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    HCG and Pregnenolone//nolva and lipid

    Ive been reading the stickies about pregnenolone and HCG and I had some pratical question.

    As far as I understood the stickies, HCG help producing pregnenolone, which help produce DHEA.
    While producing pregnenolone we use cholesterol.

    So HCG affect positivly the lipid panel??

    If we take HCG, and our pregnenolone level are low. do we increase HCG or suplement with pregnenolone??

    same with DHEA, do we increase HCG(that will increase pregne, that will increase DHEA) or we supplement with DHEA??

    So these number needs to be dialed in with E2 and test. right?

    I've also heard that taking some tamoxifen from times to times can help reduce LDL and raise HDL...
    I will reasesrch a bit more about it today.

    So would ,in a TRT protocol, include like 20mg nolva twice a week , could be beneficial??

    Thanks

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    well hCG has one main purpose for TRT, is to keep your testicles healthy by emulating LH, and the other benefits are just good sides, but I don't think you can raise hCG to go after the other benefits because it becomes counterproductive, if too much is taken you'll become desensitized to it and your body will start rejecting it or not react to it. this is why its recommended not to exceed 1500iu per week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bass View Post
    well hCG has one main purpose for TRT, is to keep your testicles healthy by emulating LH, and the other benefits are just good sides, but I don't think you can raise hCG to go after the other benefits because it becomes counterproductive, if too much is taken you'll become desensitized to it and your body will start rejecting it or not react to it. this is why its recommended not to exceed 1500iu per week.
    Agree. And 1,500 is even high.

    Yes, Nolva can help with lipids but you'd have to maintain serum levels for a period of time for that to happen. Nolva doesn't work quickly like Adex does. Infrequent dosing will not do it. If your interested in natural ways to combat cholesterol look into NAC, Red Yeast Rice and Slo-Niacin.

    Couple interesting articles.

    Effect of tamoxifen on lipids and lipid met... [Mol Cell Biochem. 1997] - PubMed - NCBI

    Tamoxifen as an antioxidant and cardioprote... [Biochem Soc Symp. 1995] - PubMed - NCBI


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    No, don't use hcg to adjust pregnenalone levels. Sup with MSM pregnenalone.

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