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    How do I raise my script?

    My doctor started me on 1/2 ML of testosterone cyp every 2 weeks. After 2 injections I convinced him over the phone to increase that to 1 ML every 2 weeks.

    Symptoms of fatigue and low libido are getting better.

    Can anyone advise me how to get an increase from where I'm at now? I don't want to state to him it's not working and risk losing the script.

    Haven't had any follow up BW yet, my doctor is basing my need on my symptoms rather than my numbers.

    I'm 36, 6' 1" and 200lbs. I work out everyday and am in the best shape of my life right now, just looking to achieve perfection.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Score
    My doctor started me on 1/2 ML of testosterone cyp every 2 weeks. After 2 injections I convinced him over the phone to increase that to 1 ML every 2 weeks. Symptoms of fatigue and low libido are getting better. Can anyone advise me how to get an increase from where I'm at now? I don't want to state to him it's not working and risk losing the script. Haven't had any follow up BW yet, my doctor is basing my need on my symptoms rather than my numbers. I'm 36, 6' 1" and 200lbs. I work out everyday and am in the best shape of my life right now, just looking to achieve perfection.
    Testosterone cyp 200 - sorry!

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    It's common knowledge that a once every two week protocol is a BAD protocol and it clearly shows your doctor doesn't know anything about TRT. This same story has been repeated dozens of times here so don't feel alone. Because of the half life of Test Cyp, you'll be going up and down like a roller coaster and feeling pretty crappy before your next shot. (And IMO 1/2 mL - 100mg every two weeks is ridiculous anyway.)

    I'm going to speak in mg's. Easier for everyone. If you want to change anything, instead of thinking about more Test, I'd suggest you think about more frequently. I'd advise that you suggest to your doctor you'd like to go to a 100mg/week protocol - split into two doses of 50mg every 3.5 days. It will make for more stable T levels. There are many dosing protocol options you can try but this is what a majority of men on this forum do, and it seems to work well for them. (Later on you can do some experimenting.) Try this for a month or so and then get blood work to see where you stand. You can always titrate up your dose later on, if necessary.

    A once or twice a week dosing protocol will make you feel MUCH better. Also lower, more frequent dosing seems to control estradiol better.

    I'd also suggest you read the "stickies" at the top of the page. It will help further your understanding of TRT and also in educating your doctor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Sox
    It's common knowledge that a once every two week protocol is a BAD protocol and it clearly shows your doctor doesn't know anything about TRT. This same story has been repeated dozens of times here so don't feel alone. Because of the half life of Test Cyp, you'll be going up and down like a roller coaster and feeling pretty crappy before your next shot. (And IMO 1/2 mL - 100mg every two weeks is ridiculous anyway.) I'm going to speak in mg's. Easier for everyone. If you want to change anything, instead of thinking about more Test, I'd suggest you think about more frequently. I'd advise that you suggest to your doctor you'd like to go to a 100mg/week protocol - split into two doses of 50mg every 3.5 days. It will make for more stable T levels. There are many dosing protocol options you can try but this is what a majority of men on this forum do, and it seems to work well for them. (Later on you can do some experimenting.) Try this for a month or so and then get blood work to see where you stand. You can always titrate up your dose later on, if necessary. A once or twice a week dosing protocol will make you feel MUCH better. Also lower, more frequent dosing seems to control estradiol better. I'd also suggest you read the "stickies" at the top of the page. It will help further your understanding of TRT and also in educating your doctor.
    I believe my doctor is worried about the injection frequency and scar tissue. I can switch this up as per your advice without his knowledge. Injecting 50mg seems like a tiny amount, I guess it's just that potent of stuff huh?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Score View Post
    I believe my doctor is worried about the injection frequency and scar tissue. I can switch this up as per your advice without his knowledge. Injecting 50mg seems like a tiny amount, I guess it's just that potent of stuff huh?
    I suggested 50mg, TWICE a week. ("Potency" may not be the best choice of words because men often react differently to different doses, frequencies and method of injection.) Many men are now injecting subcutaneously, using a very small gauge insulin needle - like 29gauge. Right into the fatty areas of you body - like the abdomen or love handles - painless and no scar tissue. I do this and like it very much. Makes for a more steady release of T into the body.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 2Sox
    I suggested 50mg, TWICE a week. ("Potency" may not be the best choice of words because men often react differently to different doses, frequencies and method of injection.) Many men are now injecting subcutaneously, using a very small gauge insulin needle - like 29gauge. Right into the fatty areas of you body - like the abdomen or love handles - painless and no scar tissue. I do this and like it very much. Makes for a more steady release of T into the body.
    I hear ya on twice a week, I started a new thread regarding this but think I figured out why mentally 50mg seems low, I have HUGE syringes. I need to get smaller ones.

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    Why not try subq, a lot easier and I believe less damage to the pinning area. Also slot smaller needle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ppwc1985 View Post
    Why not try subq, a lot easier and I believe less damage to the pinning area. Also slot smaller needle.
    My test level jumped higher on subq, E2 was a bit lower also. Arr is a great place to get syringes and needles. 2Sox is on the money.

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    You can get your syringes from the site sponsor actually. Great advice given by 2Sox, listen to it. Score, learn to inject in multiple locations and rotate them. Much easier that way. And as stated, many here really like SQ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel
    You can get your syringes from the site sponsor actually. Great advice given by 2Sox, listen to it. Score, learn to inject in multiple locations and rotate them. Much easier that way. And as stated, many here really like SQ.
    Thanks. I know syringe size and appearance of what's actually same quantities sounds dumb and is likely annoying to you vets, but as a newbie there's an adrenaline rush every time I inject and I'm riding that high in the weight room as long as I can!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Score View Post
    Thanks. I know syringe size and appearance of what's actually same quantities sounds dumb and is likely annoying to you vets, but as a newbie there's an adrenaline rush every time I inject and I'm riding that high in the weight room as long as I can!
    It's not annoying. We've been there. We were all new here once as well so no worries. But, what 2Sox recommended to you will help you more than you know. If you feel even better then everything else is better, right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kelkel
    It's not annoying. We've been there. We were all new here once as well so no worries. But, what 2Sox recommended to you will help you more than you know. If you feel even better then everything else is better, right?
    Correct!

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    Yep my levels stayed the same as with IM but painless. I hit fat anywhere I can, thighs, butt. Right above knee. It's made trt better for me.

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    You Definetly need 1ml syringes when dosing .25 ml twice a week. You can be much more percise

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    Quote Originally Posted by Machdiesel
    You Definetly need 1ml syringes when dosing .25 ml twice a week. You can be much more percise
    I was given a script for 3ml syringes and 1.5" needles... Yikes!

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    Do you live in the states, if so you can get them of amazon or ask frdave. He gave me a link and I but the ones he uses and they work perfect.

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    I told my doc straight out "it's not quite enough because its nnot lasting long enough and I burn out after about the 4th day. all though I was on .50mg per week, she raised it to .70mg per week. Just my experience

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