Loosing motivation to train on TRT?

[maelpj]

I kept reading everywhere that testosterone would make one feel addicted to the gym/pumped up about lifting weigths and hornier..

Here is the thing.. I started TRT because of low T level+ depression, low energy, anxiety, low libido and low self esteem. TRT aka testosterone made me feel a lot more calm, happy, more energic and sleep better.. The things is it didn't improved libido, actually lowered it even more and it lowered my desire do get big/lift too.. I still do it, but I'm not as pationate as I used to be about it..

Before, Bodybuilding was all I was thinking about, always feeling small and wanted to get big and strong, always reading about BB, watching video, etc. It was pretty much a 24/7 obsession. I've been on TRT for now 7 month, and actually lost some strenght from that lack of motivation. BTW, estrogen is in check.

I tried to get off TRT, after 7 day ( I usually shot every 3.5 day), I started to feel like my old self again.. Tired, depressed, anxious and insecure BUT, I was gradually starting to give a f*** about lifting weights again, calling my training partner back, looking at some BB video and started obessing about it again.. And libido started to get a LIL bit better..

Could testosterone make on happy and satistied, thus loosing the drive to improve is body as much? I just shot test 2 days ago and that feeling of calmness and satisfation is back again.. I'm not experiencing that agression/libido/drive that everybody talks about..

[jomamma007]

Well this probably wont help, but after getting on testosterone I wasn't so insecure about my body and realized I didn't need to be Phil Heath to get woman so I've toned the weights down a lot as well. The test boosted my confidence so I didn't feel I needed to be buff and shredded to get through life. I still want to so I still train but not as motivated as pre trt.

[maelpj]

That sound exactly like me bro but in a way, it kinda suck to lose that passion.. But what about you libido?

[kelkel]

I'd suggest blood work to check your levels. E2 in particular.

And what is your complete protocol?

[maelpj]

E2 have been tested at 10 (oviously too low), let it crawl back up at 40, so I know by symptoms how I feel with low E and High E.. and neither give me good libido and desire to get huge.. I could understand for the increased self confidence= less obsseded about getting huge, but still don't get the lesser libido on test.. it's like I care even less about woman, I'm just too content/satisfayed..

[Beethoven]

^^^^^ what Kel said. Trt definitely gets me more motivated to train. Good luck.

[powerlifterty16]

havee u gotten bw recently? post

[jay adams]

I was dealing with the same feelings. In my case I believe it was just circumstances surrounding me and diet. I've been training about 7 months strait this round and I just got a little burned out. A good friend passed away and I drank too much beer and ate like shit.

That lasted about two weeks and I thought fuc$ this and cleaned my diet back up and forced myself for the first week to hit the gym. Everything is back on track now. I must say the food I was putting in my body was wreaking havoc on my energy. Diet, diet, diet! Train, train , train!

Should be getting blood results back today " I'm still dialing in ".

Good luck with this.

[dreadnok89]

What is this desire to get huge nonsense? Christ man, this why it never gets any credibility. You finally feel calm laidback and happy and not worried about getting "huge" and when you get off you get depressed and need to get "huge". Your insecure. That's it. No more no less.

In a sense trt worked because it made you feel better but not in the ways you thought it should or would. Sorry for the rant but try isn't for getting "huge" same with powerlifty. Your insecureness is driving you batty!

[Brett N]

TRT hasn't given me the desire to get huge at all. I feel that I had the desire to better myself and that is why I looked for TRT and found it. It has helped with a lot of my issues but I still wasn't feeling great. Talked to kelkel and my doctor with LowT and decided to lower my dose of AI because my E was a little too low.

After only a week, I already feel better. I exercise because I have the desire to be the best me I can be. This does not mean big to me. This means fit. I also am eating 10x better than I used to. I have found that the more I improve myself, the more desire I have for my wife. Maybe it is because my libido has increased or maybe it is because I just like myself more.

Feel good and do what makes you feel good. It can be anything. Come up with a short term goal that you desire to achieve and just go for it. What do you have to lose? Then, make up another goal. It doesn't have to be fitness related. Shoot for a promotion at work, go for some evening class to improve your education, learn how to play guitar, strive to make your wife smile everyday. It could be any of that.

