how to cruise and blast

[caira1074]

just curious what would be the best and healthiest way to cruise and blast throughout the year. What would the max amount be and for how long. Do you still do twice a week injections and keep using your hcg . how much more ai would you use. Just want to do it right and safely, thanks guys for any info

[kelkel]

Have you ever cycled before caira?

[caira1074]

no I have only took test cyp

[GSXRvi6]

This is what I do - note, I am a beginner, so this doesn't mean it's correct, I'll be curious to see what the veterans chime in with.

I create a spreadsheet and inventory all of my drugs to make sure I have enough first, I always have extra AI, if you lose some of it your screwed if you can't get more quick.

Long esters inject twice per week
Short esters inject every day
HCG 2X per week SQ (I mix IM when on TRT)
AI every day or EOD depending on choice
SERM ED until first blood work
Take liver support while on
Drop all alcohol and caffine
Take LOTS of B5, zinc, and Vitamin A, wash my face at least twice per day
Start a log, monitor blood pressure, pulse starting week 1, soon as I see my average BP tick up I donate blood (going to start self bleeding soon)
I take Saw Pal and Cialis ED for my prostate, mine tends to swell a bit on cycle but not bad, cialis keeps the problems completely at bay
Run full bloods around 5 to 6 weeks in and make sure everything is on track, this will also show me how effective my donation was on my iron and RBC, if everything looks good I drop the SERM (Nolva)
After last big pin I run the AI for 14 to 16 days (cyp ester), I watch skin dryness and joint pain as an indicator to stop AI early or reduce dose if needed.
then I'm back to normal, that's it.

I keep extra Nolva, Aromasin , and Letro on hand for "emergencies"

[bringndaheat]

^^^^is this your protocol while on a blast. Not sure why a lot of tht is needed on TRT. You simply increase and decrease dosage . I slight increase in AI depending on E2. Are you blasting wth just test or other compounds. Need a lot more information. Would love to hear Kel chime in again.

- Heat

[Caribeman]

Up the dose, lower it 2 weeks before doc visit. And for GSXRvi6, "Self bleeding".... that's FN creepy

[kelkel]

BDH is on point. If you're simply upping your test dose the only other thing you need to do is up your AI. If you're adding 19 Nor's (deca /tren ) then you may need prolactin antagonists as well if estrogen control is an issue. Emphasis on "if."

Regarding GSX's protocol, I'll only mention a couple things:

Short esters can be EOD
Serms on cycle. Great idea if gyno sensitive and ceasing after BW is perfect. Personally I run nolva with my AI all the time.
Always a good idea to donate blood before you start a cycle and again during. It simply helps most people.
Look into Arginine for help with your BP.
Phase down your AI dosage those last couple weeks. Better a bit high than low.

[GSXRvi6]

^^^^is this your protocol while on a blast. Not sure why a lot of tht is needed on TRT. You simply increase and decrease dosage . I slight increase in AI depending on E2. Are you blasting wth just test or other compounds. Need a lot more information. Would love to hear Kel chime in again.

- Heat

A very generalization of it yes, it's not a cycle per say, just an example of part of what changes. I do not run AI on TRT so I only add it on blast.

BDH is on point. If you're simply upping your test dose the only other thing you need to do is up your AI. If you're adding 19 Nor's (deca /tren ) then you may need prolactin antagonists as well if estrogen control is an issue. Emphasis on "if."

Regarding GSX's protocol, I'll only mention a couple things:

Short esters can be EOD
Serms on cycle. Great idea if gyno sensitive and ceasing after BW is perfect. Personally I run nolva with my AI all the time.
Always a good idea to donate blood before you start a cycle and again during. It simply helps most people.
Look into Arginine for help with your BP.
Phase down your AI dosage those last couple weeks. Better a bit high than low.

I have been doing short esters ED, I prefer it due to injecting 1/2 the volume of EOD, I inject in my outer quad at the top and rotate left to right and work my way down my leg then start again at the top (hard to explain).

I do add PA's with 19-nor but was just giving a general example, not necessarily a cycle example.

I'll taper off my AI next time, good idea.

Up the dose, lower it 2 weeks before doc visit. And for GSXRvi6, "Self bleeding".... that's FN creepy

Two weeks may not be enough, also, I only run 8 - 12 weeks at elevated dosages.

I have access to a phlabotomist that is going to teach me how to do it, I don't see that it's really all that creepy compared to what I do anyway, and if I have the ability to control my RBC and Iron a lot easier I can do this stuff safer. Even slight increases in blood pressure over time are not good for your organs, thick blood brings on a host of problems.

[caira1074]

im just on trt and looking for a simple cruise and blast. NOt going to use anything but my test cyp, hcg , and ai want to keep it simple maybe do it one or twice a year, just need a simple protocol to follow iam hoping kelkel can help me with this, I did notice in the sticky above that the vettester had simple cruise and blast protocol in the estriodol thearapeutic management that looks easy and simple although I would not use the deca though

[EZ E]

Just bump your test up to 500mg per week for 8-12 weeks and increase ai as needed. After the blast go back to your normal dose. I would stop the blast 4 weeks before you get blood work for your next Dr appointment.

[kelkel]

im just on trt and looking for a simple cruise and blast. NOt going to use anything but my test cyp, hcg, and ai want to keep it simple maybe do it one or twice a year, just need a simple protocol to follow iam hoping kelkel can help me with this, I did notice in the sticky above that the vettester had simple cruise and blast protocol in the estriodol thearapeutic management that looks easy and simple although I would not use the deca though

Just pm me when you have a question. Glad to help guys here.

Just bump your test up to 500mg per week for 8-12 weeks and increase ai as needed. After the blast go back to your normal dose. I would stop the blast 4 weeks before you get blood work for your next Dr appointment.

^^ Yep. Agree with 4 weeks. Everyone metabolizes at different rates so extra time should be factored in.