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    kelkel, i made my own thread

    Whenever you feel up to it would you mind explaining to me what we talked about yesterday in the other thread? thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnk271 View Post
    Whenever you feel up to it would you mind explaining to me what we talked about yesterday in the other thread? thank you!
    john paste it over here so we have some reference please.
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    Im 21, and have been on TRT since October and I would never go back. Ive never felt this good in my life and I honestly believe that I had low T my whole life. Was always active and ate healthier than my friends, but was very overweight with moobs.

    I got tested last August when I was 20 and my levels were low 400s, 10 free test(scale 9-25), felt HORRIBLE, borderline depressed and couldnt get a boner to save my life. Now I feel great, loving life, and sex coundnt be any better!

    Yes sometimes I think about the long term use because Ill be on the rest of my life, but I dont drink or smoke(hard to believe when im 21 but trust me, Im 100% against both, didnt even drink on my 21st bday...), I eat extremely healthy, I take my necessary vitimans, liver sups etc, and i exercise 6 days a week.

    Like someone above me said, Id rather live a full, healthy life til im 70 feeling good all the way than live to 80-90 but be a fat miserable slob my whole life....

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    Austinite, don't take it the wrong way, but Im not weak minded. my whole life I have been very active whether I was playing soccer,racing motocross or bmx growing up, yet I still weighed 202 when i was 13 years old at 5 feet 1 inch tall...never ate more than all my skinny friends either...even they realize that.

    Started training when I was 14 and have been consistent,sometimes obsessive with training ever since. I love it. I love running too. I look forward to training.

    Then theres diet. The first few years i started training my diet wasnt awesome but it has gotten better and better to the point where i have been gluten and dairy free for almost 3 years, not because its a fad, but because i truly believe its better for u not to eat that crap. i break out with acne and feel like crap when i do eat it. I also have not had a soda since I was 14 years old.

    Over the last few years I have given everything I had to lose weight, counting calories, going to bed hungry, high protein/low carb and vice versa. The best Ive ever been was 175llb at 5 foot 9inches but was just skinny fat and felt weak and soft.

    Now 4 months into trt Im stronger than ive ever been, feel the best I ever have, have more muscle than ever tbefore, eat more than i ever have before (still "clean") yet Im leaner than ive been in my life.

    I truly believe that low t is what kept me from ever truly leaning out the way a young male should. I probably shouldnt have said "fat miserable slob"... bad choice of wording on my part.

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    kelkel, still dont know. Is it possible thats the way i was born? i mean i got gyno in puberty and was never a "raging horny teenager"...

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    John, gyno in puberty happens to many guys. Some grow out of it, some don't. When it comes to 21yrs old and TRT my questions are:

    1. Any BW you can post from just before TRT?
    2. What did the doc diagnose as the cause for your low T? Or was it simply your T is low, let's replace it without finding the causative factor?
    3. Was an MRI obtained to rule out pathologies? Varicoceles?
    4. Any testical injuries or head trauma as a child or growing up?

    What are your current Total and Free T numbers look like on 200mg per week?
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    1. i just moved recently so digging up my bloodwork would be really hard to do right now unfortunately
    2. no cause, maybe the way i was born?
    3. no unfortunately not but when funds are available i might push a doc to run more tests
    4. possibly, i raced motocross and bmx from age 4-18 and have had many many crashes. Head injuries(all minor enough that i didnt go to hospital or urgent care) and blows to the balls that have made me throw up.

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    My total T after my 6 week blood work was 900something and i didnt ask for free T because honestly it slipped my mind. From now on I am going to ask for a printed copy of all my blood work

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnk271 View Post
    1. i just moved recently so digging up my bloodwork would be really hard to do right now unfortunately
    Dig it up when you can
    2. no cause, maybe the way i was born?
    You're not just born with it. You can be born with an issue causing it.
    3. no unfortunately not but when funds are available i might push a doc to run more tests
    You should. TRT is a great thing but it's even greater to be normal, especially at your age.
    4. possibly, i raced motocross and bmx from age 4-18 and have had many many crashes. Head injuries(all minor enough that i didnt go to hospital or urgent care) and blows to the balls that have made me throw up.
    It could play into it.

    Low T is caused by so many things and most doc's are simply not trained in hormones.
    Which leads to the testosterone Band Aid instead of finding the issue.
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    I also rode BMX (dirt jumping) growing up and still ride dirt bikes (all my life) and had many injuries to the head and my boys. I assume this was my reason for low T at an early age as my Dr. could not determine the cause.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel
    It could play into it. Low T is caused by so many things and most doc's are simply not trained in hormones. Which leads to the testosterone Band Aid instead of finding the issue.
    I agree. Id love to be normal, but at the same time I feel better now than I have in my entire life, I know this may sound wrong to some, but I honestly don't think Id want to go back now....

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