steroid use, and this is only to their own detriment. Admit what you've done and move on. However, you need to be willing to accept that the doctor may very well want to start you on HCG only and then consider moving forward with testosterone if needed.
If none of the above apply to you, you would be required to have an MRI on your pituitary. If every thing came back negative, we would then consider sending you to one of our doctors for treatment.
powerlifty, yes, we have some clients under 30 who have met the above criteria but the vast majority are over 30.Last edited by Low Testosterone; 09-10-2013 at 07:43 PM.
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09-10-2013, 07:44 PM #6Banned
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09-10-2013, 08:29 PM #11Junior Member
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Thanks for the response. This is in line with what Mike told me over the phone. He recommended that I see an endocrinologist and have my pituitary gland checked, which I intend to do in the next few weeks. Overall I was happy with my call. When the rep didn't know how to handle my situation I was quickly transferred to a specialist who was both friendly and knowledgeable. My post here was more to inquire about the policy regarding age. Thanks for the clarification.
As for potential causes of low T at 28 years old:
-I have never used anabolism steroids before. The very modest gains I've managed since I started lifting during high school have been done natty.
-Never used any drugs beyond pot which I smoke about once a month.
-Drink maybe one night every two weeks.
-No severe or repeated head trauma
-No trama to testicles
-Used Efexor (anti-depressant) for 2 year 2001-2003
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09-10-2013, 08:47 PM #12Member
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Honestly it's a really good thing that they didn't just put you on test right away. As much as it sucks waiting when you're suffering, finding the root cause of your low test is huge at your age.
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09-10-2013, 08:56 PM #13Originally Posted by Low Testosterone
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09-10-2013, 10:44 PM #14~ HRT Specialist ~
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Yes, you would be asked these questions right away. You wouldn't signup or pay any money until these issues were taken care of.
The youngest? We have a few around 23-24 who are admitted past steroid users and who have undergone HCG restart. Some have been successful in this and some have not. There is not guarantee that an HCG restart will work. We also have one off the top of my head with severe testicular damage due to injury and one due to massive head trauma. I can't remember their exact age off the top of my head but they're younger than 30 and have medical documentation.
If you do follow all the above and there is still no specific known reason as to why you have low testosterone , it would be taken by a case by case basis. That's the best answer I can give you as there are too many variables.
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09-11-2013, 10:11 AM #15Member
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Hey mike is there anyway to fix the reason of low t because of using lexapro?
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so do i just fax everything to them? i have done all the ultrasounds, bloodworks, and mris needed over the last 5 years lol. if i ever wanted to join im sure id be approved...if not it would be a crime lol.
even tried an hcg restart and awaiting the results of my clomid test.
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09-11-2013, 12:30 PM #18Banned
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i am..but just looking towards the future....it's nice to have other options in case shippen decides to retire or something.
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there are some good posts on this forum from the last year or two about boosting testosterone levels naturally.
at 28 and a level in the 300's you're certainly very far from hopeless.
I'm not sure why a clinic would turn you away, but nobody here knows what happens between the patient and doctor. that is very significant and involves expert clinical judgment -- something the forums can not provide.
the flip side is, quite frankly, if someone said they had a T in the 300's and they were 28 I would say do NOT jump into TRT at least right now. important things need to be addressed first, and, to be blunt, a one time reading in the 300's is not very weighty.
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09-11-2013, 04:54 PM #20
Hell, I'm in my mid 30's & think I should still be considered young
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09-13-2013, 09:37 AM #21HRT Specialist, P.A. - LowTestosterone.com
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Austinite said it...In order to join the program under the age of 30 you would need to provide a previously diagnosed pathology for the low levels. This treatment is ONLY approved for men who have age related andropause--Over the age of 30. We can prove with scientific data that men over the age of 30 generally lose 1% of serum T per year. or they have some sort of previously diagnosed pathology like Lowtestosterone-HRT specialist outlined. The DEA scrutinizes this hard and we have to do our due diligence to protect our doctors and pharmacists. Doctors are doing jail sentences for just handing Rx out like candy. Their are many many approaches with lifestyle, diet, ect that a guy in his 20s can perform to boost his T naturally. We treat older men who dont have this opportunity.
How to Increase Testosterone Naturally | The Art of ManlinessLast edited by LowT Mike; 09-13-2013 at 09:44 AM.
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09-13-2013, 03:07 PM #22
So say a guy cycled to young and is having ed a low libido. Would he be turned away because he cycled or would he pay $199 a month until a restart was attempted. And if he admitted he cycled would this be put on his medical record?
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09-14-2013, 04:27 PM #25Junior Member
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curious - so if you were to be approached by 29, you would recommend an endo?
I have been going to the Low T center here in Dallas for 7 weeks now. I am really curious as to why I have low T, but I genuinely feel better now than I did before. I am on 120 mgs a week now, and I can tell a difference. Would going to a Endo to determine my problems, would he ask me to stop the low T while we looked or what would they say?
I am about 50% sure my Low T comes due to stress/unhappiness at home, which has gotten better recently. I assume stress/emotions can cause this so....
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