Once you get dialed in, which I would say you are not just by the symptoms. Enjoy yourself and surround yoursel;f with others who enjoy themselves. The shit is contagious.

[xcraider37]

What is this desire to get huge nonsense? Christ man, this why it never gets any credibility. You finally feel calm laidback and happy and not worried about getting "huge" and when you get off you get depressed and need to get "huge". Your insecure. That's it. No more no less.

In a sense trt worked because it made you feel better but not in the ways you thought it should or would. Sorry for the rant but try isn't for getting "huge" same with powerlifty. Your insecureness is driving you batty!

^^^^^^Wow, well said.

[powerlifterty16]

What is this desire to get huge nonsense? Christ man, this why it never gets any credibility. You finally feel calm laidback and happy and not worried about getting "huge" and when you get off you get depressed and need to get "huge". Your insecure. That's it. No more no less.

In a sense trt worked because it made you feel better but not in the ways you thought it should or would. Sorry for the rant but try isn't for getting "huge" same with powerlifty. Your insecureness is driving you batty!

why me? when do i mention gettin huge? lol i usually say opposite of that rofl
i can understand what the op is going through though. He is just saying he doesnt have as much motivation to improve his fitness, and get the body he once wanted. besides dread you always talk about your lifting so dont call op out man

[dreadnok89]

why me? when do i mention gettin huge? lol i usually say opposite of that rofl
i can understand what the op is going through though. He is just saying he doesnt have as much motivation to improve his fitness, and get the body he once wanted. besides dread you always talk about your lifting so dont call op out man

I do no such thing sir. All I ever stated was I was still able to do some things heavy while having low T. I'm just going by what your writing. It sounds like confidence more than low T powerlifty. Hrt isn't for getting huge. People quickly realize taking 100 to 200 mg of isn't all its hyped up to be. It keeps you in normal ranges. Your not gonna turn into lattimare from the movie the program with that amount. Hrt is for quality of life that's it. I will never go back to low no matter the cost.and I'm not being rude powerlifterty. I just think your problems you feel are a totally different beast in general.

[powerlifterty16]

i dont understand where this is coming from i rarely talk about lifting. i want hrt for other symptoms of low t dread..i dont see how i was brought into this. Im already quite big and strong, although yes, one of my symptoms is that it takes me longer to get big and strong, and i think ive plateaued on what i can do with low t, but that's not the main reason i want to get my t higher!

[dreadnok89]

i dont understand where this is coming from i rarely talk about lifting. i want hrt for other symptoms of low t dread..i dont see how i was brought into this. Im already quite big and strong, although yes, one of my symptoms is that it takes me longer to get big and strong, and i think ive plateaued on what i can do with low t, but that's not the main reason i want to get my t higher!

Its nothing wrong or bad at all bud. Just by what you wrote in every topic you started or commented and saying you where this guy is coming from. I just believe your problems aren't t related. When you can't get out of bed or napping 5 times a day and gain 50 pounds of fat for 0 reason and your body aches for 0 reason and your erections are as bad as a 70 year old when your 34 is more of a serious reason for hrt then getting "huge". 900 test isn't going to get you huge unless your meant to be huge

[kelkel]

What is this desire to get huge nonsense? Christ man, this why it never gets any credibility. You finally feel calm laidback and happy and not worried about getting "huge" and when you get off you get depressed and need to get "huge". Your insecure. That's it. No more no less.

In a sense trt worked because it made you feel better but not in the ways you thought it should or would. Sorry for the rant but try isn't for getting "huge" same with powerlifty. Your insecureness is driving you batty!

dread I gotta disagree with you here. There's nothing wrong with trying to build more muscle. Bodybuilding is a sport like any other that requires total dedication. Physically, mentally, nutritionally and yes, scientifically at times. Wanting to be larger does not always equate to being insecure. With some people, sure it does, but your generalization bothers me. It's like saying that any athlete that want's to improve in his or her chosen sport is insecure. Think about that.

[kelkel]

TRT hasn't given me the desire to get huge at all. I feel that I had the desire to better myself and that is why I looked for TRT and found it. It has helped with a lot of my issues but I still wasn't feeling great. Talked to kelkel and my doctor with LowT and decided to lower my dose of AI because my E was a little too low.

