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    jomamma007 is offline Member
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    HCG beneficial in a restart?

    Getting mixed opinions on if hcg is needed during a restart.

    Personally I think since ideally you'd wait 2-3 weeks to start pct anyways you could run hcg in that time to wake up the leydig cells. I think most rush pct and start too soon after last injection, leading to all the failed pcts we here about.

    I'm thinking


    Week1-3
    2000iu HCG EoD for a total of 10 shots
    .5mg arimidex EoD alongside the hcg shots

    End Of week 3 Blood Work too see if the boys are responding from the hcg blast, if so will continue with Heard if T at least 500, continue restart

    Week 4-7
    Clomid 100mgs daily
    Nolva 40mgs daily
    Arimidex .5mg M/TH or .3mgs EoD

    Week 7 Blood work

    Week8-9
    Nolva 40mgs daily
    Arimidex .5mg M/TH or .3mgs EoD

    week9-11
    Arimidex .5mg M/TH or .3mgs EoD

    50mg dhea and pregnenolone daily throughout, 10k vitamin D3

    Week 11 Blood Work

    Some say that dose of hcg is too much while some say it's the shock they need. I have been on trt for a year , the last 6 months without hcg.

    The arimidex is included because last restart I didn't have any estrogen control and the higher dosage of hcg lead to too much estrogen resulting in a ridiculous SHBG. My total T wasn't that bad , 571 2 months after completion of this protocol, but my SHBG was 70(16.5-55.9 nmol/L) leaving me with almost no free test.

    I believe if I keep the estrogen controlled this time, my shbg will stay down and I'll be okay.
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    Isn't that what we pm'd about jo. Pretty much the Scally protocol with the addition of an AI?
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    BallSak is offline Associate Member
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    HCG makes sense to me. I would probably dose it every day though instead of eod.

    Arimidex dose seems a little excessive to me. But if you are doing bloodwork every few weeks then you will know for sure.

    Good luck! Will be interesting to see how it goes.
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    jomamma007 is offline Member
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel View Post
    Isn't that what we pm'd about jo. Pretty much the Scally protocol with the addition of an AI?
    Yes, believe you told me the hcg was unecessary and his restart is more for guys who`ve been on aas for years. Still i'd rather take more then not enough. I`ve already been on a year and think the hcg addition would be beneficial, whadya think?

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    Don't recall the context of the conversation. I think it's a solid plan and you'll be fine.
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