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    Should I get bw? possible symptoms

    28 years old, no aas history, no injuries to speak of.

    I feel like I have some of the symptoms associated with low t . interest in sex is pretty low, honestly always has been even in my teenage years. I have no performance issues, I just never have the desire.

    Been lifting for almost two years, had some great newbie gains but ever since i haven't seen any at all.

    Very tired all the time. I can wake up from 8 hours of sleep (even good sleep) and be exhausted. Lasts all day.

    Body fat is slowly increasing, even with a fairly strict diet.

    General feeling is just not very good. Wouldn't say I've felt depressed at all, but I'm just not generally happy.

    Do these sound like symptoms? Should I go get tested?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawk14dl View Post
    28 years old, no aas history, no injuries to speak of.

    I feel like I have some of the symptoms associated with low t . interest in sex is pretty low, honestly always has been even in my teenage years. I have no performance issues, I just never have the desire.

    Been lifting for almost two years, had some great newbie gains but ever since i haven't seen any at all.

    Very tired all the time. I can wake up from 8 hours of sleep (even good sleep) and be exhausted. Lasts all day.

    Body fat is slowly increasing, even with a fairly strict diet.

    General feeling is just not very good. Wouldn't say I've felt depressed at all, but I'm just not generally happy.

    Do these sound like symptoms? Should I go get tested?
    It seems to me that you describe some of the classic symptoms of low T. But you'll never know until you get blood work done and I honestly think you knew the answer to your question before you asked it. I'm happy to provide you with affirmation. ;-)

    Meanwhile, I'd suggest you do something that I do everyday to help alleviate the symptoms you describe and make life a lot more interesting. You might call it my Rx, if you like:

    Write a complete sentence every day about something in the world you liked (Don't write about yourself!). It could be something as simple as a smile you saw someone give or something someone said, or a beautiful thing you saw, heard, tasted, smelled..... Actually I think it best if you wrote three sentences a day to start off. Put it in your journal. Let us know how it worked!

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    You need complete BW. Be sure to include a full thyroid panel and iron panel. Otherwise, you're just guessing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    You need complete BW. Be sure to include a full thyroid panel and iron panel. Otherwise, you're just guessing.
    Kel,
    Just curious. I need to know more about how all these things are connected in diagnosing low T: Can you explain the importance of finding out about the thyroid and iron? Thanks.

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    Yes, lol I suppose I did just need affirmation.

    Just wasn't sure with my age if it was uncommon.

    Should I go through a lab and order my own?or shouldi just go ahead and schedule an appointment with a T specialist?

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    Or should I visit my regular dr?

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    Basically if you're going to get BW for the symptoms mentioned you need to cover as many bases as possible so you can see the entire picture, not just a part of it. Thyroid issues can cause hypogonadism as you know along with many, many other issues that effect metabolism. Poor thyroid function can also cause fatigue which the op mentions.

    When it comes to iron my thoughts went to anemia which causes fatigue. If iron suddenly drops for no logical reason, then a person should probably be scoped to rule out internal issues. A good doc will order the scope at this point.

    The above is just part of why full BW need to be pulled, imho. Maybe there's an underlying issue and BW will reveal it for us. Maybe just lifestyle, who knows without it being pulled.

    Simple things can cause issues. An example could be OTC Prilosec or its generic equivalent. Consistent use of it can crush iron levels and people never relate the two.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Basically if you're going to get BW for the symptoms mentioned you need to cover as many bases as possible so you can see the entire picture, not just a part of it. Thyroid issues can cause hypogonadism as you know along with many, many other issues that effect metabolism. Poor thyroid function can also cause fatigue which the op mentions.

    When it comes to iron my thoughts went to anemia which causes fatigue. If iron suddenly drops for no logical reason, then a person should probably be scoped to rule out internal issues. A good doc will order the scope at this point.

    The above is just part of why full BW need to be pulled, imho. Maybe there's an underlying issue and BW will reveal it for us. Maybe just lifestyle, who knows without it being pulled.

    Simple things can cause issues. An example could be OTC Prilosec or its generic equivalent. Consistent use of it can crush iron levels and people never relate the two.
    Thanks, Kel. Just took a look at the blood work sticky too.

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    Agree with kel. Symptoms for hypogonadism and hypothyroidism are almost identical. Cognitive decline, malaise/depression, energy sucks, body composition goes to hell. Seems like we only want to attribute these symptoms to low T, but as kelkel explained, these symptoms can stem from a variety of things.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BallSak View Post
    Agree with kel. Symptoms for hypogonadism and hypothyroidism are almost identical. Cognitive decline, malaise/depression, energy sucks, body composition goes to hell. Seems like we only want to attribute these symptoms to low T, but as kelkel explained, these symptoms can stem from a variety of things.
    Thank you for the explanation.

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    Sorry. Double post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Basically if you're going to get BW for the symptoms mentioned you need to cover as many bases as possible so you can see the entire picture, not just a part of it. Thyroid issues can cause hypogonadism as you know along with many, many other issues that effect metabolism. Poor thyroid function can also cause fatigue which the op mentions.

    When it comes to iron my thoughts went to anemia which causes fatigue. If iron suddenly drops for no logical reason, then a person should probably be scoped to rule out internal issues. A good doc will order the scope at this point.

    The above is just part of why full BW need to be pulled, imho. Maybe there's an underlying issue and BW will reveal it for us. Maybe just lifestyle, who knows without it being pulled.

    Simple things can cause issues. An example could be OTC Prilosec or its generic equivalent. Consistent use of it can crush iron levels and people never relate the two.
    Great post. When I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism, I had every symptom you posted. Definitely make an appt. with your dr, tell him your symptoms and request thyroid and iron if he doesn't include it. Good luck.

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    So nobody replied earlier, should I go to my dr?
    Or an endo? Or a low t clinic? (Low t.com has a clinic about2 hours away)

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    Quote Originally Posted by hawk14dl
    So nobody replied earlier, should I go to my dr? Or an endo? Or a low t clinic? (Low t.com has a clinic about2 hours away)
    Title dosent matter bro! Just make sure he knows hormones!
    Someone that can help you right away! Not many Docs know their stuff!

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