After only a week, I already feel better. I exercise because I have the desire to be the best me I can be. This does not mean big to me. This means fit. I also am eating 10x better than I used to. I have found that the more I improve myself, the more desire I have for my wife. Maybe it is because my libido has increased or maybe it is because I just like myself more.

Feel good and do what makes you feel good. It can be anything. Come up with a short term goal that you desire to achieve and just go for it. What do you have to lose? Then, make up another goal. It doesn't have to be fitness related. Shoot for a promotion at work, go for some evening class to improve your education, learn how to play guitar, strive to make your wife smile everyday. It could be any of that.

Once you get dialed in, which I would say you are not just by the symptoms. Enjoy yourself and surround yoursel;f with others who enjoy themselves. The shit is contagious.

Great stuff Brett.

[powerlifterty16]

Its nothing wrong or bad at all bud. Just by what you wrote in every topic you started or commented and saying you where this guy is coming from. I just believe your problems aren't t related. When you can't get out of bed or napping 5 times a day and gain 50 pounds of fat for 0 reason and your body aches for 0 reason and your erections are as bad as a 70 year old when your 34 is more of a serious reason for hrt then getting "huge". 900 test isn't going to get you huge unless your meant to be huge

well ill have to disagree with you. i feel that you have talked about lifting just as much as i have. You also said your libido was better when you were off androgel , so it seems you are on androgel for some other reaosn. you also said that you nap just as much now as before androgel, so if low t is not someone's problem i'd assume that to be true of you imo.

i sleep until 1pm, then get tired around 8pm and need a nap. I have trouble concentrating, have memory issues, im not assertive enough most days, joints hurt, i get sick easily, get headaches, i have a lot of symptoms. if i were looking at hrt to get me huge, i would have done steroids . ive been fighting low t with powerlifting for 9-10 years naturally watching myself get weaker before iget stronger.

[dreadnok89]

I know what I said. And it isn't much. And I don't mind the lower libido, at least I feel awake and alive. And I also stated me taking a nap before the gym is because I do a physical job, I don't work in an office. . My libido was never an issue. Feeling weak 24/7,Crippling anxiety and excessive weight gain and constant slugishness and body aches were the reason I went on hrt. Being huge and putting muscle on isn't really a deterrent to go on lifetime hrt. If your worried about being big you have insecurity problems, everyone has insecurity problems in life they have to get over that no drug can help!

[kelkel]

I know what I said. And it isn't much. And I don't mind the lower libido, at least I feel awake and alive. And I also stated me taking a nap before the gym is because I do a physical job, I don't work in an office. . My libido was never an issue. Feeling weak 24/7,Crippling anxiety and excessive weight gain and constant slugishness and body aches were the reason I went on hrt. Being huge and putting muscle on isn't really a deterrent to go on lifetime hrt. If your worried about being big you have insecurity problems, everyone has insecurity problems in life they have to get over that no drug can help!

True.

[maelpj]

Would like to get more feed back.. it goes depeer than the lack of motivation to train..

I realised that before TRT, despite been often tired and having a low libido/self esteem, i was actually FEELING things a lot more..

Since have been on TRT, i've been on a constant feeling of intense apathy.. before trt, despite feeling like shit , I truly had the desire to change my life, it was making me angry.. now, I still feel like shit, but it's like I lost all hope and I have even less drive.

I not only lost interest in bodybuilding, which was pre TRT a true passion for me, but i lost my other interest too in fighting(mma), guns/action video games, women( i used to want a girlfriend badly, now I just dgaf..).. heck, ven my libido was better.. I use to want to be a cops.. now i just want a lazy desk job cause I'm so fuking tired all the time.. I use to be annoyed by parents and wanted to live alone, it was another motivation to finish school for me.. now i couldn't care less..

pre TRT, pre workout/caffeine were amped me up/ giving me a nice boost of energy and motivation.. now they make me want to sleep..

libido booster were working, now they don't..

I seriously don't know what the fuk I did too me. It's been now 9 day since my last injection, hope I can go back to how I was before.. despite feeling bad, I still felt better than now..

