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    Complete novice is offline Associate Member
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    Need help, is testosterone?

    Stats: 35, 250lb, 6ft, 30% + bf (gained over 3 stone since diagnosed with low test).

    Symptoms: no libido, no drive, no erections, no morning wood or any other time. Tired and lethargic constantly, very moody, depressed, anxious, no get up and go. Weight gain, fat gain, just generally feel like crap.

    History: I have been suffering with all the usual symptoms for nearly 2 years and have had four different endos:

    1st gave me nebido after his under study thought this was the best treatment, I tried this and it gave me pain in my testicles (horrible), spots and no improvement at all, had two shots over 6 months.

    2nd endo saw me and after I told him about my symptoms, he told me to stop (tbh I'm surprised I lasted that long with the pain) he then told me to leave it for 6 months which I found unacceptable.

    3rd endo, was great spent all afternoon chatting to me and suggested I have a sleep study, see a dietitian and referred me to a so called specialist. He thought it was appalling I have had to live with these issues, but was retiring. So didn't want to start a new case, so to speak.

    4th endo (so called specialist) wouldn't see me till I'd had a sleep study done, after I had that done it showed I had sleep apnea due to massive tonsils... Had them removed, got two hemoridges and a blood clot.. 3 operations later and a hell of a lot of pain. I took a 4 hour drive to have a blood test!!!

    He then told my gp to start me on test enthate, the dose was 0.8ml every two weeks, after 4 days of first shot I felt worse than ever. Pain, shrinkage, spots, really wanted to commit suicide.. But I stuck it out for 2 months.. Was horrible.. He then told me to stop and have another blood test (4 hour drive). After that I was put on clomid, which after 10 days made my nipples feel like they had been through a cheese grater.. After another 4 hour drive the so called specialist told me he couldn't do anymore.

    NONE OF THESE MADE ANY DIFFERENCE WHAT SO EVER

    Blood results from 4 weeks ago:

    Testosterone (Serum testosterone): 11.400nmol/L (7.6-31)
    Oestradiol (Serum Oestradiol level): 44.000pmol/L (N/A)
    Thyroid:
    TSH: 1.280miu/L (0.35-5.00)
    Free T4 18.100pmol/L (11.0 - 23.00)
    Prolactin (Serum prolactin level): 205.000mU/L (<324)
    PSA (Prostate specific antigen): 0.610ug/L (<3.0)
    Ferritin (Serum ferritin): 133.000ug/L (20-500)
    Vitamin D (Total 25-hydroxyvitamin D level): 129.600nmol/L (50-150)
    Cortisol (Serum cortisol): 433.000nmol/L (170-540)
    B12 (Serum vitamin B12): 610.000ng/L (200-900)

    Had another blood test and a semen sample a week later.

    Which was:

    FSH 6.5 (1.3-19.3) iu/l
    LH 2.2 (1.2-8.6) iu/l
    Testosterone 6.9 (6.1-27.1) nmol/l

    I have been to the fertility clinic today with the other half, and the guy we saw said my semen is perfect and I produce an abnormal amount. (More than the average guy and everything is perfect we're his words)

    He also said if I am producing that much semen, then my testes are working fine. And he doesn't think it's a testosterone issue that is causing all my symptoms.

    It is strange though how it can almost drop by half in a week, both done in the morning 9am a week later.

    Any ideas? What should I do?

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    Any advice anyone? is it strange to have a good semen sample with high production level, yet have low testosterone ?

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    it seems you post the same thread every week??

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    Yeah, just trying to get some help and advice. Thought posting was they way to get it!

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    The semen thing and erection thing is silly I was perfect at 90 total test yet I felt like death. Senen doesn't control the quality of your life

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