If we supplement with DHEA and PREG what's the point of HCG

[jomamma007]

other then cosmetic reasons, if we are "back filling" the pathways by dhea and pregnenolone supplementation, what's the point in taking HCG .

[slimshady01]

other then cosmetic reasons, if we are "back filling" the pathways by dhea and pregnenolone supplementation, what's the point in taking HCG.

How much dhea and preg do you guys take

[jomamma007]

common recommendations on this board is 50mgs DHEA and Pregnenolone, micronized,

[slimshady01]

common recommendations on this board is 50mgs DHEA and Pregnenolone, micronized,

I've bee taking 50-100 cheap dhea from Walmart and LEF preg at 100mg

[gatornate97]

So you guys are not taking HCG ?
Can you supp DHEA and Preg and still have your boys and still keep your feedback loop for LH?

[slimshady01]

So you guys are not taking HCG? Can you supp DHEA and Preg and still have your boys and still keep your feedback loop for LH?

I take it but not consistent.. Ill start a new vial till gone then take time off.

[kelkel]

other then cosmetic reasons, if we are "back filling" the pathways by dhea and pregnenolone supplementation, what's the point in taking HCG.

It mimics LH production and has neurological benefits. You also have LH receptors throughout your body, even in your brain. Go with a slow release micronized version for best absorption.

[powerlifterty16]

if you take hcg you prob wont need dhea/preg...and the cosmetic benefits are enough

[kelkel]

if you take hcg you prob wont need dhea/preg...

I'd bet the over-whelming majority of peoples blood work, as well as the top docs in the industry, would say otherwise.

[austinite]

I'd bet the over-whelming majority of peoples blood work, as well as the top docs in the industry, would say otherwise.

I'd bet that you're absolutely correct.

[rotty2]

I feel hcg /dhea/preg compliment each other very nicely but I still don't understand why some people are so anti hcg. I hear this "its just for aesthetics" thing a lot, from somebody who has chosen not to run hcg during a cycle before, trust me it is debilitating when you try to run with your balls atrophied among a couple dozen other things.

[gatornate97]

I'd bet the over-whelming majority of peoples blood work, as well as the top docs in the industry, would say otherwise.

So you are saying you need DHEA and pregnolone along with HCG ? What is the standard dose and brand?
DHEA pills? Micronized Preg?

[Vettester]

if you take hcg you prob wont need dhea/preg...and the cosmetic benefits are enough

Makes absolutely no sense!

[gatornate97]

Preg is a lot if mental hormones correct?
How bad does it convert to e2? DHEA?
If it converts would you still take DHEA?

Research suggests the Preg is good for the mental clarity, anxiousness, memory etc...Seems like it effects the CNS and brain functions.

What is a standard protocol? 15-30mg daily is what I've read. Interesting for sure. I want this checked at my next BW

[MArz123]

Just throwing it out there....no one should be taking dhea or preg unless they have gotten labs and are actually in need of supplementation...these supplements can have negative sides if your levels get too high....not too mention more work for your liver!!!

I speak from experience, i recklessly added both of these because of all the good things said on this forum about dhea and preg without first getting labs...started have some issues and went in for labs and found my levels were above the range and doc thinks this could very well be the source of issues!

[powerlifterty16]

Makes absolutely no sense!

of course it makes sense. it may be incorrect, but you obviously knoww hat im saying.

why bother taking dhea/preg if your balls are still producing it? I don't even understand why people here take it anyway. i have low t but my dhea was pretty good.

[dreadnok89]

Hcg isn't for cosmetic reasons alone! My t gets boasted close to 400 points on it!

[kelkel]

Preg is a lot if mental hormones correct?
How bad does it convert to e2? DHEA?
If it converts would you still take DHEA?

Research suggests the Preg is good for the mental clarity, anxiousness, memory etc...Seems like it effects the CNS and brain functions.

What is a standard protocol? 15-30mg daily is what I've read. Interesting for sure. I want this checked at my next BW

The industry's top doc's recommend supplementing with them as they decline with age and are impacted by hormone replacement. And like MArz said, BW should dictate anything you do here. Dosing can be from 25-50mg and for best absorption a sustained release micronized product should be considered. They are best taken in the morning as they can have a mild stimulant effect.

Re-E2, yes, it can be elevated with their use which is why routine BW is so advantageous to good health. Check your DHEA-s. Don't really bother testing preg as it transforms into what it senses your body needs downstream in your cholesterol pathways and is stored mostly in tissue.

[kelkel]

of course it makes sense. it may be incorrect, but you obviously knoww hat im saying.

why bother taking dhea/preg if your balls are still producing it? I don't even understand why people here take it anyway. i have low t but my dhea was pretty good.

You answered your own question. BW dictates what you should or should not do.

[LowT Mike]

get labs...treat what is suboptimal. If DHEA is low then it should be addressed regardless of wheather or not you are on TRT and HCG .