[Brett N]

Sounds to me like you need bloodwork done. Something is off. I had similar feelings when my estrogen was too low. If this is a continuing concern for you, it seems like it isn't a passing phase. Talk to your doc, get some blood work and make an adjustment.

[PJS19]

I feel the same exact way. Not on TRT but have low estrogen, so maybe you should check that. Are you taking an AI? Im on clomid now hopefylly it boosts by e2. Could be low e2 man.

[jomamma007]

Would like to get more feed back.. it goes depeer than the lack of motivation to train..

I realised that before TRT, despite been often tired and having a low libido/self esteem, i was actually FEELING things a lot more..

Since have been on TRT, i've been on a constant feeling of intense apathy.. before trt, despite feeling like shit , I truly had the desire to change my life, it was making me angry.. now, I still feel like shit, but it's like I lost all hope and I have even less drive.



I not only lost interest in bodybuilding, which was pre TRT a true passion for me, but i lost my other interest too in fighting(mma), guns/action video games, women( i used to want a girlfriend badly, now I just dgaf..).. heck, ven my libido was better.. I use to want to be a cops.. now i just want a lazy desk job cause I'm so fuking tired all the time.. I use to be annoyed by parents and wanted to live alone, it was another motivation to finish school for me.. now i couldn't care less..

pre TRT, pre workout/caffeine were amped me up/ giving me a nice boost of energy and motivation.. now they make me want to sleep..

libido booster were working, now they don't..

I seriously don't know what the fuk I did too me. It's been now 9 day since my last injection, hope I can go back to how I was before.. despite feeling bad, I still felt better than now..

Definitely sounds like your Estrogen is too low. Most of us feel this way when E gets too low. Personally when I crash my E I just don't seem to care about anything. It's like I can watch myself mess up my life and not care, but when I got my E up everything changed. Get some extensive blood work!
Seriously I would drink 2 monsters and then take a nap when my E was low. And libido would be crap not only because of the low E but the depression that the low E brings. The fatigue you speak of is also a symptom.

[maelpj]

I've got a theory.. I think depression was the rooth of my problems before TRT, not low test... But it was just a slight depression.

I think that high testosterone levels doesn't always cure depression. I had level of test up in the 1800 at times, crashed my estro to let it creep back up and find a sweet spot, never found it till e2 raise to 100.. never morning wood, nothing.. I must had a severe lack of dopamine/norepinephrine/ whatever cause before TRT wellbutrin of l-dopa were REALLY helping me..

I think the TRT worsen the symptom because I didn't use HCG = htpa shutdown= low pregonoloe/DHEA.. I read it can possibly affect mood.. thus, test didn't help me and the htpa shutdown just made things even worse..

Could it be it? Anyway, I'm 9 day into my TRT "pct" (I don't take nothing but mucuna pruriens and multivitamins), I don't feel better, but not worse either..

[APIs]

OP states he feels better on TRT. IMO, I'd just be thankful for that one benefit alone & run with it. TRT is not a magic bullet for everyone. Perhaps your protocol requires some fine tuning, as others have suggested? Don't worry about the gym aspect of it either. That will come around if it's meant to be. Reality is you need to love weight training in order to make the meaningful improvements you seek. If you don't, then so what? The majority of men on TRT have not touched a weight in their lives anyway. Weight training is not a prerequisite for TRT...

[maelpj]

OP states he feels better on TRT. IMO, I'd just be thankful for that one benefit alone & run with it. TRT is not a magic bullet for everyone. Perhaps your protocol requires some fine tuning, as others have suggested? Don't worry about the gym aspect of it either. That will come around if it's meant to be. Reality is you need to love weight training in order to make the meaningful improvements you seek. If you don't, then so what? The majority of men on TRT have not touched a weight in their lives anyway. Weight training is not a prerequisite for TRT...

The OP is feel, and it doesn't feel better on TRT. And the OP LOVED to lift weight pre TRT, it was his passion.

I think i just have a lack in dopamine, will try to cure that shit with L-Dopa, High protein Diet, Mentally challenging video game, math solving etc.

[APIs]

TRT aka testosterone made me feel a lot more calm, happy, more energic and sleep better.

OP is forgetting what was originally posted lol...