Grapefruit to lower Rbc hemoglobin and hematocrit. IT WORKS!!

[Moparman]

So my Rbc hemoglobin and hematocrit have been high ( over range) for 8 months. Actually since last June.

My Rbc has been up and down ranging from 5.65 to 6.1. Max range is 5.78
Hemoglobin from 17.8 to 18.1. Max range is 17.3
Hematocrit from 54.8 to 56.2. Max range is 50 or 54 depending on lab used.

Doc Wouldn't give me a blood draw. Said I was taking too much test so it wasn't medically necessary. Red Cross said I was too high to donate. Doc Said I should drop my test from current level. He wanted to see my test levels near 400. Lmao.

Last June my test dose was was at 200 mg/wk. I dropped it to 160mg per week in June then to 120 mg/wk in sept then to 100 mg/wk in January.

In January I was still high measuring hemoglobin at 17.8, hematocrit at 54.8, mcv at 97. Rbc was in range at 5.65.

I couldn't talk doc into the blood draw. My clinic can't write me a a rout that would be covered by insurance because they aren't my pcp or in network. I was just about to self bleed.

Started eating one grapefruit a day. Heard it could work. Left test at 100 mg/wk (2 doses at 50mg each)

Got my CBC back yesterdAy and the results are good (except for mcv).
Rbc measured 5.12, hemoglobin measured 16.2, hematocrit measured 50.3. Mcv is still at 98

So grapefruit works!!

[xcraider37]

So my Rbc hemoglobin and hematocrit have been high ( over range) for 8 months. Actually since last June.

My Rbc has been up and down ranging from 5.65 to 6.1. Max range is 5.78
Hemoglobin from 17.8 to 18.1. Max range is 17.3
Hematocrit from 54.8 to 56.2. Max range is 50 or 54 depending on lab used.

Doc Wouldn't give me a blood draw. Said I was taking too much test so it wasn't medically necessary. Red Cross said I was too high to donate. Doc Said I should drop my test from current level.

Last June my test dose was was at 200 mg/wk. I dropped it to 160mg per week in June then to 120 mg/wk in sept then to 100 mg/wk in January.

In January I was still high measuring hemoglobin at 17.8, hematocrit at 54.8, mcv at 97. Rbc was in range at 5.65

Started eating one grapefruit a day. Left test at 100 mg/wk (2 doses at 50mg each)

Got my CBC back yesterdAy and the results are good (except for mcv).
Rbc measured 5.12, hemoglobin measured 16.2, hematocrit measured 50.3. Mcv is still at 98

So grapefruit works!!

Giving too much credit to the grapefruit, your rbc's probably died off and lowering your test to 100 mg per week helped reduce the number more than the grapefruit. If you want to prove something worked you only change one variable at a time. Also hydration plays a huge role during bloodwork. JMHO.

[kelkel]

Gotta agree with XC. Only one variable can change to critically access something like this. Regardless, glad something worked! And your doc's isn't very nice to not help you with a therapeutic phlebotomy. If I asked my doc for something legitimate and healthy and he turned me down he'd be fired on the spot. My god, you're not asking for some prescription narcotic, just a blood draw. Ass.

[Moparman]

Once I get adobe back on my Puter I'll scan in my chart. I've been carting all my levels since I began. My Rbc hematocrit and hemoglobin were practically flat from 6-4-13 thru 1-31-14. They were flat as I changed test levels. They only dropped this past month

Could it be the life span of the Rbc?? Idk. But when I post the chart you'll see it sure looks like it points to the grapefruit

[Beethoven]

Gotta agree with XC. Only one variable can change to critically access something like this. Regardless, glad something worked! And your doc's isn't very nice to not help you with a therapeutic phlebotomy. If I asked my doc for something legitimate and healthy and he turned me down he'd be fired on the spot. My god, you're not asking for some prescription narcotic, just a blood draw. Ass.

^^^^^^^ Being one who had a similar issue had no problem getting a script for therapeutic phlebotomy. You're at risk for stroke and or heart attack running around that high. If that Doc started you at 200 mg per week, and then didn't monitor you close enough to let it get THAT high where you could have simply donated, the refused to script you a therapeutic, out he goes.

[Moparman]

Ok. I have a doc that is my pcp who is anti testosterone . And I have a doc at my clinic for hrt

Pcp wouldn't do the therapuetic plebotomy. Hrt doc said DO IT NOW. Problem was I couldn't convince pcp doc to write script so my insurance would cover it. Pcp doc wanted me to lower dose. Pcp doc wanted my levels in the 300-400 range.

My hrt dr could have written script but it wouldn't be covered by ins (cash deal-no ins accepted).

Problem w donating is I had hep A years ago. That means I can't donate so they say.

[Beethoven]

Ok. I have a doc that is my pcp who is anti testosterone . And I have a doc at my clinic for hrt

Pcp wouldn't do the therapuetic plebotomy. Hrt doc said DO IT NOW. Problem was I couldn't convince pcp doc to write script so my insurance would cover it. Pcp doc wanted me to lower dose. Pcp doc wanted my levels in the 300-400 range.

My hrt dr could have written script but it wouldn't be covered by ins (cash deal-no ins accepted).

Problem w donating is I had hep A years ago. That means I can't donate so they say.

I don't know where you live, the Red Cross did it for me free of charge. (One blood.org)

[Bonaparte]

RBCs live an average of 3 months. So it will take about that long for your lab values to reflect a change in test dose or other treatment.

[Moparman]

I just screen shot my levels. Take a look

[LT75]

Sorry to say this. But if the cost of a blood draw out weighs the chance of death, then you need to rethink your options.

[Moparman]

I was just barely over. The doc didn't seem too concerned. The top of the range was 54 and I was 54.9, 56.2 and 54.8. The day I measured 56.2 I recall not drinking any water after waking up before my morning blood test. So I doubt the risk was that high. If it was the doc would have done the draw

[Beethoven]

I was just barely over. The doc didn't seem too concerned. The top of the range was 54 and I was 54.9, 56.2 and 54.8. The day I measured 56.2 I recall not drinking any water after waking up before my morning blood test. So I doubt the risk was that high. If it was the doc would have done the draw

Mine was lower than that and mine almost flipped a wig. My first Doc immediately called when my labs came in and it was lower than that.